Re: classic or no classic in leopard?
On Dec 22, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 22, 2010, at 3:42 PM, Dan wrote: I've found Sheepshaver to be sluggish and/or crashy Sure that isn't just the experience of using OS 9 after living with OS X for so long? It's SheepShaver. Since it doesn't implement hardware exceptions, occurrences that normally would make an application unexpectedly quit crash the entire emulator instead. Also, I use a build from 2007 since later builds crash sporadically even with well-behaved apps. Since Leopard will soon join Tiger in the ranks of unsupported Apple operating systems, you should seriously consider staying with Tiger to run Classic or booting Mac OS 9 natively. Either one works well, was at one time officially supported by Apple, and is appropriate for production environments. Bottom line: If you want to run a supported OS and OS 9 (reliably), you need two machines. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: classic or no classic in leopard?
--- On Tue, 12/28/10, Joshua Juran jju...@gmail.com wrote: Bottom line: If you want to run a supported OS and OS 9 (reliably), you need two machines. Not so. In its simplest terms, you need a separate volume for each OS you want to run on your computer. Use the system preference Startup Disk to select the system you want to run. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: classic or no classic in leopard?
On Dec 28, 2010, at 10:42 AM, TRGPN WebMaster wrote: --- On Tue, 12/28/10, Joshua Juran jju...@gmail.com wrote: Bottom line: If you want to run a supported OS and OS 9 (reliably), you need two machines. Not so. In its simplest terms, you need a separate volume for each OS you want to run on your computer. Use the system preference Startup Disk to select the system you want to run. Not quite so simple (although I thought it should be) I have found that after running a Leopard system, trying to load a Tiger system [Via Option key during boot phase/ select Tiger partition] results in Kernal Panic The solution, be sure and do a PRAM Reset between system loads. That works for me. Chuck Davis MDD Dual 1.25 G4 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New internal hard drive for Power Mac G4
Right on Al! As an ex-mechanic I learned that in order to find the source of a noise, you really need a stethoscope (water pump vs A/C compressor vs air pump, etc). I had a commercial one from Snap-On but even a hose with a metal probe (or a paper towel tube) will be of benefit. Something that transmits local noise is a BIG help! ;^) - Peter - Original Message - From: Al Poulin alfred.pou...@gmail.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:39:53 AM Subject: Re: New internal hard drive for Power Mac G4 On Dec 26, 7:26 pm, Sean Carroll cedarwaxw...@att.net wrote: Open the PowerMac and stick your ear in there, to verify that the sounds are coming from the drives. I did and I have - I have just distrusted my ears (being a musician teaches you to, ironically). I am as satisfied as I can be that the noise is from the drives. It occurs to me a little belatedly that a test that would absolutely determine whether it was the hard drives would be to disconnect the power from them and start up. Unless that's a no-no for some reason. The only possible source of noise in this situation would be the fan, yes? An optical drive is silent unless it's reading something, no? I would try a stethoscope, or a low tech 11 inch cardboard core from your last roll of paper towels, or make yourself an ear trumpet from paper. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power supply replacement for Power Mac G4
Yes, they are, but they are fair questions. I'm much obliged for the very informative and detailed answers - thanks. Sean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New internal hard drive for Power Mac G4
On Dec 26, 7:16 pm, Dale Hoffman dh...@margnat.com wrote: I have two Sawtooths which I equipped with Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI cards. They support drives larger than 128GB. No Voodoo. The cards extended the usefulness of these G4s. I've looked at the Sonnet Tempo HD PCI card (part # THD-MW). A question: What does Bootability - Not supported mean? Not (gulp) what seems the most obvious, that you couldn't boot up from a drive connected to it, right? That wouldn't be good. Especially after I was so proud of myself for picking up on the fact that I'd need cables to go along with the card. Sean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New internal hard drive for Power Mac G4
I've looked at the Sonnet Tempo HD PCI card (part # THD-MW). A question: What does Bootability - Not supported mean? Not (gulp) what seems the most obvious, that you couldn't boot up from a drive connected to it, right? That wouldn't be good. Especially after I was so proud of myself for picking up on the fact that I'd need cables to go along with the card. Those ATA cards all model the attached devices as if they were SCSI. In most cases, at least in the cases where the controlling firmware was licensed from Firmkek, the actual originator of ATA add-on cards for Macs, the attached devices are bootable, just as SCSI drives are fully bootable. It could be that Sonnet wrote their own firmware, possibly to save the license fees from Firmtek, and equally possibly they took some shortcuts. Whatever the real reason, the Firmtek-licensed cards are bootable, and so also are the ACARD cards, which use their own firmware, but which is architecturally compatible with Firmtek's. Indeed, Firmtek made some boo-boos in its SCSI implementation, which ACARD duplicated in order to be compatible. You can initialize a drive on an ACARD card and subsequently transport it to a Firmtek-licensed card and it will be plug-and-play. Needless to say, I don't buy Sonnet's products because they tend to cut corners and produce products with incompatibilities or other obvious limitations. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New internal hard drive for Power Mac G4
On Dec 28, 2010, at 10:32 PM, Sean Carroll wrote: I've looked at the Sonnet Tempo HD PCI card (part # THD-MW). A question: What does Bootability - Not supported mean? Not (gulp) what seems the most obvious, that you couldn't boot up from a drive connected to it, right? That wouldn't be good. Especially after I was so proud of myself for picking up on the fact that I'd need cables to go along with the card. The THD-MW isn't the right card, it has a place for a 2.5 notebook HD which most people don't need, and it appears to not be bootable to boot. Here are some better cards: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=26068625490 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=400140875982 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=220715663063 If you're going to buy a PCI HD card, you might as well get an SATA card so that you can use larger/cheaper HDs. The 3rd link above is a cheap SATA card with free RAM perhaps. The sweet spot has moved on past the Sawtooth and all the G4 PowerMacs of less than 1 GHz. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Auto starting DVDs with VLC rather than DVD player
I think we had a discussion about doing this a year or so ago, and someone directed us to one of the applescript options out there for making it work. However, I have an external hard drive hooked up, and sometimes a flash drive, or an external optical drive, or a flash card reader, etc. The scripts that were sited directed VLC to open a specific rdisk location (ex; rdisk1). The changing of mounted drives changed the rdisk location of the combo drive on my G4 GigE. That meant that it was a crap shoot as to weather the dvd would start up automatically, or not. After much harassment from my wife and kids, who just want things to work, I decided to take a bit of my vacation time to finally fix the issue. So here is my solution. In AppleScript Utility check the box for 'Enable GUI Scripting' Make the following script in Script Editor, and save it somewhere that it won't have to move. tell application VLC activate end tell tell application System Events key down command keystroke d key up command delay 3 keystroke return tell application VLC play fullscreen end tell end tell Go to: System Preferences-CDs DVDs-When you insert a video DVD:- Run script Select the script you just saved. This does an end run around the rdisk issue, and opens the DVDs every time. The 'delay 3' line can be adjusted, or even removed, depending on how fast your system can open that pop-up window in VLC. I am no apple script expert, and the code might do with some cleaning up, but for now, it works, and my wife is off my back about it. I hope it can help someone else too. I know some people prefer VLC for the ability to play DVDs from other regions. For me, I have more functions on my pinnacle remote set up through Remote Buddy for VLC than for DVD player, and I can use it as my one stop application for viewing any video content, whether it's on my hard drive, or a DVD. Happy Holidays, Peter (FYI my machine is running 10.4.11, specific wording in the menus/ preferences may be different in 10.3/10.5, I am not sure) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
