Re: rich text problem

2011-03-19 Thread Sean Carroll
My apologies for being stupid(er than usual). I see that Mail indeed offers message viewing control under PreferencesFonts Colors (set it so long ago I forgot where it was), and I am undoubtedly quite mistaken - memory fails me - that Outlook Express offered anything more under OS 9.

Re: rich text problem

2011-03-19 Thread Doug McNutt
At 18:37 -0500 3/19/11, Sean Carroll wrote: A bit odd that Mail doesn't directly offer the option to view all messages as plain text. As far as I can tell. I haven't tried it but. . . . defaults write is a command to be executed in terminal.app And you might want to try: defaults read

Re: rich text problem

2011-03-19 Thread Kris Tilford
On Mar 19, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Sean Carroll wrote: A bit odd that Mail doesn't directly offer the option to view all messages as plain text. As far as I can tell. The problem isn't in the receiving end, it's in the creation end. You'll need to go to MailPreferenceComposing

Re: rich text problem

2011-03-18 Thread Dan
At 9:56 PM -0600 3/17/2011, Alex Barnes wrote: At least there's not flash emails going around (although I can see us headed there)! Go wash your brain out with soap. /me shudders, and does a horrified squishy face, as he staggers off to the kitchen - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South

Re: rich text problem

2011-03-18 Thread Robert MacLeay
On Mar 17, 9:48 pm, Doug McNutt dougl...@macnauchtan.com wrote: -- Give me liberty or give me Obamacare -- Snarky political comments are NOT appropriate to this list. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a

Re: rich text problem

2011-03-18 Thread Alex Barnes
I like it. Do you mind if I use it? -- Give me liberty or give me Obamacare -- Snarky political comments are NOT appropriate to this list. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on

Re: rich text problem

2011-03-18 Thread Andy
On 18/03/2011 14:50PM, Robert MacLeay rmacl...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 17, 9:48 pm, Doug McNutt dougl...@macnauchtan.com wrote: -- Give me liberty or give me Obamacare -- Snarky political comments are NOT appropriate to this list. It was a signature, it's allowed. You don't have to agree with

Re: rich text problem

2011-03-17 Thread Alex Barnes
Why does anyone care about rich text/plain text. This isn't the 90's anymore! If your computer can't read rich text then you need to do some serious updates! My PowerBook 1400 can read rich text on Gmail's website! Why can't the list managers make some kind of a rich text block on the lists

Re: rich text problem

2011-03-17 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: Why does anyone care about rich text/plain text. This isn't the 90's anymore! If your computer can't read rich text then you need to do some serious updates! My PowerBook 1400 can read rich text on Gmail's website!

Re: rich text problem

2011-03-17 Thread Alex Barnes
Oh. So is that why the nannies say no to rich text? http://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/miscjunk/ihatehtmlmail.pdf If you can't state your problem with your words, all the ransom-note typography and hopping smileys will not help your case. -- You received this message because you are a

Re: rich text problem

2011-03-17 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:31 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: Oh. So is that why the nannies say no to rich text? You'll have to ask them. It's a long-standing rule on the LEM lists, and frankly, I've rarely seen any instance where rich text adds any useful information, and when you have a mashed up

Re: rich text problem

2011-03-17 Thread Dan
At 12:31 PM -0500 3/17/2011, Alex Barnes wrote: [top posting, yadda yadda yadda] http://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/miscjunk/ihatehtmlmail.pdf If you can't state your problem with your words, all the ransom-note typography and hopping smileys will not help your case. Oh. So is that why the

Re: rich text problem

2011-03-17 Thread Alex Barnes
I use Mail in 10.6 but I have it set to display rich text. Now I see why it's hated. On Mar 17, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:31 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: Oh. So is that why the nannies say no to rich text? You'll have to ask them. It's a long-standing

Re: rich text problem

2011-03-17 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: I use Mail in 10.6 but I have it set to display rich text. Now I see why it's hated. Do this: Quit Mail. Open terminal, and enter the following: defaults write com.apple.mail PreferPlainText -bool TRUE Start Mail again. Now your eyes, in

Re: rich text problem

2011-03-17 Thread Kris Tilford
On Mar 17, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Alex Barnes wrote: Why does anyone care about rich text/plain text. People that care use correct grammar and punctuation. They also tend to bottom post or interleave their replies because they believe top posting is rude. Bruce has posted a good example of

Re: rich text problem

2011-03-17 Thread Alex Barnes
Ok... I won't use read I'll use display. Sounds like you've done some serious updating if your PowerBook 1400 has a consciousness and can read. My computers lack consciousness and are limited to dumb tricks like being able to display rich text, or synthesize speech from text. I'd love to

Re: rich text problem

2011-03-17 Thread Sean Carroll
In response to the OP's comment about slipping up and getting reprimanded, what I do: In MailPreferencesComposing, I set the message format to Plain Text. I do this specifically for the G-list (although I could certainly set up a special account with this preference only for LEM list mail

Re: rich text problem

2011-03-17 Thread Dan
At 9:31 PM -0500 3/17/2011, Sean Carroll wrote: A long time ago, I thought the problem with rich text/HTML mail (synonymous terms?) Rich text is text marked up with HTML. was how mail servers handled it. Never had anything to do with the mail servers. Mail servers simply pass along

Re: rich text problem

2011-03-17 Thread Sean Carroll
The original idea of rich text was that it would support only simple markup, a limited number of tags. Then, as I understand it, MS got involved and suddenly it was full-on HTML with all sorts of MS specific malformations and such. Aha. (Thanks for the other clarifications as well.) Now

Re: rich text problem

2011-03-17 Thread Doug McNutt
At 22:53 -0400 3/17/11, Dan wrote: At 9:31 PM -0500 3/17/2011, Sean Carroll wrote: A long time ago, I thought the problem with rich text/HTML mail (synonymous terms?) Rich text is text marked up with HTML. Practically true so long as the discussion is limited to mail; Two possible

Re: rich text problem

2011-03-17 Thread Alex Barnes
At least there's not flash emails going around (although I can see us headed there)! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at