I'm glad there are people who can compose more
concisely...Eva
Why do they believe this? First, explicit evolutionary thinking can
sometimes eliminate certain kinds of errors in thinking about behavior
(Symons, 1987).
...
and so on.
Evolutionary theory is only intended to explain how
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:18:00 -0500
From: Mike Dolan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list TW-LIST [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The Trade Battle
in case you missed this
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The Trade Battle
By E. J. Dionne Jr.
Tuesday,
Jay:
...
As it has turned out, modern evolutionary scientists have found that the
Founding Fathers were right: true democracy won?t work. Natural selection
and genetic development created a human tendency for dominance, submission,
hierarchy, and obedience, as opposed to equality and democracy.
Ed W.:
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Somehow I'm not at all surprised that this is your point of view. But then
how is merit to be determined? Testing and experience, you say, but who
will assess this? Surely an intelligent and informed public should have
something to do with it. But, I suppose you would then argue
Yes, scientists are human, but when we try to define something, shouldn't
it define what is, not what its practitioners mistakenly assume it to be ?
Science in its description of itself denies the entire right brain creative
side of itself. It does this because the mythology of science is
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From: Sid Shniad
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Workplace sabotage on the rise as job security wanes
Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 4:24PM
THE LOS ANGELES TIMES October 31, 1998
SURE, WORKERS GET MAD BUT MORE GET EVEN
Sabotage Is on the Rise As Job Security
Eva Durant wrote:
Science is a method. I detest any separation of
thinking into "artist" and "scientist". I think we
all do and need both, but this has nothing to do with
the way science works.
"Detest" doesn't say anything. Because both hands are the body doesn't mean
that both hands
Both describe reality in different ways.
One person is able to do both. I don't think
artists are predisposed against being good at
science and vice versa.
Eva
Science is a method. I detest any separation of
thinking into "artist" and "scientist". I think we
all do and need both, but
Date:Wed, 27 Jan 1999 18:13:42 +1300
From:Ross James Swanston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CUPE Privatization Report
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I am reposting the following report which shows that Corporations are
gaining control of our public services at an alarming
More on the Market Basket Measure of Poverty. Richard Shillington has done
a great paper outlineing what is going on at;
http://home.iSTAR.ca/~ers2/poverty/MBM.htm
Also more background at:
http://home.iSTAR.ca/~ers2/poverty/poverty.htm
Thought this was worth sharing as it details the impact
Anyone who uses the winners/losers biological
evolution argument for the development of human society
is ready to blame the failures of social structure
on human characteristics, and ready to condemn
sections of society, rather than to condenm
inefficient social structures. A
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From: Eva Durant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why do they believe this? First, explicit evolutionary thinking can
sometimes eliminate certain kinds of errors in thinking about behavior
(Symons, 1987).
Evolutionary theory is only intended to explain how living organisms
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From: Edward Weick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How about an explicit definition of the job and explicit qualifications?
We do that with every other job, why not politics?
God will write them? Theocracies worked for a while, but they too had
their
problems -- e.g. the classic
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From: Eva Durant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Natural selection and genetic development works in a
much larger time scale than social depelopment that
may change human hierarchical, obedient etc behaviour
in less than a generation and such socially
conditioned behaviour forms
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From: Colin Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hence the concept of Direct Democracy:
" a SYSTEM of citizen-initiated binding referendums whereby voters can
directly amend, introduce and remove policies and laws"
No thanks! I saw direct democracy in action the other night on
Eva Durant wrote:
Not informed , yes. But not intelligent?? I wasn't aware of
any decline in public intelligence. Any data?
Voting and tv vieing habits are not valid - they belong to
the "not informed" bit.
I am seriously concerned now. How many of this list have
this total contempt for
I know many former artists who have good jobs in the sciences, however the
reverse is rarely true. Why?
Eva Durant wrote:
Both describe reality in different ways.
One person is able to do both. I don't think
artists are predisposed against being good at
science and vice versa.
Eva
I've been really enjoying the manic state of FW over the last while. I've
barely got time to read half the messages but I would never miss Ray E.
Harrell's stuff. He sees things very differently than most. He also has the
ability to slow some people down and have them think. Much of what gets
Eva Durant wrote: (snip)
Because they think without the intrusion of govrnments,
the winners/losers separation would be more perfect
for them. So that they can blame then every ill
on just their "inefficiently evolved" victims.
Are you saying it is like the Christian who blames Christians
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From: Sid Shniad
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Public Forum on Poverty and Inequality
Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 4:43PM
PLEASE DISTRIBUTE THIS NOTICE WIDELY
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Public Forum on Poverty and Inequality
THE GROWING GAP
. . . we had a four-day work week?
The NEXT CITY asked Tom Walker, a social policy analyst with TimeWork Web,
and Jock Finlayson, vice-president of policy and analysis for the Business
Council of British Columbia, to comment.
go to:
http://www.nextcity.com/whatif/whatif14.htm
Who makes more
Jay,
It is no more scientifically true than that the sun and planets revolve
around the earth.
What is really funny is that Darwin purloined his principle of selection
through competition from classical economics, from Malthus in fact. So you
take the dog eat dog mythology of early capitalism
Actually Brian, I have no problem nor does my culture or profession with
Quantum Physics, it is just the linearity of Newtonian physics without the
uncertainity of his metaphysics (action) to balance his linear objectification
that I would protest. I don't believe reality is contained in
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From: Mike Hollinshead [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It is no more scientifically true than that the sun and planets revolve
around the earth.
What is really funny is that Darwin purloined his principle of selection
through competition from classical economics, from Malthus in
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From: Durant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
primate and human behaviour is not the same, so such research
is not scientific.
Evolutionary scientists include humans unless stated otherwise.
Scientists are using the theory of evolution to predict human behavior:
-
Ray wrote:
I know many former artists who have good jobs in the sciences,
however the reverse is rarely true. Why?
Interesting observation. I know too few painters, musicians, dancer
etc. to make an estimate. Artist blacksmiths may be a notable
exception. I started out in chemistry and
From: Edward Weick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How about an explicit definition of the job and explicit qualifications?
We do that with every other job, why not politics?
God will write them? Theocracies worked for a while, but they too had
their
problems -- e.g. the classic Mayas screwed up their
No thanks! I saw direct democracy in action the other night on a PBS
program about Rwanda: eight-hundred-thousand dead in one hundred days.
Jay
Jay,
Don't you think your being just a little unfair? That was butchery, not
democracy. Given its background, it could have happened under any
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From: Edward Weick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No thanks! I saw direct democracy in action the other night on a PBS
program about Rwanda: eight-hundred-thousand dead in one hundred days.
Don't you think your being just a little unfair? That was butchery, not
democracy.
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