Re: FVWM: No module "FvwmTaskBar" in Fvwm 2.6.9?
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 06:18:26PM +0200, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote:
> > > 2. After I upgraded again from Fvwm version 2.6.5-r3 to 2.6.9 I found
> > >that the manpage "/usr/share/man/man1/fvwm.1.bz2" is missing. Is
> > >this Gentoo specific or did I look in the wrong place?
> >
> > Sounds like the '--enable-mandoc' option to ./configure wasn't passed?
>
> Don't think so because other manual pages are there:
Pass. Not a FVWM problem, but definitely a problem with Gentoo's ebuild.
[~]{7958}[0] % apropos fvwm[23]
fvwm3 (1)- F? Virtual Window Manager for X11
FvwmMFL (1) - the Fvwm3 front-loader module
fvwm2 (1)- F? Virtual Window Manager for X11
I'll get back to you about FvwmIconMan.
Kindly,
Thomas
Re: FVWM: No module "FvwmTaskBar" in Fvwm 2.6.9?
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 04:59:42PM +0200, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Thomas, Hello Rainer, > On Saturday, 2020-08-15 12:36:24 +0100, you wrote: > > > ... > > Custom tooltips aren't possible in FvwmButtons yet. > > Well, I think I'll survive with just the clock :-) Cool! > However, two other minor problems showed up: > > 1. While the names of the buttons in FvwmButtons are placed normally, >the names of the FvwmIconMan buttons are placed (using format "%t") >as if all names started with two or three blanks, which is just a >minor waste of time. That's probably just the space occupied by the >square box shown for iconified windows. But even whith "ShowNoIcons >True" neither this box nor this space goes away. What's the correct >option to use? Show me your config and I'll take a look. > 2. After I upgraded again from Fvwm version 2.6.5-r3 to 2.6.9 I found >that the manpage "/usr/share/man/man1/fvwm.1.bz2" is missing. Is >this Gentoo specific or did I look in the wrong place? Sounds like the '--enable-mandoc' option to ./configure wasn't passed? Depends how you upgraded. I'm afraid I know next to nothing about Gentoo and would like to keep it that way. :) Kindly, Thomas
Re: FVWM: No module "FvwmTaskBar" in Fvwm 2.6.9?
On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 01:31:23PM +0200, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Others have also pointed me to > >https://www.fvwm.org/Wiki/Panels/FvwmTaskBar/ > > and that helped me re-implementing my taskbar, except for the clock dis- > playing the current date as tooltip when hovering the mouse pointer over > it. Is this still doable? Custom tooltips aren't possible in FvwmButtons yet. I did have a patch for that from years ago, but it needs a bit more work. For now, you'll either have to live without it, or find an external clock application which can be swallowed by FvwmButtons and also has this tooltip functionality you're after. > > ... > > >FvwmForm > > Killed. > > I use FvwmForm to interactively ask questions and to interpret the ans- > wers received. How to do this now? I've just resurrected this module in Fvwm3. > Erm ... what's the difference between "Killed" and "Dead"? But more to > the point: How do I achieve the same effect with current methods? No difference. You can use the WindowList command in Fvwm, or I quite happily use an external command called 'rofi'. Kindly, Thomas
Re: FVWM: No module "FvwmTaskBar" in Fvwm 2.6.9?
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 01:35:46PM +0200, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > While I think I could also provide the buttons via module "FvwmButtons" > and could use a separate digital clock application, I did neither find > an "AutoHide" specification for "FvwmIconMan" nor for "FvwmButtons". Autohide is already in the FAQ and is independent of any module. See: https://www.fvwm.org/Archive/Faq/#autohiding-fvwmbuttons-or-other-windows For everything else such as a Start button and a clock is achievable through FvwmButtons. > And while we're at it, here's a list of other Fvwm modules important for > me: > >FvwmAuto Present. >FvwmConsole Present. >FvwmForm Killed. >FvwmIdent Present. >FvwmPager Present. >FvwmWinlist Dead. > Are all of these still available in Fvwm 2.6.9 and not yet deprecated? You'll hate Fvwm3. -- Thomas
Re: FVWM: No module "FvwmTaskBar" in Fvwm 2.6.9?
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020, at 6:35 AM, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > - and most importantly it automatically hides. > > While I think I could also provide the buttons via module "FvwmButtons" > and could use a separate digital clock application, I did neither find > an "AutoHide" specification for "FvwmIconMan" nor for "FvwmButtons". > > And auto hiding of the taskbar is crucial for my various fullscreen app- > lications running each in a separate desktop page. > > Any suggestions? There is a template for how to autohide something in the faq on the fvwm website, towards the bottom of the list. Mark
Re: FVWM: No module "FvwmTaskBar" in Fvwm 2.6.9?
On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 7:57 AM Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > Greetings, > > Question: What has become of "FvwmTaskBar"? > FvwmTaskBar was removed due it being buggy and having additional options. Use FvwmButtons + FvwmIconMan instead. Here is an example: https://www.fvwm.org/Wiki/Panels/FvwmTaskBar/ In general FvwmTaskBar is limiting compared to what you can do with FvwmButtons + FvwmIconMan, you just now have to build your own panel using other tools. jaimos
