Re: How to test PRAM battery?

2011-02-11 Thread Geke
Yersinia wrote: > Does this mean that if a Mac's problem can indeed be traced to a malfunctioning (for whatever reason) PRAM battery and you buy a new one that tests good (with a voltmeter) and THAT doesn't fix it you might as well give up on that Mac and use or sell it for parts? In principle, y

Re: How to test PRAM battery?

2011-02-10 Thread John Carmonne
On Feb 2, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: > > On Feb 2, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Yersinia wrote: > >> On 2/2/11 11:12 AM, John Carmonne wrote: >>> >>> >>> I have the problem even with brand new ones mostly in PowerBooks, G3's and >>> TiBooks. >> Oh, my. Does this mean that if a Mac's p

Re: How to test PRAM battery?

2011-02-02 Thread Doug McNutt
When messing with dry cells - batteries if there is more than one - pay a lot of attention to the mounting parts. A cell may test good with a voltmeter but it may not make a good connection with the springy metal parts in its holder. Those cells are very lightly loaded as used in the computer.

Re: How to test PRAM battery?

2011-02-02 Thread Deiniol ap Deiniol
On Feb 2, 10:55 pm, "Tina K." wrote: > On 2011/02/02 15:53, J.M.P.Hissel so eloquently wrote: > > > On 02-02-2011 21:14, Yersinia,yersi...@myfairpoint.net, wrote: > > >> >  and you buy a new one that tests good (with a voltmeter) > > No, a voltmeter is useless! You'll need a battery-tester (10/1

Re: How to test PRAM battery?

2011-02-02 Thread Tina K.
On 2011/02/02 15:53, J.M.P.Hissel so eloquently wrote: On 02-02-2011 21:14, Yersinia,yersi...@myfairpoint.net, wrote: > and you buy a new one that tests good (with a voltmeter) No, a voltmeter is useless! You'll need a battery-tester (10/15 $/€ ?)! I believe Jo is correct. A voltmeter tests

Re: How to test PRAM battery?

2011-02-02 Thread J.M.P.Hissel
On 02-02-2011 21:14, Yersinia, yersi...@myfairpoint.net, wrote: > and you buy a new one that tests good (with a voltmeter) No, a voltmeter is useless! You'll need a battery-tester (10/15 $/€ ?)! HTH, Jo Hissel -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for

Re: How to test PRAM battery?

2011-02-02 Thread J.M.P.Hissel
On 02-02-2011 17:12, John Carmonne, carmo...@aol.com, wrote: > I have the problem even with brand new ones mostly in PowerBooks, > G3's and TiBooks. Perhaps the "brand new ones" are simply to old! For example: A few weeks ago, I got for free 12 cards, each having 12 x 3v Lithium CR2330 batteries,

Re: How to test PRAM battery?

2011-02-02 Thread Bill Connelly
On Feb 2, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Yersinia wrote: On 2/2/11 11:12 AM, John Carmonne wrote: I have the problem even with brand new ones mostly in PowerBooks, G3's and TiBooks. Oh, my. Does this mean that if a Mac's problem can indeed be traced to a malfunctioning (for whatever reason) PRAM b

Re: How to test PRAM battery?

2011-02-02 Thread Yersinia
On 2/2/11 11:12 AM, John Carmonne wrote: On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Feb 2, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: There's no way that I'm aware of. Maybe somebody else will chime in. Jeff Engle I've heard even though it may test at full voltage, if it's old and

Re: How to test PRAM battery?

2011-02-02 Thread peterhaas
> Be aware that a DVM or DMM has an internal battery (actually, one or > more), and that the DVM/DMM battery is also part of the "reference" > circuit for computation of voltage (and resistance and possibly other > measurements, but primarily voltage and resistance) and a worn-out > internal batte

Re: How to test PRAM battery?

2011-02-02 Thread John Carmonne
On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Feb 2, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: There's no way that I'm aware of. Maybe somebody else will chime in. Jeff Engle I've heard even though it may test at full voltage, if it's old and used somewhat, it may not stay at that

Re: How to test PRAM battery?

2011-02-02 Thread peterhaas
> I have Macs that have new and good PRAM batteries but a lot of times the > machines act like the PRAM battery is bad. Is there a AHT or something > like one that tests that section of the machine and system? It always > seems to be a crap shoot as to weather the PMU or battery is bad, A volt > m

Re: How to test PRAM battery?

2011-02-02 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 2, 2011, at 6:55 AM, John Carmonne wrote: > A volt meter will quickly test the battery but mining one can be a PITA. Sadly this is the only way. It's a battery, use a battery tester. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions d

Re: How to test PRAM battery?

2011-02-02 Thread Bill Connelly
On Feb 2, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: There's no way that I'm aware of. Maybe somebody else will chime in. Jeff Engle I've heard even though it may test at full voltage, if it's old and used somewhat, it may not stay at that level when used, or not be at its best ... whateve

Re: How to test PRAM battery?

2011-02-02 Thread Jeffrey Engle
On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:55 AM, John Carmonne wrote: > I have Macs that have new and good PRAM batteries but a lot of times the > machines act like the PRAM battery is bad. Is there a AHT or something like > one that tests that section of the machine and system? It always seems to be > a crap shoo

How to test PRAM battery?

2011-02-02 Thread John Carmonne
I have Macs that have new and good PRAM batteries but a lot of times the machines act like the PRAM battery is bad. Is there a AHT or something like one that tests that section of the machine and system? It always seems to be a crap shoot as to weather the PMU or battery is bad, A volt meter wil