Re: Any replacement keyboards
On Jun 27, 2:53 am, James E. Therrault jetas...@worldnet.att.net wrote: Another option that gets you the old-time Apple quality is to actually get an old Apple Extended Keyboard and connect it via a Griffin Technologies iMate ADB-to-USB adapter. I haven't tried it, but some say it works -- can I get a witness? I have been doing exactly this for years - works great! G. D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dead Gigabit Power Supplies - what to do?
On Jun 25, 2:12 pm, Paul pper...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking at the Swap List, too, but I'm hoping that someone knows of something else, because I might not find anything there. Check the Swap List again, QS 733 MHz for $99 shipped! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My DA Didn't Wake up from a recent Snooze ...
At 4:35 PM -0400 6/26/2009, insightinmind wrote: Just tried to wake up my Tiger DA Dual 533 from Sleep ... usually wakes up fine. This time, I had to cold-cock it and use the Restart button. Hate it when that happens. I remembered I had checked File Sharing and Remote Login for another project (Leopard connected QS iTunes Library Sharing, and more recent, Tiger connected Yikes! file copying to the DA). Is that what kept it from waking? Shouldn't have. What does it say in the system log? Also saw my Yikes! try to index my DA's Docs partition, while I had it briefly connected ... but it was also disconnected (without finishing the Indexing). Could be that the spotlight indexer was hung and the system didn't full sleep in the first place. What does it say in the system log? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Performance of Leopard or Tiger Server on a PowerMac G4
I'm looking to make a Mac based file server. I'm wondering if PowerMac G4 Sawtooth or QS would he enough to run Leopard or Tiger server. Would I be better off with an used Mac mini? Jagger De Leo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My DA Didn't Wake up from a recent Snooze ...
On Jun 27, 2009, at 9:24 AM, Dan wrote: What does it say in the system log? System log seems to be gone already for yesterday, but a panic log shows this (pointing to my aging legacy Sonnet Trio ATA/FW/USB card that I'm using in my DA to allow larger drives ... just this once, didn't fully wake-up ... seems to be the right time, I had just woken up from my Snooze ... better the DA than me (???)): * Fri Jun 26 16:08:21 2009 panic(cpu 0 caller 0x000A8C00): Uncorrectable machine check: pc = 005BB35C, msr = 00049030, dsisr = 4200, dar = 37BAA040 AsyncSrc = , CoreFIR = L2FIR = , BusFir = Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0: Backtrace: 0x000954F8 0x00095A10 0x00026898 0x000A8C00 0x000A7E90 0x000ABB80 Proceeding back via exception chain: Exception state (sv=0x2A89A000) PC=0x005BB35C; MSR=0x00049030; DAR=0x37BAA040; DSISR=0x4200; LR=0x005BB424; R1=0x14C33D80; XCP=0x0008 (0x200 - Machine check) Backtrace: 0x0003C890 0x002D1B8C 0x002D0A54 0x000A9714 Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies): com.firmtek.driver.UltraTek133P_48(3.0)@0x5b5000 dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.7)@0x491000 dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOATAFamily(1.6.0f2)@0x4b4000 Exception state (sv=0x00C87500) PC=0x; MSR=0xD030; DAR=0x; DSISR=0x; LR=0x; R1=0x; XCP=0x (Unknown) Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10 18:26:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC * Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My DA Didn't Wake up from a recent Snooze ...
At 10:29 AM -0400 6/27/2009, insightinmind wrote: On Jun 27, 2009, at 9:24 AM, Dan wrote: What does it say in the system log? System log seems to be gone already for yesterday Use Console.app. If the prior logs aren't there, then you're doing something to flush them out. That's BAD. Do not be flushing old logs unnecessarily. Without those logs, you're left in the dark but a panic log shows this (pointing to my aging legacy Sonnet Trio ATA/FW/USB card that I'm using in my DA to allow larger drives ... just this once, didn't fully wake-up ... seems to be the right time, I had just woken up from my Snooze ... better the DA than me (???)): Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies): com.firmtek.driver.UltraTek133P_48(3.0)@0x5b5000 dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.7)@0x491000 dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOATAFamily(1.6.0f2)@0x4b4000 Make sure your cables are well seated on those drives. Run a Verify Disk pass on those volumes; make sure they didn't get corrupted. Check for an updated driver. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Beige G3/233 now mute
Recently the PRAM battery on my faithful old G3/233 desktop died. When I put in a new battery and started it up, I suddenly had no sound. No startup chime, no system alerts, no music from CD, nothing. When I go into the Monitors Sound control panel, it shows a blank for sound output, as if it doesn't even know it has the capacity to handle sound. On the recommendation of my brother, a computer engineer, I pulled the Personality Card and reseated it, but it still can't tell it's got the capacity to play sound. I even finally did the upgrade from 8.1 to 8.6 that I'd been intending to get around to forever, but it did not resolve the situation -- and it screwed up my Palm Desktop, so I may have to go back to 8.1 to get that back (I'm still using an old Palm VIIx until it finally gives up the ghost). Does anybody have any experience with beige G3's losing their sound when the PRAM battery is changed? I'd really like to be able to play CD's on it while I'm working -- I can listen to Internet radio on the G4 laptop (the machine I'm using to type this), but it tends to get hot if run for too long. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Any replacement keyboards
Al Poulin wrote: On Jun 25, 9:56 am, Stephen E. Bodnar sbod...@gci.net wrote: I'm typing this now on a Tactile Pro 2.0 keyboard, which is Mac-centric, but very clicky. Also pricey, and I guess they don't make it any more. That was made by Matias. They now feature a Mac compatible unit at a much lower price. http://www.matias.ca/usb2keyboard/index.php# That isn't their tactile model, but it is very nice. I have three of them in the house, but I got mine when Staples was running the keyboard/mouse combo for under $20. The USB 2.0 dock in the center of the keyboard is a nice feature, but, of course, you must have a USB 2.0 port to connect it to. The keyboard has two USB plugs, one for the keyboard and mouse--USB 1, and one for the dock, USB 2. But wait, under the Products tab, see their new Matias Tactile Pro 2.0 keyboard. They even have models for $595. I don't know where you got $595. On their Tactile Pro page they list the Black/Silver model for $149.95. The white model is discontinued. Jeff Walther --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Beige G3/233 now mute
On Jun 27, 2009, at 1:33 PM, leighkimmel wrote: Recently the PRAM battery on my faithful old G3/233 desktop died. When I put in a new battery and started it up, I suddenly had no sound. No startup chime, no system alerts, no music from CD, nothing. When I go into the Monitors Sound control panel, it shows a blank for sound output, as if it doesn't even know it has the capacity to handle sound. Does anybody have any experience with beige G3's losing their sound when the PRAM battery is changed? I'd really like to be able to play CD's on it while I'm working -- I can listen to Internet radio on the G4 laptop (the machine I'm using to type this), but it tends to get hot if run for too long. Is the PRAM battery in the right direction? Did you also do cmd-opt-P-R ? All of this resets audio preferences I think ... but I only have experience with Mac Plus, a Performa, PM8500/9500, Yikes!, DA, QS 2002 ... nothing in between ... Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Beige G3/233 now mute
On 6/27/09 7:34 PM, insightinmind of billycarm...@verizon.net sent On Jun 27, 2009, at 1:33 PM, leighkimmel wrote: Recently the PRAM battery on my faithful old G3/233 desktop died. When I put in a new battery and started it up, I suddenly had no sound. No startup chime, no system alerts, no music from CD, nothing. When I go into the Monitors Sound control panel, it shows a blank for sound output, as if it doesn't even know it has the capacity to handle sound. Does anybody have any experience with beige G3's losing their sound when the PRAM battery is changed? I'd really like to be able to play CD's on it while I'm working -- I can listen to Internet radio on the G4 laptop (the machine I'm using to type this), but it tends to get hot if run for too long. Is the PRAM battery in the right direction? Did you also do cmd-opt-P-R ? All of this resets audio preferences I think ... but I only have experience with Mac Plus, a Performa, PM8500/9500, Yikes!, DA, QS 2002 ... nothing in between ... Bill Connelly Yes, to all of the above re: Bill's suggestion; also, there is a reset button on the beige G3 motherboard (iirc) that should be pushed. The most helpful thing to do is to reseat the personality card (i.e. The audio card), as I learned when our music lab was populated by these units. I can remember one time in particular that none of this worked for one of our still-under-warranty G3/233 desktops; the Apple technician on the phone had me yank and reseat the voltage regulator card, then zap the PRAM - that did the trick; that was the only (and most extreme HTH, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My DA Didn't Wake up from a recent Snooze ...
On Jun 27, 2009, at 7:51 AM, Dan wrote: System log seems to be gone already for yesterday Use Console.app. And click the More Logs button. Click the reveal arrows until you get to /var/logs, you can see previous System logs there. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Performance of Leopard or Tiger Server on a PowerMac G4
I have run Mac OS 10.4 Server on a Dual 500MHZ G4 Gigabit Ethernet, and a single 533MHZ G4 Digital Audio. While I haven't attempted to run Leopard on either for a server OS, 10.4 Server has run great. I am currently running it on a Dual 867MHZ G4 MDD. I have heard that regular 10.4 runs 10 - 15% faster on ppc processors than leopard. -Jonas On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 6:43 AM, Jagger De Leo jagger27@gmail.comwrote: I'm looking to make a Mac based file server. I'm wondering if PowerMac G4 Sawtooth or QS would he enough to run Leopard or Tiger server. Would I be better off with an used Mac mini? Jagger De Leo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Beige G3/233 now mute
I have had a lot of Beige G3's and one did go mute. I solved the problem by just replacing the personality card. One thing that you might try is zapping the pram. Turn on the computer and hold down: Command + Options + P + R. Hold these keys until the computer restarts about 3 times. Usually you would measure when it restarts by when it chimes but in your case that won't work. You might try looking at the keyboard lights to tell you. -Jonas On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:33 AM, leighkimmel leighkim...@yahoo.com wrote: Recently the PRAM battery on my faithful old G3/233 desktop died. When I put in a new battery and started it up, I suddenly had no sound. No startup chime, no system alerts, no music from CD, nothing. When I go into the Monitors Sound control panel, it shows a blank for sound output, as if it doesn't even know it has the capacity to handle sound. On the recommendation of my brother, a computer engineer, I pulled the Personality Card and reseated it, but it still can't tell it's got the capacity to play sound. I even finally did the upgrade from 8.1 to 8.6 that I'd been intending to get around to forever, but it did not resolve the situation -- and it screwed up my Palm Desktop, so I may have to go back to 8.1 to get that back (I'm still using an old Palm VIIx until it finally gives up the ghost). Does anybody have any experience with beige G3's losing their sound when the PRAM battery is changed? I'd really like to be able to play CD's on it while I'm working -- I can listen to Internet radio on the G4 laptop (the machine I'm using to type this), but it tends to get hot if run for too long. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
