Re: iTunes 9 PPC Macs
Clark Martin wrote: WhyOSX wrote: There is one simple saying: Never change a running system... Simple and pointless. I had a PM7500 with 8Mb of RAM, a 1Gb HD and running OS 7.5.2. It ended up with 256Mb of RAM, a 4Gb HD and running OS 9.1. Everytime I upgraded it was running just fine. But from beginning to end was a major improvement. Following that thinking I'd still be using my Mac 512K. So, in the general experience of others, are the latest ITunes and QT updates recommended for Tiger on a G4 or not? Cliff +2 with a dual 533. 10.4.11. Just over a gig of ram. Everything seems in the green including iTunes. Nathan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wireless 350 MHZ Yikes!
Howdy, It varies quite a bit. Trees and other obstacle cut down the distance and the type of antannae you use can affect it greatly. Unless this is out west, in an arid, flat area, it is unlikely it will work without a little extra work. The good news is that it is not that hard. You need to get good antennae at each end. You want ones that are directional and you will have to take some time to aim them properly and you should be able to make it. If I owned the property, I would do as Richard Gerome suggested and run a cable. Good luck, Ralph On Fri, 2009-09-11 at 15:32 -0700, Jasiu wrote: How far can I expect wireless coverage without the use of a repeater? My father has a cabin approximately 80 yards from his house. He would like to have internet reception there as well. Anyone know what range I can expect from an 802.11n card? Which one will work in aforementioned machine? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes 9 PPC Macs
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: iTunes 9 PPC Macs Date:Freitag, 11. September 2009N From:WhyOSX phil.desa...@online.de To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com There is one simple saying: Never change a running system... Isn't it: Never touch a running system? And its more appropriate for servers, but isn't really correct anymore. A friend of mine told me that admins used to tweak some settings to make the server work correctly without making sure that the server will even start after a reboot. So, what it comes down to: the saying is completely wrong. Whatever you do, just make sure that everything is prepared to work after a cold start. If not, you made something terribly wrong. Cheers, Andreas. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Dual 500
What is the code name for a Dual Processor 500MHZ G4? Is it Yikes! ? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dual 500
On Sep 12, 2009, at 7:51 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: What is the code name for a Dual Processor 500MHZ G4? Is it Yikes! ? SnakeBite is the code name for your Power Mac G4 (Gigabit Ethernet) according to the indispensable Mac evolution database (free download) Mactracker. http://www.mactracker.ca/ Dale --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dual 500
That would most likely be the Gigabit model, unless we're talking about an upgraded G4. The Yikes was basically a G4 welded on to a G3 motherboard. If you ever do have the opportunity to own a Yikes, run away. Eric On Saturday, September 12, 2009, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net wrote: What is the code name for a Dual Processor 500MHZ G4? Is it Yikes! ? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: installing Classic over Tiger
Date: Thurs, Sep 10 2009 8:25 pm From: Clark Martin Kris Tilford wrote: Normally scanners won't work under Classic emulation, you'd need to be booted directly in OS 9. Perhaps if you mentioned the model of scanner, there is an OS X native way to scan? Photoshop should run in Classic, but you won't be able to scan, you'd need to be natively booted in OS 9. If you failed to install OS 9 drivers on the HD, you can't boot OS 9, it's Classic only. You can reformat the HD, install OS 9 first, then reinstall OS X, and you're golden. That's what I thought until I tried using the UMax software with an Astra 2400U scanner. It worked okay except some issue with permissions that was easy to work around. IIRC I did have to go into the Apps OS 9 folder and make the whole scanner app folder have full R/W access to anyone. Have had no trouble running my scanner with the pre X software that came with it, in Classic. The software is called ScanWizard and the scanner a ScanMaker x12. It runs via a USB 2 card on my Tiger machine. Odd thing though, Classic fires up fine but when I tried (first time in a year or two!) to boot into 9 this morning off a volume that is dedicated to 9, it could not recognise the Volume and asked if I wanted to initialise it? I was not sure what to do and left it. I used to be able to boot into 9 on this machine. (QS 2002) -- dorayme --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wireless 350 MHZ Yikes!
Alternatively, I have found articles online that show how to build a wi-fi antenna out of an old satellite dish and a few assorted bits and pieces. You can pick up signals several miles away using one of these. There are several places you can google to find plans using different parts with different results. On Sep 11, 10:13 pm, Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net wrote: If you own all the property you can dig a ditch and bury a cat 5 cable and run it from the router to the cabin, I would run it in 1/2in plastic pipe under ground and you wont have to worry about a signal!!! CoolKat -Original Message- From: Jasiu johnschiavone...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 11, 2009 6:32 PM To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Wireless 350 MHZ Yikes! How far can I expect wireless coverage without the use of a repeater? My father has a cabin approximately 80 yards from his house. He would like to have internet reception there as well. Anyone know what range I can expect from an 802.11n card? Which one will work in aforementioned machine? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dual 500
On Sep 12, 8:09 am, Eric Volker evol...@gmail.com wrote: If you ever do have the opportunity to own a Yikes, run away. My Yikes specs: Sonnet G4 500 MHz, 1 GB RAM, GeForce 6200/256 MB PCI video (Quartz Extreme and Core Image hardware supported) Sonnet SATA controller card with a 500 GB SATA hard drive and a Pioneer SATA DVR, Belkin wireless Airport card, OS X 10.4.11 Granted there's not that much of the original Yikes left- just the PSU, mobo and case- but it's still a very useful Mac. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dual 500
On Sep 12, 2009, at 10:47 AM, dc wrote: On Sep 12, 8:09 am, Eric Volker evol...@gmail.com wrote: If you ever do have the opportunity to own a Yikes, run away. I oc'd my 400MHz Yikes! to 450, added a Sonnet Trio FW400/USB2/ATA133 and a SCSI card or two, and now have a very useful SCSI UMAX 2400S Scanner and USB2 Nikon 5000ED Scanner Mac ... all spare parts / externals from my PPC 8500 days. Also recently connected it via an Airlink 101 USB2 Ethernet adapter out in my painting studio at 54Mb/s. Probably should / could have run away when someone gave it to me ... but I like Macs! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wireless 350 MHZ Yikes!
I wouldn't be worried about lightning or underground currents, as Cat5 is decently insulated, but wireless would be much easier, and I guarantee that N would reach, provided it doesn't have to go through too many walls to get there. Bill Connelly wrote: No special concerns for lightening? underground currents? hooked to such a sensitive area of the computer? Seems like you're asking for it ... I would try the wireless first. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wireless 350 MHZ Yikes!
At 14:32 -0400 9/12/09, Chance Reecher wrote: I wouldn't be worried about lightning or underground currents, as Cat5 is decently insulated, but wireless would be much easier, and I guarantee that N would reach, provided it doesn't have to go through too many walls to get there. Ten base T with cat 5 wire is rated for 100 meters. 80 yards is getting there but probably within the limit after you include going up the walls and such. Forget about 100 base T. Underground currents produced by lightning ARE a concern though. 10 base T signals are differential and are pretty good against noise but they are coupled into and out of modems - er, driver circuitry - via tiny 20 MHz transformers that are actually fit into 0.300 inch DIP packages four at a time. The insulation of the windings inside the transformers is not up to huge changes in ground potential that can occur over a few meters of earth. Here in the front range of the Colorado mountains we get lightning that produces 1000 volt pulses between the earth ground of the power company at one end of the house and the ground rod at the other end where the microwave antenna points to Cheyenne Mountain. Those Ethernet transformers have been lost several times. And. . . running a separate ground wire the length of the house doesn't work because the inductance of the wire makes it look like a resistor at a few MHz.. I am actively looking for an affordable optical fiber replacement for CAT-5. I recently saw an article on using 1 mm diameter plastic fiber for that but it isn't on the market yet. Glass fiber and drivers for it are just too expensive probably because they are built for kilometers. As for using 802.11x wireless. Look for pringles can antenna on Google. A few years ago such things were developed as directional antennas and they worked. It was a matter of mounting an RF connector to the side of the can and getting the right length of wire sticking up inside the can. -- -- A fair tax is one that you pay but I don't -- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wireless 350 MHZ Yikes!
On Sep 12, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: That was my first thought, too. No special concerns for lightening? underground currents? hooked to such a sensitive area of the computer? Buried cables are virtually immune to lightning, particularly if buried in plastic pipe. -- Bruce Johnson U of Az College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions don't have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dual 500
I should've known I'd be flamebait for dissing the venerable Yikes. I will say that for a time I had both a Yikes and a Sawtooth with the same clock speed. Even stock, the Sawtooth was noticably faster. Plus it was easier to find faster/better upgrades for it. It most especially was difficult to upgrade the CPU. I eventually gave the Yikes away to a friend who wanted a Mac to play with. One of the problems of owning an old Mac is the cost of upgrades. In my case, I opted to sell the Sawtooth and buy a dual G5 for $400. It smokes any G4 I've ever used. Eric Sent from my iPhone On Sep 12, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Sep 12, 2009, at 10:47 AM, dc wrote: On Sep 12, 8:09 am, Eric Volker evol...@gmail.com wrote: If you ever do have the opportunity to own a Yikes, run away. I oc'd my 400MHz Yikes! to 450, added a Sonnet Trio FW400/USB2/ATA133 and a SCSI card or two, and now have a very useful SCSI UMAX 2400S Scanner and USB2 Nikon 5000ED Scanner Mac ... all spare parts / externals from my PPC 8500 days. Also recently connected it via an Airlink 101 USB2 Ethernet adapter out in my painting studio at 54Mb/s. Probably should / could have run away when someone gave it to me ... but I like Macs! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes 9 PPC Macs
At 5:23 PM -0500 09/10/2009, Kris Tilford wrote: I wasn't offered iTunes 9 on my G3 iBook. A quick check of System Requirements shows no G3 support. Some are saying iTunes 9 runs on the G3, but slowly. I haven't tried iTunes 9 on a G3. It appears iTunes 8.2.1 is the final G3 version. Someone needs to catalog the final versions of G3 software. Software Update offered iTunes 9 on my Pismo (G3) running Tiger (10.4.11) and it appeared to download and be installed; however, the installed version remains 8.2.1. - Maretta --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
