Re: Confusion about the different update files from Apple (including Java)

2008-10-18 Thread RediG3-5
On Oct 16, 8:56 pm, Kris Tilford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: of $99 1 TB HDs (10ยข per GB) There's a $99 TB HD available? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5

Re: Confusion about the different update files from Apple (including Java)

2008-10-17 Thread Dan
At 7:47 PM -0700 10/16/2008, Paul wrote: The Java updates are large, but seem to be incremental, with later updates requiring earlier updates to be installed. hum. Thought they were monolithic. I have other questions about Java: 1. What version should I have on an OS 10.4.11 installation.

Re: Confusion about the different update files from Apple (including Java)

2008-10-17 Thread Kris Tilford
On Oct 17, 2008, at 1:17 AM, Dan wrote: The latest Java for Mac OS X 10.4 is release 7. The actual build is: Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_16- b06-275) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_16-132, mixed mode) And for Leopard it's: Java For Mac OS X

Re: Confusion about the different update files from Apple (including Java)

2008-10-17 Thread Dan
At 2:10 AM -0500 10/17/2008, Kris Tilford wrote: This gets complicated, since these should be identical versions, but differently compiled for Tiger and Leopard. yes. Big disparity growing T vs L... Much of the issue is within Xcode (Apple's development package). In addition to big framework

Re: Confusion about the different update files from Apple (including Java)

2008-10-17 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 17, 2008, at 12:10 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: I don't think that Apple should abandon Panther users so quickly. While 8.75+ years may be slightly excessive time to support an OS, roughly 3 years is too short I think? Sadly, it's not likely. You remember how big a change 10.1 to 10.2

Re: Confusion about the different update files from Apple (including Java)

2008-10-17 Thread Al Poulin
On Oct 17, 2008, at 4:19 AM, g3-5-list group wrote: == 2 of 5 == Date: Thurs, Oct 16 2008 8:56 pm From: Kris Tilford This is all correct I believe, except the OS X update statement you can take your pick when you download, depending on how much updating you want to do. If you've been

Confusion about the different update files from Apple (including Java)

2008-10-16 Thread Paul
I want to confirm my impression of how 3 different kinds of update work: 1. Security Update 2. OS X Update 3. Java update The Security Update seems to be a large file that is only available as a cumulative update, so all previous versions are superseded. The OS X updates seem to come in two

Re: Confusion about the different update files from Apple (including Java)

2008-10-16 Thread Kris Tilford
On Oct 16, 2008, at 9:47 PM, Paul wrote: I want to confirm my impression of how 3 different kinds of update work: 1. Security Update 2. OS X Update 3. Java update The Security Update seems to be a large file that is only available as a cumulative update, so all previous versions are