Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up

2010-10-26 Thread Charles Timko
.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-boun...@lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of PsychoBilly Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 4:00 AM To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/gates-wikileaks.pdf Fax

Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up

2010-10-26 Thread PsychoBilly
http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/gates-wikileaks.pdf Fax from John McCain to Senate Chairman Carl Levin. " The initial assessment in no way discounts the risk to national security; however, the review to date has not revealed any sensitive intelligence sources and methods compromised by this d

Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up

2010-10-24 Thread Troy Canasta
: Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up To: "Harry Behrens" Cc: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Date: Saturday, October 23, 2010, 9:57 PM So, it appears Wikileaks is now back online.. And they have put a new 'warlogs' database online.. Th

Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up

2010-10-23 Thread Cal Leeming
So, it appears Wikileaks is now back online.. And they have put a new 'warlogs' database online.. They do appear to have filtered out various things (there's ---'s in place of where words should be)... I don't know if this is like a cut down version of what they have, but it's is tediously bori

Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up

2010-10-22 Thread Colin Copley
The more knowledge of your enemy tactics you have the better no? And though I would still prefer actual proof of the info, the Pentagon top brass debunking is something they would do if it were true as well? valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > > As a result, even 100% perfect knowledge of our tacti

Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up

2010-10-22 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:06:15 PDT, Jonathan Medina said: > I am in the military, currently in Iraq, and these Wikileaks posts > have hurt us more than people realize. It does two things, first, it > demonstrates our tactics and procedures which allow insurgents to > conduct more effective attacks ag

Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up

2010-10-22 Thread Colin Copley
Well I think 'Twatter' risks alienating the sex professional community who you will need to buy in, something a little more upmarket perhaps. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted a

Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up

2010-10-22 Thread Ana Kismet
Then prove it. I don't care if you're married to the queen of England: your statement that WL has hurt the troops carries no ground without evidence. http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/10/17/wikileaks/index.html On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Jonathan Medina wrote: > I am

Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up

2010-10-22 Thread Troy Canasta
support snake oil like wikileaks. http://cryptome.org/0002/wikileaks-unlike.htm Thanks --- On Thu, 10/21/10, Harry Behrens wrote: From: Harry Behrens Subject: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Date: Thursday, October 21, 2010,

Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up

2010-10-22 Thread Shain Singh
Off topic but... On 22 October 2010 07:06, Jonathan Medina wrote: > the information it provides to insurgents endangers our sources and the > families of > sources that have provided us with valuable information. These people are giving you information but would be well aware of the danger the

Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up

2010-10-22 Thread PsychoBilly
1+ propaganda victim ( man! you're a hacker, don't you remember? ) [[ Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] ]] @ [[ 21/10/2010 23:59 ]]-- > I apologise for this, I had heard this in, what I had believed to be, a > credible news report. 1+ tru

Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up

2010-10-21 Thread coderman
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:43 PM, BMF wrote: > ... > So some are playing it up but [some] is playing > it down. Who ya gonna believe? C. None of the above. if they are mute or non-publishing it is by decision or apathy... you can always distribute - just how much do you want it? [the costs, w

Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up

2010-10-21 Thread BMF
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Charles Timko wrote: > Agreed. I am all for the transparency, but WL is possibly putting our troops > at risk by releasing military strategy.  I wouldn't expect JA to think that From: http://articles.cnn.com/2010-10-16/us/wikileaks.assessment_1_julian-assange-wi

Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up

2010-10-21 Thread Jonathan Medina
I am in the military, currently in Iraq, and these Wikileaks posts have hurt us more than people realize. It does two things, first, it demonstrates our tactics and procedures which allow insurgents to conduct more effective attacks against us, and second, the information it provides to insurgents

Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up

2010-10-21 Thread Charles Timko
[Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up I believe that most of the times it is not what you defend but how you defend it. I believe in Government transparency but the way WL is going about it it's not right, in my honest opinion. So this is good news in my opin

Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up

2010-10-21 Thread Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
I apologise for this, I had heard this in, what I had believed to be, a credible news report. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Camden Buzard wrote: > According to the secretary of defense, it's definitely a rumor: > > A letter from Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates to Comittee of Armed > Serv

Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up

2010-10-21 Thread Camden Buzard
According to the secretary of defense, it's definitely a rumor: A letter from Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates to Comittee of Armed Services Chairman Carl Levin dated August 16 but recently made available to the public says, “The initial assessment in no way discounts the risk to national

Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up

2010-10-21 Thread Ana Kismet
I have seen nothing released that reveals sensitive information such as "GPS co-ords + details of those who co-op'd with soldiers." This is a rumor. If you have proof that this is not a rumor, please post it. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leem...@si

Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up

2010-10-21 Thread Roger
I believe that most of the times it is not what you defend but how you defend it. I believe in Government transparency but the way WL is going about it it's not right, in my honest opinion. So this is good news in my opinion... -r ___ Full-Disclosure -

Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up

2010-10-21 Thread Harry Behrens
Am 21.10.2010 18:54, schrieb T Biehn: > An entity that has the resources that would provoke such a hollywood > esque tweet wouldn't have the ability to gag the twitter account > before this release? > would it, would it want to, has it missed it..who knows? > Wouldn't that mean the tweet is a lo

Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up

2010-10-21 Thread Thor (Hammer of God)
-boun...@lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-boun...@lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:51 AM To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up This will be my

Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up

2010-10-21 Thread Jeffrey Walton
Hi Cal, > I can appreciate his previous efforts, but what he has done here is put many > lifes at risk, both civilians and soldiers. Agreed. Just to play devils advocate: Would Barrack Obama also be culpable? His campaign platform included a withdrawl from Iraq (Afghanistan was a different story)

Re: [Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up

2010-10-21 Thread Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
This will be my first and last post on this topic (again). I've just finished watching some videos about what wikileaks have been doing. It appears that they released a bunch of documents that revealed information such as GPS co-ords + details of those who co-op'd with soldiers. He also posted th

[Full-disclosure] wikileaks still under attack, pressure revved up

2010-10-21 Thread Harry Behrens
Sorry to all of those who think this is "gossiping", but: Wikileaks has been down for ca. 2 weeks now during which time the US has at least cut off their financial channels. This during a period where WL has announced another major leak release this time re. Iraq. What is also extremely disconce