Re: unclutter gtk2

2005-01-06 Thread Paul Smith
I had to give up unclutter due to this bug. I still miss it terribly :-(. It would be nice if someone figured out what the problem is. -- --- Paul D. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] HASMAT--HA Software Mthds Tools Please

FVWM: More than 4 desktops in Gnome

2005-01-06 Thread Paul Smith
Hi all; I'm using Gnome 2.8 on Debian Sarge, with FVWM 2.5.12 (packaged by Debian) as my window manager. I'm also using fvwm-themes 0.7.0 and fvwm-icons 2001.08.13, also from Debian packages. This same thing happened when I was using 2.6, and maybe before that. My problem is that when I log

Re: FVWM: How to compile fvwm with stroke support

2004-05-20 Thread Paul Smith
%% Dan Espen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: de Alvin Chin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry to be ignorant, but when I right click with my mouse on the root window (the background of my desktop which is in a VNC viewer), I only see the standard menu of the GNOME window manager (New Windows,

Re: FVWM: New Debian package, second try

2004-03-17 Thread Paul Smith
%% Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Works fine for me, upgrading from a locally compiled/installed 2.5.7 - after putting my old system.fvwm2rc in ~/.fvwm/.fvwm2rc I'm not getting anti-aliased fonts (I am in, for instance, Mozilla and Gnumeric; I didn't with my homebrew 2.5.7

No Xft mono fonts in FvwmForm?

2003-12-13 Thread Paul Smith
I changed my FvwmFormDefaultFont, etc. to use Xft fonts like this: *FvwmFormDefaultFont xft:Bitstream Vera Sans:Bold:minspace=True:size=12 that works great. However, I then tried to make the InputFont use a monospace font like this: *FvwmFormDefaultInputFont xft:Bitstream Vera Sans

Re: FVWM: init-function

2003-12-03 Thread Paul Smith
%% Dan Espen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Exec ssh-add /dev/null;$HOME/bin/email-notify de The double exec is to get rid of the shell that launches and waits de for the the command to terminate. Since email-notify probably de hangs around, Exec exec is probably better, but I'm not too

Re: FVWM: Re: Unofficial debian package for 2.5.8

2003-11-13 Thread Paul Smith
%% Mikhael Goikhman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are we still speaking of the examples? mg I am speaking about the patch of 1.2Mb that you apply. Maybe a good way forward would be for someone to go through the 1.2M patch and give a concise bullet list of all the changes that it makes. Then

Re: FVWM: fvwm for Debian

2003-09-05 Thread Paul Smith
%% Remko Troncon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: debian unstable is called unstable because it's not stable yet, not because it includes unstable (development) versions of apps. Generally debian unstable includes latest stable versions of apps (or at least that's the goal, as far as I

Re: FVWM: Wiki for fvwm?

2003-07-29 Thread Paul Smith
%% Felix E. Klee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: fek 4. a method to include menus for CodeWeavers CXOffice and CXPlugin. Ooh, I'd be interested in that. -- --- Paul D. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] HASMAT--HA Software Mthds

Re: Gnome 2 and FVWM

2003-07-19 Thread Paul Smith
%% Olivier Chapuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: oc Ok, I've found the problem: the gnome-session editor wants oc the SmCloneCommand. I will commit a fix soon. Excellent; thanks Olivier. -- --- Paul D. Smith [EMAIL

Re: Gnome 2 and FVWM

2003-07-16 Thread Paul Smith
%% Olivier Chapuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another thing is that the fonts don't look so hot anymore: I'm using Microsoft's Arial TrueType font for window titles, menus, etc. and they used to look excellent, but now they look blocky and uneven. oc What are your exact fvwm

Re: Gnome 2 and FVWM

2003-07-16 Thread Paul Smith
All the rest of my problems seem solved, except this one: anyone have any idea whether the Gnome 2.2 session manager is sufficiently different that it doesn't grok FVWM? %% I wrote: sp Yes, this is what I eventually did. Yes there is a session sp control dialog; it's here: sp Foot -

Re: Gnome 2 and FVWM

2003-07-15 Thread Paul Smith
%% Mikhael Goikhman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: mg killall sawfish? If this does not work and it is restarted, try mg to remove sawfish from the Session Properties dialog (I hope there mg is one in GNOME 2). Yes, this is what I eventually did. Yes there is a session control dialog; it's

Re: Gnome 2 and FVWM

2003-07-15 Thread Paul Smith
%% Dan Espen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: de Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I compiled fvwm with almost everything enabled, except the GNOME support for FvwmGtk (because there's no gnome-config on my system: for some reason it's not provided with the gnome2 development packages

Re: Gnome 2 and FVWM

2003-07-14 Thread Paul Smith
%% Olivier Chapuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: oc Start gnome-session in my .xinitrc oc (+ before: export FVWM_USERDIR=/home/olivier/.fvwm-fd oc fvwm-themes-start --session gnome --no-start oc but this is for my fvwm config). oc Then, I've metacity as window manager. I open a

Re: FVWM: Simple Hack: A Run Dialog

2003-05-12 Thread Paul Smith
%% Dan Espen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: de As I understand it a wiki is a bunch of web sites linked together. de Fvwm does have a links page. Isn't that sufficient? No, you're thinking of a web ring. A Wiki is a site where the content is user-modifiable, at any time, simply by using your

Re: Gnome 2 and FVWM

2003-04-24 Thread Paul Smith
%% Olivier Chapuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Overall I'm not having too many problems (except with Nautilus, but I'll deal with that). oc There is a new bindings context D which may help a bit with Nautilus oc desktop. This looks good, I'll try it out, thanks! But, one thing

Gnome 2 and FVWM

2003-04-23 Thread Paul Smith
At work we just migrated to Red Hat 8.0. The WM that comes with Gnome is _sooo_ sad and pathetic that I couldn't stand it for more than a few seconds, so I switched back to FVWM, although I want to keep the Gnome setup (panel, etc.) because we have some company customizations, etc. there.

Re: The fvwm Ethical License

2003-03-31 Thread Paul Smith
%% Dominik Vogt fvwm-workers@fvwm.org writes: dv *Shrug* This discussion is becoming moot. I will not tolerate dv anymore that my work takes a part in killing. If the only way to dv do it is to stop development of fvwm and somehow prevent that fvwm dv is distributed, then I have to do

Re: Ethics and some straight talking

2003-03-31 Thread Paul Smith
%% Bob Woodside [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: bw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...who of the subscribers of the original message would sign it and who would not? This release is dedicated to the victims of the war in Iraq that began in March, 2003. The following people, many of them

Re: The fvwm Ethical License

2003-03-30 Thread Paul Smith
Hi Dominik... There has been a lot of discussion about whether the ideas expressed in the ethical license are really ethical or not (is it ethical to kill a person? Is it ethical to not kill a person who is directly threatening yourself or your children? Etc.) This kind of thing is,

Re: The fvwm Ethical License

2003-03-28 Thread Paul Smith
%% [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: dv Legally, fvwm is distributed under the terms of the GNU General dv Public License. However, the events following the 9th of dv September, 2001 I assume you mean 11 Sep 2001. -- ---

Re: fvwm license going to be revoked

2003-03-27 Thread Paul Smith
%% Dominik Vogt fvwm-workers@fvwm.org writes: I do not agree with your interpretations of the GPL WRT the legality of restricting use, but since we appear to have come down to you're wrong vs. no you're wrong, it doesn't seem productive to continue with that :) Copyright covers only certain

Re: fvwm license going to be revoked

2003-03-25 Thread Paul Smith
%% [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: dv On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 01:08:46PM -0500, Paul Smith wrote: %% Dominik Vogt fvwm-workers@fvwm.org writes: But when you distribute the same sections as part of a whole which is a work based on the Program, the distribution of the whole must

Re: fvwm license going to be revoked

2003-03-21 Thread Paul Smith
%% Dominik Vogt fvwm-workers@fvwm.org writes: But when you distribute the same sections as part of a whole which is a work based on the Program, the distribution of the whole must be on the terms of this License, whose permissions for other licensees extend to the entire whole, and

Re: fvwm license going to be revoked

2003-03-21 Thread Paul Smith
%% Dominik Vogt fvwm-workers@fvwm.org writes: dv You hit the bull's eye, Dan. I have always been a fervent dv advocate of the GPL because I believe in unversal cooperation dv instead of competition, and developing open source software was my dv way to contribute to that idea. Now I had

Re: fvwm license going to be revoked

2003-03-20 Thread Paul Smith
%% Dominik Vogt fvwm-workers@fvwm.org writes: There is absolutely no possible way a license with clauses such as the ones you described previously can coexist with GPL'd code, no matter how carefully crafted or how much time is spent on it. dv Well, maybe there is. The GPL covers

Re: FVWM: configure broken with 2.5.5

2003-02-22 Thread Paul Smith
%% Ben Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: bw After a little experimentation and research, it seems that nested bw functions are forbidden by ISO C but allowed by ANSI Not sure where you get this: no C standard I've ever seen (ANSI or ISO) has ever allowed nested function definitions. There

Re: FVWM: configure broken with 2.5.5

2003-02-22 Thread Paul Smith
%% Dan Espen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: de Guess I've been fooled by configure again. Oh that rude autoconf, behaving exactly as described in its manual yet again!! How tiresome! :) In this case you actually got fooled by GCC, which has this super-advanced extension that made what is

Re: compiler warning/bug in FvwmScript/script.y

2002-11-14 Thread Paul Smith
%% Dominik Vogt fvwm-workers@fvwm.org writes: dv When I compiled with -Wall -Werror -g I got no warnings at all, dv but with -Wall -Werror -g -O2 it worked fine. Some kinds of warnings are not found unless you compile with optimization. Enabling the optimizer allows the compiler to look

Re: compiler warning/bug in FvwmScript/script.y

2002-11-14 Thread Paul Smith
%% Dominik Vogt fvwm-workers@fvwm.org writes: dv Heck! Why isn't that mentioned in the gcc info page?! You mean like this: These warnings are possible only in optimizing compilation, because they require data flow information that is computed only when optimizing. If you

Re: compiler warning/bug in FvwmScript/script.y

2002-11-14 Thread Paul Smith
%% Cameron Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Sorry, I somehow missed that paragraph. I just can't operate info | :-/ cs You may want my man script, which presents info as one of the cs choices for manual pages. More to the point, it parses info files cs and turns them into a single

Re: FvwmProxy 0.91 ready for CVS

2002-10-29 Thread Paul Smith
%% Dominik Vogt fvwm-workers@fvwm.org writes: dv - Removed C++ style comments dv This is not allowed in C: dv { dv int x; dv x = 1; dv int y; dv } Just a pedantic note; both of the above _are_ legal in C, as of the ISO 1999

Re: FVWM: Re: Fvwm 2.5.4

2002-10-29 Thread Paul Smith
%% Peter Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: pm STOP sending these announcements to me. I have requested you to stop pm several times. You are subscribed to the fvwm-announce mailing list. So, you get all the FVWM announcements. If you no longer want to be subscribed to the fvwm-announce

Re: Defunct processes?

2002-10-09 Thread Paul Smith
Hm. I upgraded to the latest Debian testing stuff (including a new libc) and now the problem has disappeared. Oh well :). -- --- Paul D. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] HASMAT--HA Software Mthds Tools Please remain calm...I

Re: Defunct processes?

2002-10-03 Thread Paul Smith
%% Smith, Paul [BL60:430:EXCH][EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sp The issue is that any process I start either from fvwm directly or sp from FvwmButtons will go defunct after I exit it. It stays sp defunct forever, with a parent of the fvwm process, until I sp restart fvwm. No one has any idea

Re: Defunct processes?

2002-10-03 Thread Paul Smith
%% Dan Espen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: de Have you set ExecUseShell or $SHELL? I set ExecUseShell to /bin/sh. -- --- Paul D. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] HASMAT--HA Software Mthds Tools Please remain calm...I may be

Defunct processes?

2002-10-01 Thread Paul Smith
I'm seeing a very bizarre behavior on my Debian GNU/Linux box (3.0). I'm using the official packaged version of fvwm from unstable (2.4.10-2). I had this same problem with the fvwm from testing (2.4.8) so I upgraded, but upgrading didn't help. I'm sure that this has not always behaved this way,

Re: odd highlighed window problem with 2.4.9

2002-09-12 Thread Paul Smith
If you're setting it up from scratch I suggest you go with viewcvs instead of cvsweb; the former is nicer (and, unless things have changed recently, much better supported): http://viewcvs.sourceforge.net/ -- --- Paul

Re: FVWM: keys...

2002-08-29 Thread Paul Smith
%% Sam Izzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or just press the num-lock key again ;-) See question 0.1 in the FAQ. si Oh my god, what an idiot am i!!! I feel so stupid :) Don't feel stupid. You'll notice that's question 0.1 in the FAQ... there's a reason for that after all :). --

Re: FVWM: Re: simple question: how execute xterm and then a script?

2002-08-20 Thread Paul Smith
%% Jason L Tibbitts III [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jlt Anything which trips the filters gets sent to me for approval. jlt It can occasionally take me a little while to approve things, jlt especially when they come in while I'm asleep. The filters are jlt extensive. Why do you think this

Re: changes to fvwm that have not been included in 2.4.5 for unknown reasons

2002-01-30 Thread Paul Smith
%% Alexander Kotelnikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ak You are about this works, and I am about this is wrong. Shell ak is not the one program who exec. It works is far more important to us than it follows the standard. There are many situations out there where following the standard yields

Re: changes to fvwm that have not been included in 2.4.5 for unknown reasons

2002-01-29 Thread Paul Smith
%% Alexander Kotelnikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ak I always thought, that it is supposed, that all scripts have ak #! interpretator ak as the first line It's a good idea, but not necessary. If there is no known magic value at the beginning of the file then the kernel just gives it to

Re: perl invocation

2002-01-29 Thread Paul Smith
%% Mikhael Goikhman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: mg Well, the following is even better if we want the first perl in $PATH: mg #!/usr/bin/env perl Unfortunately you can't rely on env always being in /usr/bin. There most assuredly are systems where it isn't. Catch-22. --

Re: changes to fvwm that have not been included in 2.4.5 for unknown reasons

2002-01-29 Thread Paul Smith
%% Alexander Kotelnikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mikhael This is not correct. It is standard for unux kernels to pass Mikhael a text executable script to /bin/sh by default. ak LIE. Read standards, please. Single UNIX says: If the process image file is not a valid executable object,