Re: News: half a million Macs now infected with malware?

2012-04-15 Thread Frank J. R. Hanstick
Hello, I have a MacOS 10.5 machine (dual 1.73 GHz PowerPC G4) with a MacOS 10.4 backup drive. What would like me to look at? On Apr 14, 2012, at 2:42 AM, Douglas Mencken wrote: AFAIK there is no 10.4 version (I would love to be proven wrong), and there is no browser plugin. But it would

Re: News: half a million Macs now infected with malware?

2012-04-15 Thread Frank J. R. Hanstick
Hello, I tried installing on my 10.5 PPC via MacPorts and it does not like the CPU. On Apr 15, 2012, at 12:08 AM, Frank J. R. Hanstick wrote: Hello, I have a MacOS 10.5 machine (dual 1.73 GHz PowerPC G4) with a MacOS 10.4 backup drive. What would like me to look at? On Apr 14, 2012,

Re: News: half a million Macs now infected with malware?

2012-04-15 Thread Douglas Mencken
Hello,        I tried installing on my 10.5 PPC via MacPorts and it does not like the CPU. Ooops. Looks like they didn't provide bootstrap OpenJDK binaries for PowerPC. And OpenJDK requires OpenJDK to be built. Chicken-and-egg issue. Fortunately, we do have this:

Re: News: half a million Macs now infected with malware?

2012-04-15 Thread Frank J. R. Hanstick
Hello, Is there a maintainer for MacPorts JDK6 so that filing a bug report will be responded to? On Apr 15, 2012, at 3:23 AM, Douglas Mencken wrote: Hello, I tried installing on my 10.5 PPC via MacPorts and it does not like the CPU. Ooops. Looks like they didn't provide

Re: News: half a million Macs now infected with malware?

2012-04-14 Thread Douglas Mencken
AFAIK there is no 10.4 version (I would love to be proven wrong), and there is no browser plugin. But it would suffice for true Java apps, at least. Correct. http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/2009/05/17 Maintainer says that ``My ability to provide 10.4 support is constrained without access to a

Re: News: half a million Macs now infected with malware?

2012-04-12 Thread Al Poulin
On Apr 11, 7:54 am, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: I've heard of zero people that have tested positive for this malware. Security company sales benefit from scare tactics and over-estimation. It does NOT affect any PPC Macs because this malware code is Intel-only. G3-5 list is for

Re: News: half a million Macs now infected with malware?

2012-04-12 Thread Cameron Kaiser
unclear is whether the Java exploit being used is present in older versions of Java or not. If they are, the targeting PPC macs is relatively simple for the bad guys. If not then PPC macs are ok. The vulnerability *IS* present in older versions of Java.

Re: News: half a million Macs now infected with malware?

2012-04-12 Thread Douglas Mencken
By not releasing Java updates for Leopard and older, Apple has screwed both ppc and x86 users. You can get OpenJDK7 from mac ports or fink. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power

Re: News: half a million Macs now infected with malware?

2012-04-12 Thread Cameron Kaiser
The Flashback trojan uses an exploit to break through the sandbox and execute Java-based malware with privileges, so the *exploit will work on PPC* because it is Java that is executing with privileges, *not* native machine code. What is not clear is what happens next. If the binary that is

Re: News: half a million Macs now infected with malware?

2012-04-12 Thread Cameron Kaiser
By not releasing Java updates for Leopard and older, Apple has screwed both ppc and x86 users. You can get OpenJDK7 from mac ports or fink. AFAIK there is no 10.4 version (I would love to be proven wrong), and there is no browser plugin. But it would suffice for true Java apps, at least.

Re: News: half a million Macs now infected with malware?

2012-04-11 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 5-04-2012 20:04, Tom ha scritto: According to this news story on the Drudge website http://tinyurl.com/ 6wgysep, half a million Apple computers are infected with malware, a trojan disguised as a flash update Here's an article/FAQ on CNET about it:

Re: News: half a million Macs now infected with malware?

2012-04-11 Thread Kris Tilford
I've heard of zero people that have tested positive for this malware. Security company sales benefit from scare tactics and over-estimation. It does NOT affect any PPC Macs because this malware code is Intel-only. G3-5 list is for PPC Macs, so let's call this thread closed. -- You received

Re: News: half a million Macs now infected with malware?

2012-04-09 Thread Al Poulin
On Apr 8, 6:49 pm, Anne Keller-Smith earth...@ptd.net wrote: so i'm running 10.5.8, that's leopard, does that mean i don't have the new java that accepts flashback? Anne: Not necessarily. It is possible that the original Java Runtime (distinct from Javascript) in Leopard was upgraded to Java

Re: News: half a million Macs now infected with malware?

2012-04-08 Thread Anne Keller-Smith
so i'm running 10.5.8, that's leopard, does that mean i don't have the new java that accepts flashback? i did run Malware Checker from the Apple Site that said no trojan :@D On Apr 6, 2012, at 9:00 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: Java was only used to download and execute native x86 binaries.

News: half a million Macs now infected with malware?

2012-04-06 Thread Tom
According to this news story on the Drudge website http://tinyurl.com/ 6wgysep, half a million Apple computers are infected with malware, a trojan disguised as a flash update, that allows other people to hijack the computer. They don't say what OS is involved, or whether every Mac OS is at risk.

Re: News: half a million Macs now infected with malware?

2012-04-06 Thread JohnV
On Apr 5, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Tom wrote: According to this news story on the Drudge website http:// tinyurl.com/ 6wgysep, half a million Apple computers are infected with malware, a trojan disguised as a flash update, that allows other people to hijack the computer. They don't say what OS is

Re: News: half a million Macs now infected with malware?

2012-04-06 Thread Douglas Mencken
They were x86 macs. No reason to worry. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at

Re: News: half a million Macs now infected with malware?

2012-04-06 Thread Dan
At 1:38 PM -0400 4/6/2012, Douglas Mencken wrote: They were x86 macs. Yes, some were. But that's all we know. There has been no break-down of the data, or even a release of their raw data, gathered by that russian company. No reason to worry. The vulnerability exists in previous Java

Re: News: half a million Macs now infected with malware?

2012-04-06 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Apr 6, 2012, at 10:38 AM, Douglas Mencken wrote: They were x86 macs. No reason to worry. Yes reason to worry. Java's an interpreted language that gets compiled to a universal p-code style executable; the underlying platform doesn't matter. There are indications that older versions of Java

Re: News: half a million Macs now infected with malware?

2012-04-06 Thread Douglas Mencken
Java's an interpreted language that gets compiled ... Thanks, Captain :) There are indications that older versions of Java aren't as vulnerable, but again, this has nothing to do with the underlying architecture. Java was only used to download and execute native x86 binaries. -- You

Re: News: half a million Macs now infected with malware?

2012-04-06 Thread Dan
At 11:04 AM -0700 4/5/2012, Tom wrote: According to this news story on the Drudge website http://tinyurl.com/ 6wgysep, half a million Apple computers are infected with malware, a trojan disguised as a flash update, that allows other people to hijack the computer. They don't say what OS is

Re: News: half a million Macs now infected with malware?

2012-04-06 Thread Cameron Kaiser
Java was only used to download and execute native x86 binaries. Citation needed, and even if that were presently the case, that doesn't mean they couldn't throw a Universal binary together. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser *