Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-06 Thread Clark Martin
On 3/5/10 9:56 PM, Peter Kim wrote: I remember trying to get 1.5 Mb/s DSL 7 years ago, through SBC, now ATT, in suburban Chicago. I found out that I was too far away from the new optical fiber install, and had to settle for 768/256Kbs- the houses across the street could get up to 3 Mb/s. Ugh,

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-06 Thread John Carmonne
On Mar 6, 2010, at 12:16 AM, Clark Martin wrote: On 3/5/10 9:56 PM, Peter Kim wrote: I remember trying to get 1.5 Mb/s DSL 7 years ago, through SBC, now ATT, in suburban Chicago. I found out that I was too far away from the new optical fiber install, and had to settle for 768/256Kbs- the

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-05 Thread Carmonne
In a message dated 3/5/10 7:22:17 AM, dantear...@gmail.com writes: At 2:23 PM -0800 3/4/2010, John Carmonne wrote: Notice there's not much help for upload probably an FCC thing to keep the licensee's pockets heavier. Nothing to do with the FCC. This is because the older copper and coax

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-05 Thread Dan
At 12:14 PM -0500 3/5/2010, carmo...@aol.com wrote: Newer technologies are changing all this. FTTH (Fiber to the Home) is a symmetrical service, limited only by the quality of the repeaters, routers, and backhaul. And DOCSIS 3 permits much higher upstream, so it can be configured to seem

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-05 Thread nestamicky
On 3/5/2010 10:31 AM, Dan wrote: Multi-dwelling units are a whole other ball of wax; a magnitude beyond political stupidity. Landlords like to extort service providers, make them pay for access, er a give kickbacks, etc. It ain't pretty, and all it does is cost the consumers more and more.

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-05 Thread Peter Kim
I have not priced Ethernet routers recently, but I paid a similar amount for my Asante many years ago and still use it. I've seen many of my friends' cheap Linksys routers get trashed since, so you get what you pay for. If you're concerned about speed, run the ethernet cable, or get a wireless

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-05 Thread Dan
At 10:57 AM -0700 3/5/2010, nestamicky wrote: Most people in Japan, for example, would think it insane that people are still paying for dial-up, in 2010, in the US. What are we thinking? We happen to give corporate profits higher moral/ethical value than any sort of consumer or national

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-05 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Mar 5, 2010, at 12:02 PM, Dan wrote: At 10:57 AM -0700 3/5/2010, nestamicky wrote: Most people in Japan, for example, would think it insane that people are still paying for dial-up, in 2010, in the US. What are we thinking? We happen to give corporate profits higher moral/ethical

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-05 Thread nestamicky
On 3/5/2010 12:47 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Look how the ISPs went ballistic over cities threatening to set up their own WiFi broadband...they spent millions buying state legislatures to ban the practice. And that is perhaps a great example of how amassing personal/business profit is retarding

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-05 Thread John Musbach
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 3:21 PM, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: This nonsense, in America, in 2010...WTF? Yeah well, America is no longer the land of the free and prosperous--it's corporate America. Corporations drive America's innovations, it's for this same reason that we're never going

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-05 Thread Kasey Smith
Our Internet here in rural Idaho is symmetrical. Its our local ISP's wireless service, the DSL here is asymmetrical though, but that doesn't matter as we cant get DSL at our house, but people no more than a quarter of a mile away can. On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:22:11 -0600, Dan

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-05 Thread John Callahan
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Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-05 Thread Kris Tilford
On Mar 5, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: we can't get DSL at our house, but people no more than a quarter of a mile away can. The phone companies can tell you that you're not eligible for DSL when you may be eligible. Under common carrier laws, the phone companies are supposed to

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-05 Thread Kasey Smith
Well, im glad i dont have DSL anyway, my download is only half as fast as DSL (it has 768, i have 512k) but my upload is twice as fast (256k vs 512k) so I'm happy :D On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:12:33 -0600, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Mar 5, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: we

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-05 Thread Clark Martin
On 3/5/10 5:12 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Mar 5, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: we can't get DSL at our house, but people no more than a quarter of a mile away can. The phone companies can tell you that you're not eligible for DSL when you may be eligible. Under common carrier laws,

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-05 Thread John Musbach
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Mar 5, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: we can't get DSL at our house, but people no more than a quarter of a mile away can. The phone companies can tell you that you're not eligible for DSL when you may be

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-05 Thread Dan
At 7:12 PM -0600 3/5/2010, Kris Tilford wrote: On Mar 5, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: we can't get DSL at our house, but people no more than a quarter of a mile away can. The phone companies can tell you that you're not eligible for DSL when you may be eligible. The issue is the

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-05 Thread Kasey Smith
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:54:18 -0600, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 7:12 PM -0600 3/5/2010, Kris Tilford wrote: On Mar 5, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: we can't get DSL at our house, but people no more than a quarter of a mile away can. The phone companies can tell you that

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-05 Thread Peter Kim
I remember trying to get 1.5 Mb/s DSL 7 years ago, through SBC, now ATT, in suburban Chicago. I found out that I was too far away from the new optical fiber install, and had to settle for 768/256Kbs- the houses across the street could get up to 3 Mb/s. Ugh, I can't believe we're still talking

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-04 Thread John Carmonne
On Mar 2, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 2, 2010, at 6:49 AM, John Carmonne wrote: The router is OK, however I would use a USB wireless n dongle. The AirPort b card is real slow unless all you want is e-mail and surf the net, downloads are just a little quicker than

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-04 Thread Clark Martin
On 3/4/10 2:23 PM, John Carmonne wrote: UpDate This is what I found and why I stated that the AirPort and AirMac b cards are slower. Also all these machines are in the same 700 SFT condo, no pipes or such. However I should've also stated that I choose the Gigabit wireless more for file transfer

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-03 Thread Kasey Smith
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: The VAST MAJORITY of broadband access in this country is about 7 MB/s. In most of the country Broadband tops out at 12 mbps. The fastest I can get here at my house in rural Idaho is 4mb, currently we have 512kb

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-02 Thread John Carmonne
On Mar 2, 2010, at 5:40 AM, icanswing wrote: Hi list, I have a new imac. Now I want to set up my G4 in another room. My G4 doesn't have an airport card and I don't believe it would work anyway cause the new imac has airport extreme and the G4's airport card is just an airport. I was

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-02 Thread icanswing
John, How does that work?  I just hook it up to a USB connection on my G4 (that doesn't have an airport card)? On Mar 2, 2010, at 7:49:30 AM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: From: John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com Subject:Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet Date: March 2

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-02 Thread John Carmonne
help with setting up G4 for internet Date: March 2, 2010 7:49:30 AM CST To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com On Mar 2, 2010, at 5:40 AM, icanswing wrote: Hi list, I have a new imac. Now I want to set up my G4 in another room. My G4 doesn't have an airport card and I don't believe it would

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-02 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Mar 2, 2010, at 6:49 AM, John Carmonne wrote: The router is OK, however I would use a USB wireless n dongle. The AirPort b card is real slow unless all you want is e-mail and surf the net, downloads are just a little quicker than dialup. You're joking, right? 802.11b is 11Mb/s. It's

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-02 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Mar 2, 2010, at 6:40 AM, icanswing wrote: Hi list, I have a new imac. Now I want to set up my G4 in another room. My G4 doesn't have an airport card and I don't believe it would work anyway cause the new imac has airport extreme and the G4's airport card is just an airport. It

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-02 Thread Carmonne
In a message dated 3/2/10 8:08:05 AM, john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu writes: On Mar 2, 2010, at 6:49 AM, John Carmonne wrote: The router is OK, however I would use a USB wireless n dongle. The  AirPort b card is real slow unless all you want is e-mail and surf  the net, downloads are

Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

2010-03-02 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Mar 2, 2010, at 12:29 PM, carmo...@aol.com wrote: No joke, I've tested all my wireless conections with Speakeasy and the b cards are slower than the second comming. What is your test rig? Distance to the WAP? Signal level? Speakeasy measures far more than your local network link's