Please unsubscribe
Hello I set free my older Macs and have a new MacBook. Your Group has been great. Please unsubscribe me. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Please unsubscribe
On Sep 22, 2009, at 5:41 AM, Jim Snyder wrote: Hello I set free my older Macs and have a new MacBook. Your Group has been great. Please unsubscribe me. Thanks! Please visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list and there is an option to Edit my Membership. That is where you will find an unsubscribe option. Len Gerstel List Nanny --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Please unsubscribe
Dear Len, sorrily i want to follow Jim. But I did not found the link - or it just did not work. I received 50 or more messages a day, only one or two were interesting, too much chatting. If you can, please set me free. Lars On Sep 22, 2009, at 5:41 AM, Jim Snyder wrote: Hello I set free my older Macs and have a new MacBook. Your Group has been great. Please unsubscribe me. Thanks! Please visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list and there is an option to Edit my Membership. That is where you will find an unsubscribe option. Len Gerstel List Nanny --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues
On 9/21/09 8:05 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: still can't find the Minefield build. Any ideas...? http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/ Thanks Kris, but I found it later and found out that it does not support PPC. Or, did I find the wrong version? Does it support PPC? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues
On Sep 22, 2009, at 9:14 AM, Nestamicky wrote: On 9/21/09 8:05 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: still can't find the Minefield build. Any ideas...? http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/ Thanks Kris, but I found it later and found out that it does not support PPC. Or, did I find the wrong version? Does it support PPC? That build page has very specific PPC builds listed, not a general PPC. A G3, 2 G4s (for 7400 and 7450 based chips), a G5 and an intel build. Since the main Firefox community does not currently build or develop for OS9, there are no 601, 603 or 604 builds. Here are the links for todays builds G3 http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/builds/G3/FXG3-3.6b1pre-2009.09.22.dmg G4 7400 http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/builds/7400/FX7400-3.6b1pre-2009.09.22.dmg G4 7450 http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/builds/7450/FX7450-3.7a1pre-2009.09.22.dmg HTH, Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Please unsubscribe
On Sep 22, 2009, at 5:58 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: On Sep 22, 2009, at 5:41 AM, Jim Snyder wrote: Hello I set free my older Macs and have a new MacBook. Your Group has been great. Please unsubscribe me. Thanks! Please visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list and there is an option to Edit my Membership. That is where you will find an unsubscribe option. After you link to the group above, Login to your account. Then, one way, is: My Groups (at the top) Manage my memberships (on right at bottom of groups membership list) then Set Subscription Type. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
Hey Gus, Do you have PayPal? This card would be good for my G4 (see other posts these days about ATI Radeon) and the price is great. So if you could ask the seller to send it to Europe instead of to you, and I can pay you through PayPal (other transfers are too expensive), all can be perfect! Greetings, Geke On Sep 21, 7:13 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: pdimage wrote: On 21/9/09 15:59, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 21, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Gus wrote: Also, I bought this card from ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120468674399 I was told this would also alleviate my video blacking problem. Unfortunately, you bought an AGP Radeon 7000. Your Beige G3 only has PCI slots. You need a PCI Radeon 7000. That card will not work or fit in your beige. Len The description is a little wayward but the card seems to be pci - see question at the bottom. The picture is PCI but the description says it's both PCI and AGP. Personally I avoid such vendors, they just don't know what they are talking about. But it's a little late for the buyer / OP. If it hasn't shipped the buyer could try clarifying it with the seller and canceling the sale if it's AGP. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
well if it is an agp card, will it work in my blue and white better than the ATI card that is in there now? Thanks! On Sep 21, 12:13 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: pdimage wrote: On 21/9/09 15:59, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 21, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Gus wrote: Also, I bought this card from ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120468674399 I was told this would also alleviate my video blacking problem. Unfortunately, you bought an AGP Radeon 7000. Your Beige G3 only has PCI slots. You need a PCI Radeon 7000. That card will not work or fit in your beige. Len The description is a little wayward but the card seems to be pci - see question at the bottom. The picture is PCI but the description says it's both PCI and AGP. Personally I avoid such vendors, they just don't know what they are talking about. But it's a little late for the buyer / OP. If it hasn't shipped the buyer could try clarifying it with the seller and canceling the sale if it's AGP. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
All I can see is that this is not an AGP card, but a PCI. The only problem could be if the seller charges high shipping costs to Europe. Greetings, Geke On Sep 22, 8:54 pm, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote: well if it is an agp card, will it work in my blue and white better than the ATI card that is in there now? Thanks! On Sep 21, 12:13 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: pdimage wrote: On 21/9/09 15:59, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 21, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Gus wrote: Also, I bought this card from ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120468674399 I was told this would also alleviate my video blacking problem. Unfortunately, you bought an AGP Radeon 7000. Your Beige G3 only has PCI slots. You need a PCI Radeon 7000. That card will not work or fit in your beige. Len The description is a little wayward but the card seems to be pci - see question at the bottom. The picture is PCI but the description says it's both PCI and AGP. Personally I avoid such vendors, they just don't know what they are talking about. But it's a little late for the buyer / OP. If it hasn't shipped the buyer could try clarifying it with the seller and canceling the sale if it's AGP. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
On Sep 22, 2009, at 2:54 PM, Gus wrote: well if it is an agp card, will it work in my blue and white better than the ATI card that is in there now? Thanks! AFAIK, B W's don't have an AGP slot, so it will not work at all. According to Mactracker, it has 4 slots, 1 of which is a 66MHz one, which is where a PCI Slot type video card would seem to work best. Find out if its a PCI card or an AGP card. According to the eBay correction, it would seem to be PCI. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
Never mind, I just opened up my G3, its a half height PCI slot... oi vey... Well, lets hope the guy knows how to hold a camera straight and that is really a pci card and not an agp. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
Sorry, please ignore my earlier postings here, I was in a hurry and confused: an auction for just such a card was finishing at the same time. It really looks to be a PCI card so you’re OK. But I suspect I will have to install a driver for it as well. Any clue where I could find such an animal? Does it come standard on the OS X DVD? Will I have to reinstall OS X to get the driver to load? Or is the driver already on my hard drive ready to run once I install the card? And to come back to your question: the card you bought is a Mac version, so OS X should recognize it and automatically install the right drivers. I expect that you can simply plug in the card, start up the Mac, and go to the System Preferences for Displays to choose the screen resolution. I was told this would also alleviate my video blacking problem. It’s your lucky day! Greetings Geke --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
Yeah, I remember seeing the correction saying that it was a PCI card and not an AGP card... NEWAYS... Will I have to hunt down drivers for this if I put it my mac, or are they already on the install CD or on the Hard Drive? Not sure how that works. Thanks!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
Oh I know what I wanted to ask.. If the ATI Rage card is a PCI card (though be a half height)(is that what they call it when its short? half height.. don't recall) anyways... Would I be better off using the Radeon card in my blue and white and shifting the ATI card over to the Beige G3 (never heard of anyone doing that...) Or does the ATI work better in the BW G3 than in the Beige G3? Never was much of a video card buff. And why do they make the video slot shorter than than the other PCI card slots? Isn't the PCI Bus a wired parallel bus where everything has to run at the same speed on the whole thing and only one card can talk at once? Name: ATY,Rage128y Type: display Bus: PCI Slot: J12 Vendor ID:0x1002 Device ID:0x5245 Subsystem Vendor ID: 0xb530 Subsystem ID: 0x0408 Revision ID: 0x Hardware Overview: Machine Name: PowerMacG3series Machine Model:PowerMac1,1 CPU Type: PowerPC 750 (2.2) Number Of CPUs: 1 CPU Speed:400 MHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 1 MB Memory: 768 MB Bus Speed:100 MHz Boot ROM Version: 1.1.1f4 Sorry to talk your ear off!! Gus. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
Small correction: I just found a nice review of this card, which also says that the drivers come on a CD with the card. Look here: http://www.giantmike.com/reviews/radeon7000.html Good luck! Geke --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Adapter for the OLD Monitors with use with VGA card.
I saw a post awhile back where someone was trying to interface an old apple monitor to a newer VGA card. Was there any resolution to that? Does anyone make an adapter for the old monitors for use with the VGA standard sockets? I know they made adapters to go from the old mac computers to use with the VGA Monitors. Never seen where they went the other way around though. Thanks so much! Gus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Video card install
Hey folks- Getting ready to replace the video card in my Quicksilver 867 (single, pre 2002) and want to make sure that it is done properly. Present card: Rage 128 Pro (16 mb) Replacement:nVidia 5200, AGP (128 mb) Please advise as to the recommended procedure. Thanks in advance, Jim McGee --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Adapter for the OLD Monitors with use with VGA card.
Are we talking about the ADC port (digital) or the Apple monitor connector (analog)? There are simple little pin adapters for the latter that are very cheap. As for converting a VGA signal to ADC, a signal conversion has to occur, not just a connector adaption. I think there was an adapter made for this, but it cost over 250$. In that case, just get a DVI videocard and the Apple ADC to DVI adapter and save yourself at least 100$. Gus wrote: I saw a post awhile back where someone was trying to interface an old apple monitor to a newer VGA card. Was there any resolution to that? Does anyone make an adapter for the old monitors for use with the VGA standard sockets? I know they made adapters to go from the old mac computers to use with the VGA Monitors. Never seen where they went the other way around though. Thanks so much! Gus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Adapter for the OLD Monitors with use with VGA card.
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=VGA+to+ADCoe=utf-8rls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-aum=1ie=UTF-8cid=1703435491493178ei=Ul25SuLEMZ-I8Aaz-tCeDwsa=Xoi=product_catalog_resultct=resultresnum=1#ps-sellers Gus wrote: I saw a post awhile back where someone was trying to interface an old apple monitor to a newer VGA card. Was there any resolution to that? Does anyone make an adapter for the old monitors for use with the VGA standard sockets? I know they made adapters to go from the old mac computers to use with the VGA Monitors. Never seen where they went the other way around though. Thanks so much! Gus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Adapter for the OLD Monitors with use with VGA card.
On 22 Sep 2009, at 15:58:56 PDT, Gus wrote: I saw a post awhile back where someone was trying to interface an old apple monitor to a newer VGA card. Was there any resolution to that? Does anyone make an adapter for the old monitors for use with the VGA standard sockets? I know they made adapters to go from the old mac computers to use with the VGA Monitors. Never seen where they went the other way around though. --- I have a couple kicking around. I think they were intended to mate an Apple notebook with a VGA connector to an external Apple monitor. Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Elgato EyeTV on a G4?
I'm moving to a much smaller apartment in March, and I won't have space for both a TV and a monitor, so I'm trying to figure out how to make one work as both. I have a dual 1Ghz MDD that I'm planning to fix up, but that doesn't have the built-in USB 2.0 that the EyeTV specs call for, just a USB 2.0 PCI card. Has anybody run an EyeTV through PCI USB 2.0? What were your results? What video card were you using? With how much VRAM? I'm trying to figure out how much money I need to put together for upgrades, above and beyond the 26 monitor/TV. Or would I be better off buying a G5?Any and all help/suggestions appreciated. Peace, Love, and Joy, SaJe Goodson Norfolk, NE 68701 i...@sajego.net ebay: stonesingersales (319/100%) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RAM
OK, MacTracker isn't telling me anything and a google search is less than helpful. Which Macs can this RAM be used in? PC2700U-25330 HYMD264646B8J-J AA 512MB DDR 333MHz CL2.5 and Apacer 96ME0311A PO# M010998A 7P.G1346.A4FH1L8025 (small sticker) == MT8LSDT1664AG-10EB1 is Micron 128MB PC100 SDRAM Memory made for desktop computer systems. Part Number: MT8LSDT1664AG-10EB1 Manufacturer: Micron Size: 128MB Type: PC100 SDRAM CL2, single sided -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
