FVWM: I need UnmanageWithTimeout :-).

2007-05-02 Thread Tom Horsley
As my latest experiment with the disappearing virt-manager windows, I was
able to bring them up as long as I tell fvwm they should be unmanaged.

Once the window exists, I can edit the fvwm config file, remove the
style that says unmanaged, and restart fvwm and the windows get decorations
and operate perfectly normally (until I want to popup a new one, of course).

So obviously what I need is a new UnmanageWithTimeout style that waits a
specified number of milliseconds before trying to manage the window :-).



Re: FVWM: disappearing windows?

2007-05-02 Thread Viktor Griph

On Tue, 1 May 2007, Tom Horsley wrote:


Having gotten really curious about what was going on, I installed
xmon to watch the protocol messages as the windows appear and
disappear. Everything is relatively similar with no window manager
and with FVWM until a whole batch of expose events happen
in a row, then I see a PropertyNotify that refers to the WM_STATE
atom, then the window gets unmapped.

Anyone know of any funny shenanigans pygtk and/or fvwm (or the
combination) get up to?


Is it possible that the application uses EWMH to trigger a move of the 
window just as it's being mapped (Firefox 2 does that on session recovery, 
which might result in windows being moved off screen if firefox crashed on 
a different page than active when restarted.)


Have You tried to move the window back on screen using the All cammand 
from FvwmConsole?



/Viktor



Re: FVWM: disappearing windows?

2007-05-02 Thread Tom Horsley
 Have You tried to move the window back on screen using the All cammand 
 from FvwmConsole?

Yep, as near as I can tell, the window really does go away (though the
app doesn't exit). There is one window created by the virt-manager
app that acts normal, all the other ones disappear when I try to
bring them up under fvwm (unless I say unmanaged - I tried a vast
collection of other style options with ignore in their name, but none
of them helped :-).

If I understood more about how to read pygtk code I might be able to
guess why the one window is different than the other windows, but
I don't really know gtk or python, much less the combination.



Re: FVWM: Beginners-Infos /Example-Files(simple,please) ?

2007-05-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-04-29 18:37:40, schrieb Oliver Bandel:
 You are working on the fvwm-manpage?

Not realy on the manpages.  I take the Manpages and try to get good
examples into to crate my own Documentation

 If so, then it's clear that you read it already, and understand anything ;-)

No, I do not know anything, but I take some of the solutions discused
on this list and put it into the documentation.  The problem is, that
I have not realy time to work on it

 Some people use docbook, others LaTeX, others use different things.
 It depends on what you want to do.

LaTeX = TeXlive

 I didn't used TeXlive until now.
 I had used teTeX and other TeX-Distributions (for Mac).
 But teTeX will not be further maintained. :(

Upstream is dead.  This is, WHY TeXlive exist.

 If it is already installed, it should be easy to use
 the TeX-stuff, independently of the distribution.

I have removed the whole TeTeX stuff and now installed the Denian
Version of TeXlive...  but I was long time not more working with
any TeX stuff and some things have changed...  so I am re-learning.

Greetings
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


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