"Douglas P. Wilson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since my post containing some tentative requirements analysis the
silence has been deafening, with even Jay Hanson being mute on the
subject.
For my part, I found your post excellent, even inspiring. I marvel
at your level of enthusiasm.
-Pete
Mr Wilson's attempt to carry this mammoth undertaking out should be
applauded.
Hmm, how do you know you simulated and they didn't? If the output was
the same Why would successfully simulating understanding the economy
be any different from understanding? I don't understand why the sun goes
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 22:34:23 -0500
From: joy kogawa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi
As the Keynote speaker at the money conference in Palo Alto during the
weekend January 30 / February 1 this
I admit I did not follow this thread thoroughly, but
I have a question: How do you collect your initial data, is it all
based on the present ownership mode?
Can your scheme simulate a system based on a different
economic base, such as common ownership?
How can you simulate the scale of democracy
What I find intriguing and potentially exciting about the simulation
notion that is being discussed is if it were to be set up in a way
parallel to the manner in which the on-going development of Linux/open
systems is proceeding.
Linus Thorvalds, a Finnish graduate student adapted the ATT
Steve Kurtz:
(Douglas: I urge you to have a look before attempting to re-invent the
wheel.)
Then, summarizing a paper:
Simulators are descriptions of complex systems representing the
interrelationships among the processes that constitute the system; they
combine observations of past states of
Douglas,
One major problem you are going to run into is the inability of non-chaotic
systems models to generate surprise (like innovations) as such models are
completely defined. Innovation is one of the major factors from the human
side and Mother Nature has tricks up her sleeve too. Any
Just a quick note, with an attachment.
For me, what is most important about the simulation I'm now beginning
to work on can be captured in two words 'free' and 'open'.
I am attaching a copy of the GNU public license which I think you all
should read. The development of freely available and
Suctional unemployment is that portion of unemployment attributable to the
hoarding of jobs or hours of work. When unemployment is high or the cost of
job loss is perceived to be excessive, people will hang on to the job they
have even though the work doesn't allow them to fully use or develop
For those not familiar with Wayne Grytting, he is one of the most
entertaining internet digesters. The firstr story below (not in the
same order Wayne sent them in) is an interesting followup to the
Burston-Marstellar article.
Caspar Davis
Excerpt from Top NEWSPEAK Stories of the Month #104
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Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 13:06:25 -0500
From: Robert Weissman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list STOP-IMF [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ILO on Impact of Asian Crisis (fwd)
INTERNATIONAL LABOUR ORGANIZATION 1998 PRESS RELEASES
Asian Labour Market
Michael Spencer recently noted (on the futurework listserv) the
sociopathic nature of the publicly-held corporation. The correct word
is sociopath ("a person who lacks social or moral responsibility
because of a mental illness"- World Book Dictionary), not psychopath,
which merely means a person
Eva Durant asked
I admit I did not follow this thread thoroughly, but
I have a question: How do you collect your initial data,
Anywhere I can find it. I have several back issues of the CIA World Fact
Book (text files on CD-ROM) which will provide some basic data about
population, income,
Thanks to Michael Gurstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the reference
to the Halloween document and his comments on Linux.
What the simulation discussion triggered for me, was an image of a similar
initiative to develop a map of the global economy with multiple
independent information sources each
Mike Hollinshead [EMAIL PROTECTED] repeated some comments he made
earlier about chaotic versus non-chaotic models, saying
One major problem you are going to run into is the inability of non-chaotic
systems models to generate surprise (like innovations) as such models are
completely defined.
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