Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-17 Thread Nestamicky
On Jun 16, 2009, at 9:07 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: PPC, G3, G4, G5, Someone may have answered this, but which version, of the 7450 or 7400, should I get from RPM for a Titanium G4. I relent, I'd try this build and see if my horrible internet video playback is improved on this 400 Mhzm 1GB

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-17 Thread Nestamicky
On Jun 16, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Dan wrote: Note that once you've hit the system and apps with this tool, they are forever damaged. This is a very very very important thing to know about Monolingual. If you're installing your OS with the disk, why can't people just simply use the advance

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-17 Thread Dan
At 6:56 AM -0600 6/17/2009, Nestamicky wrote: which version, of the 7450 or 7400, should I get from RPM http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/whichbuildforme/ - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-17 Thread Dan
Title: Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4 At 7:00 AM -0600 6/17/2009, Nestamicky wrote: On Jun 16, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Dan wrote: Note that once you've hit the system and apps with this tool, they are forever damaged. This is a very very very important thing to know about Monolingual

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-17 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 17, 2009, at 6:00 AM, Nestamicky wrote: On Jun 16, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Dan wrote: Note that once you've hit the system and apps with this tool, they are forever damaged. This is a very very very important thing to know about Monolingual. If you're installing your OS with the disk,

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-17 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 17, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Manually stripping the extra language resources from TextEdit cut it down to 1.9 mb. A long time ago (meaning I don't know if this is currently true, I hope not?) I manually striped the language resources from Webkit and it destroyed

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-17 Thread Dan
At 2:53 PM -0500 6/17/2009, Kris Tilford wrote: A long time ago (meaning I don't know if this is currently true, I hope not?) I manually striped the language resources from Webkit and it destroyed the ability to search within Safari, and some versions wouldn't even launch after removal of

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-16 Thread Lawrence David Eden
RPM has posted her builds of the latest Firefox 3.0.11. Note that the Moz developers have finally updated the app names, so they build correctly. Only official builds are allowed to use the Firefox name. All others, like these 3rd party optimized builds, are required to use the code names.

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-16 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 16, 2009, at 5:12 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: How are the above mentioned builds different from the version that Firefox automatically updated my BW to? They lack the code for any processor type other than the CPU for which they are optimised (British spelling of RPMs page). They

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-16 Thread Dan
At 5:21 AM -0500 6/16/2009, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jun 16, 2009, at 5:12 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: How are the above mentioned builds different from the version that Firefox automatically updated my BW to? The generic builds, provided by the Mozilla team, are compiled for use on all

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 16, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Dan wrote: If you're really short on HD space they may save a few MB, but running Monolingual can extract the non-CPU specific code also, so there are two ways to skin this cat. Monolingual does NOT remove code. It strips out alternate language resources

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-16 Thread Dan
At 10:47 AM -0700 6/16/2009, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jun 16, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Dan wrote: If you're really short on HD space they may save a few MB, but running Monolingual can extract the non-CPU specific code also, so there are two ways to skin this cat. Monolingual does NOT remove

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-16 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 16, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Dan wrote: Monolingual does NOT remove powerpc model-specific code (the subject of this thread). Monolingual DOES remove PPC model-specific code. There is a check box for each CPU: PPC, G3, G4, G4 and Intel. I just removed EVERYTHING except G3 from my 500MHz

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-16 Thread joan
Am I able to download the opitmized build if I have a 867 dual G4 PowerPC? I don't know what the 7400 or 7450 is referring to. On Jun 15, 2:04 pm, joan jn...@q.com wrote: a link or just what is RPMs page? On Jun 15, 1:32 pm, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: Dan wrote: Optimized

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-16 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 16, 2009, at 3:56 PM, joan wrote: Am I able to download the opitmized build if I have a 867 dual G4 PowerPC? I don't know what the 7400 or 7450 is referring to. It's two different types of G4 CPU. The early G4 were 7400, later were 7450. Your 867 dual is 7450.

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-16 Thread Dan
At 2:40 PM -0500 6/16/2009, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jun 16, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Dan wrote: Monolingual does NOT remove powerpc model-specific code (the subject of this thread). Monolingual DOES remove PPC model-specific code. There is a check box for each CPU: PPC, G3, G4, G4 and Intel. Ok.

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-16 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 16, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Dan wrote: There is a check box for each CPU: PPC, G3, G4, G4 and Intel. Ok. I sit corrected. :) You could have, and have, correct me many times :) I meant: PPC, G3, G4, G5, and Intel, not two G4's. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You

Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-15 Thread Dan
RPM has posted her builds of the latest Firefox 3.0.11. Note that the Moz developers have finally updated the app names, so they build correctly. Only official builds are allowed to use the Firefox name. All others, like these 3rd party optimized builds, are required to use the code names.

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-15 Thread nestamicky
Dan wrote: Optimized builds of Camino, SeaMonkey, and Thunderbird are also available on RPM's page. Do you have a link, Dan? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3,

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-15 Thread joan
a link or just what is RPMs page? On Jun 15, 1:32 pm, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: Dan wrote: Optimized builds of Camino, SeaMonkey, and Thunderbird are also available on RPM's page. Do you have a link, Dan? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-15 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:32 PM, nestamicky wrote: Do you have a link, Dan? Here's a link, but honestly, you should learn to use Google. I'd never heard of this before, and it took me 10 seconds to find the link. So you'll know, I searched the terms: rpm optimized seamonkey. It wasn't the

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-15 Thread Dan
At 3:08 PM -0500 6/15/2009, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:32 PM, nestamicky wrote: Do you have a link, Dan? d'oh. I can't believe I left it out. :( Sorry 'bout that. http://www.rpm-mozilla.org.uk/ Thx Kris. Addendum: The file service that RPM is using has set their

Re: [G3-5]Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-15 Thread MaGioZal
On 6/15/09 12:33 PM, Dan at dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Optimized builds of Camino, SeaMonkey, and Thunderbird are also available on RPM's page. Where's the URL? -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/photos/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this

Re: [G3-5]Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-15 Thread Dan
At 11:15 PM -0300 6/15/2009, MaGioZal wrote: On 6/15/09 12:33 PM, Dan at dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Optimized builds of Camino, SeaMonkey, and Thunderbird are also available on RPM's page. Where's the URL? See Kris' reply, posted 5 hours ago. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South

Re: [G3-5]Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-15 Thread MaGioZal
On 6/15/09 11:27 PM, Dan at dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Where's the URL? See Kris' reply, posted 5 hours ago. Sorry, I read abou it after posting the reply... -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message