Re: [Full-disclosure] An uncontrolled ***OFFTOPIC*** thread ... America's future under George Bush ... my last post in this thread

2005-12-20 Thread bkfsec
Chris Umphress wrote: I suppose I could argue on either side of that fence. In my mind, Abraham was there early, so the Israelites were re-claiming their land. Interesting viewpoint, though. I had to respond to this... Stating that it's because Abraham was "there" so long ago and thus the

Re: [Full-disclosure] An uncontrolled ***OFFTOPIC*** thread ... America's future under George Bush ... my last post in this thread

2005-12-19 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005, Chris Umphress wrote: > I suppose I could argue on either side of that fence. In my mind, > Abraham was there early, so the Israelites were re-claiming their > land. Interesting viewpoint, though. I have a hard time with placing a reservation on a land parcel for 4000 years

Re: [Full-disclosure] An uncontrolled ***OFFTOPIC*** thread ... America's future under George Bush ... my last post in this thread

2005-12-19 Thread Chris Umphress
On 12/19/05, J.A. Terranson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Dec 2005, Chris Umphress wrote: > > > On 12/19/05, J.A. Terranson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > America is odd in that is is an active supporter of terrorism (Israel), an > > > > Come again? Israel is a terrorist state?

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2005-12-19 Thread rek2
Maybe because Israel Invaded their country...!!??? and they dont have and army to defend themself other than suicide bombers? and Israel is backup up by? the USA. Chris Umphress wrote: On 12/19/05, J.A. Terranson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: America is odd in that is is an active supporter

Re: [Full-disclosure] An uncontrolled ***OFFTOPIC*** thread ... America's future under George Bush ... my last post in this thread

2005-12-19 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005, Chris Umphress wrote: > On 12/19/05, J.A. Terranson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > America is odd in that is is an active supporter of terrorism (Israel), an > > Come again? Israel is a terrorist state? How in the world did you get > your mind bent enough that this even s

Re: [Full-disclosure] An uncontrolled ***OFFTOPIC*** thread ... America's future under George Bush ... my last post in this thread

2005-12-19 Thread Chris Umphress
On 12/19/05, J.A. Terranson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > America is odd in that is is an active supporter of terrorism (Israel), an Come again? Israel is a terrorist state? How in the world did you get your mind bent enough that this even seems right? What are you on? Israel has some intere

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2005-12-19 Thread J.A. Terranson
IL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Full-Disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] An uncontrolled ***OFFTOPIC*** thread ... > America's future under George Bush ... my last post in this thread > > If the US spent 1/10th of the time and money on pre

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2005-12-19 Thread qballus
./TJ ... sorry to have added to this thread even more, I hate feeding trolls. -Original Message-From: Byron Sonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 5:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Full-Disclosure@lists.grok.org.ukSubject: Re: [Full-disclosure] An uncontrolled ***OFFTOP

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2005-12-19 Thread rek2
ubject: Re: [Full-disclosure] An uncontrolled ***OFFTOPIC*** thread ... America's future under George Bush And - about permitting Iran to develop nuclear power "because the US is a bully" ... WTF? More than one side to the story, homes... everyone has the right to peacable nuclear

RE: [Full-disclosure] An uncontrolled ***OFFTOPIC*** thread ... America's future under George Bush ... my last post in this thread

2005-12-19 Thread TJ
t: Re: [Full-disclosure] An uncontrolled ***OFFTOPIC*** thread ... America's future under George Bush > And - about permitting Iran to develop nuclear power "because the US is a > bully" ... WTF? More than one side to the story, homes... everyone has the right to peacable

Re: [Full-disclosure] An uncontrolled ***OFFTOPIC*** thread ... America's future under George Bush

2005-12-19 Thread Byron Sonne
And - about permitting Iran to develop nuclear power "because the US is a bully" ... WTF? More than one side to the story, homes... everyone has the right to peacable nuclear power. Even if they did develop nukes, it's in their right. If the USA, Russia + satellite states, France, UK, India,

RE: [Full-disclosure] An uncontrolled ***OFFTOPIC*** thread ... America's future under George Bush

2005-12-19 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005, TJ wrote: > So, because war was not declared it doesn't exist? Not at all. It clearly exists - we've certainly killed and maimed enough civilians to prove it. > No; we are at war - not because of what our President has done / is doing, > but because we were attacked (again

RE: [Full-disclosure] An uncontrolled ***OFFTOPIC*** thread ... America's future under George Bush

2005-12-19 Thread TJ
So, because war was not declared it doesn't exist? No; we are at war - not because of what our President has done / is doing, but because we were attacked (again) and are *finally* responding. And - about permitting Iran to develop nuclear power "because the US is a bully" ... WTF? You are talk