Re: Re: more on simulation ...

1998-12-05 Thread Edward Weick
"Douglas P. Wilson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since my post containing some tentative requirements analysis the silence has been deafening, with even Jay Hanson being mute on the subject. For my part, I found your post excellent, even inspiring. I marvel at your level of enthusiasm. -Pete

Re: more on simulation ...

1998-12-05 Thread Mark Measday
Mr Wilson's attempt to carry this mammoth undertaking out should be applauded. Hmm, how do you know you simulated and they didn't? If the output was the same Why would successfully simulating understanding the economy be any different from understanding? I don't understand why the sun goes

Fwd: Request allowance to send email

1998-12-05 Thread David Burman
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 22:34:23 -0500 From: joy kogawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Forwarded Message- From: INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED], INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi As the Keynote speaker at the money conference in Palo Alto during the weekend January 30 / February 1 this

Re: more on simulation ...

1998-12-05 Thread Durant
I admit I did not follow this thread thoroughly, but I have a question: How do you collect your initial data, is it all based on the present ownership mode? Can your scheme simulate a system based on a different economic base, such as common ownership? How can you simulate the scale of democracy

Simulation and the Halloween Document

1998-12-05 Thread Michael Gurstein
What I find intriguing and potentially exciting about the simulation notion that is being discussed is if it were to be set up in a way parallel to the manner in which the on-going development of Linux/open systems is proceeding. Linus Thorvalds, a Finnish graduate student adapted the ATT

Re: (FW) Data and projects (simulation)

1998-12-05 Thread Edward Weick
Steve Kurtz: (Douglas: I urge you to have a look before attempting to re-invent the wheel.) Then, summarizing a paper: Simulators are descriptions of complex systems representing the interrelationships among the processes that constitute the system; they combine observations of past states of

Re: more simulation ideas

1998-12-05 Thread Mike Hollinshead
Douglas, One major problem you are going to run into is the inability of non-chaotic systems models to generate surprise (like innovations) as such models are completely defined. Innovation is one of the major factors from the human side and Mother Nature has tricks up her sleeve too. Any

FW -- a note about free software

1998-12-05 Thread Douglas P. Wilson
Just a quick note, with an attachment. For me, what is most important about the simulation I'm now beginning to work on can be captured in two words 'free' and 'open'. I am attaching a copy of the GNU public license which I think you all should read. The development of freely available and

Suctional unemployment

1998-12-05 Thread Tom Walker
Suctional unemployment is that portion of unemployment attributable to the hoarding of jobs or hours of work. When unemployment is high or the cost of job loss is perceived to be excessive, people will hang on to the job they have even though the work doesn't allow them to fully use or develop

More on PR- Top 10 Newspeak

1998-12-05 Thread Caspar Davis
For those not familiar with Wayne Grytting, he is one of the most entertaining internet digesters. The firstr story below (not in the same order Wayne sent them in) is an interesting followup to the Burston-Marstellar article. Caspar Davis Excerpt from Top NEWSPEAK Stories of the Month #104

ILO on Impact of Asian Crisis (fwd)

1998-12-05 Thread Michael Gurstein
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 13:06:25 -0500 From: Robert Weissman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list STOP-IMF [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ILO on Impact of Asian Crisis (fwd) INTERNATIONAL LABOUR ORGANIZATION 1998 PRESS RELEASES Asian Labour Market

Important book review: corporation nation

1998-12-05 Thread Caspar Davis
Michael Spencer recently noted (on the futurework listserv) the sociopathic nature of the publicly-held corporation. The correct word is sociopath ("a person who lacks social or moral responsibility because of a mental illness"- World Book Dictionary), not psychopath, which merely means a person

simulating ownership and democracy

1998-12-05 Thread Douglas P. Wilson
Eva Durant asked I admit I did not follow this thread thoroughly, but I have a question: How do you collect your initial data, Anywhere I can find it. I have several back issues of the CIA World Fact Book (text files on CD-ROM) which will provide some basic data about population, income,

simulation and halloween

1998-12-05 Thread Douglas P. Wilson
Thanks to Michael Gurstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the reference to the Halloween document and his comments on Linux. What the simulation discussion triggered for me, was an image of a similar initiative to develop a map of the global economy with multiple independent information sources each

chaos or not

1998-12-05 Thread Douglas P. Wilson
Mike Hollinshead [EMAIL PROTECTED] repeated some comments he made earlier about chaotic versus non-chaotic models, saying One major problem you are going to run into is the inability of non-chaotic systems models to generate surprise (like innovations) as such models are completely defined.