Re: [Full-disclosure] An idea of leaking alternative to wikileaks

2010-12-16 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:24:28PM +0100, Christian Sciberras wrote: Just because someone got busted and found a number of lunatics in providing mirrors doesn't mean there's a whole industry. If anything, there must be some when we reach billions of lunatics YOU will be called a lunatic :)

Re: [Full-disclosure] An idea of leaking alternative to wikileaks

2010-12-16 Thread Christian Sciberras
Ahh, where was my head?!! Replace lunatic with sheep. :) On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Georgi Guninski gunin...@guninski.comwrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:24:28PM +0100, Christian Sciberras wrote: Just because someone got busted and found a number of lunatics in providing

Re: [Full-disclosure] An idea of leaking alternative to wikileaks

2010-12-16 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:03:56PM +0100, Christian Sciberras wrote: Ahh, where was my head?!! Replace lunatic with sheep. :) itz all the same, only the namez will change: when we reach multi billions of sheepz YOU will be called an ``овца'' :) On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 6:56

Re: [Full-disclosure] An idea of leaking alternative to wikileaks

2010-12-16 Thread gold flake
I did understand the differences. The main issue is that dangerous material may be published anonymously without verification or indeed, any peer review. Keep in mind that you can easily set off people by telling them a UFO crashed in the centre of New York, and there are actually those that

[Full-disclosure] An idea of leaking alternative to wikileaks

2010-12-15 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
Hi all, i've been writing during past week a concept of leak management system with the following main differences with wikileaks: * Concentrate on leak amplification to let leaks reach media * No editing or publishing * Fully distributed organizations * Use best of existing

Re: [Full-disclosure] An idea of leaking alternative to wikileaks

2010-12-15 Thread Christian Sciberras
Nice recipe to easily end up in a ton of trouble and ridicule. My 2 cents... On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) li...@infosecurity.ch wrote: Hi all, i've been writing during past week a concept of leak management system with the following main differences

Re: [Full-disclosure] An idea of leaking alternative to wikileaks

2010-12-15 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
It's a matter of splitting up responsibility among various players and distributing almost everything. With the growing number of improvised leak sites and more to come in future, most doesn't even have a methodology/risk model or fully understand the level of risks they are taking. That's just

Re: [Full-disclosure] An idea of leaking alternative to wikileaks

2010-12-15 Thread Christian Sciberras
It's a matter of splitting up responsibility among various players and distributing almost everything. Leaking information is not a game, unlike some kids seem to think. With the growing number of improvised leak sites and more to come in future, most doesn't even have a methodology/risk

Re: [Full-disclosure] An idea of leaking alternative to wikileaks

2010-12-15 Thread Andriy Tereshchenko
Hi Fabio and others Full-Disclosure readers, Have you seen how WikiLeaks are editing already released cables? Seems like WikiLeaks do not believe in Full-Disclosure and WL partners has already created Ministry of Truth (from Orwell's final novel 1984). For example in

Re: [Full-disclosure] An idea of leaking alternative to wikileaks

2010-12-15 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
On 15/12/10 12.24, Christian Sciberras wrote: Which kind of trouble you refer to? It's nice to ear about understanding and risks analysis on that stuff. Libel, fraud, sharing of illegal material. Hey, if you're really intent on going along with this, be my guest. I'll be watching the

Re: [Full-disclosure] An idea of leaking alternative to wikileaks

2010-12-15 Thread Christian Sciberras
Not to criticitze you but it seems to me that you have not understood which are the differences. No problem with that. That's part of the point of discussion. I did understand the differences. The main issue is that dangerous material may be published anonymously without verification or

Re: [Full-disclosure] An idea of leaking alternative to wikileaks

2010-12-15 Thread mrx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 15/12/2010 11:34, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote: On 15/12/10 12.24, Christian Sciberras wrote: Which kind of trouble you refer to? It's nice to ear about understanding and risks analysis on that stuff. Libel, fraud, sharing of illegal

Re: [Full-disclosure] An idea of leaking alternative to wikileaks

2010-12-15 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 4:21 AM, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) li...@infosecurity.ch wrote: Hi all, i've been writing during past week a concept of leak management system with the following main differences with wikileaks: Concentrate on leak amplification to let leaks reach media No editing or

Re: [Full-disclosure] An idea of leaking alternative to wikileaks

2010-12-15 Thread Tillmann Werner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i've been writing during past week a concept of leak management system Don't people see the irony of systems designed for leaking information anonymously? Tillmann -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)