Re: The Attack of the Giant Pixels
Tom wrote: Yeah, I don't know why the drivers for this rather common video card were left out of Leopard, but obviously they were. Somebody at Apple goofed? Ted, are you sure it was the card that was bad, or only the driver? I'm pretty sure it was the card, as it was OK when booted from cold, but after running for 4 - 5 minutes, blocky artefacts appeared. So something was definitely not good, and it appeared to be heat-exacerbated. Also, booting from the other drive (10.4) in the G4 didn't improve matters... Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: The Attack of the Giant Pixels
Yeah, I don't know why the drivers for this rather common video card were left out of Leopard, but obviously they were. Somebody at Apple goofed? No, Leopard has all the required ATI video extensions. I think when he said he used an alternate driver (meaning software extension or kext) he really meant he used an alternate firmware (called ROM in the Mac ATI world, and BIOS in the PC ATI world). Many of the ATI driver installers simultaneously update the firmware on the card. I suspect that if you did a software installation, you may actually have downgraded your drivers to something of 2005 vintage while updating your card's firmware. It's likely that the firmware update was the cause of the artifact fix. Blocky video artifacts are often caused by the card's firmware being overclocked, meaning the firmware is set to run the GPU too fast for the VRAM chips on the card. The solution is to slow down the GPU to a speed that matches the VRAM chip specifications. You can alternatively use 3rd-party software like ATIccelerator II to set the speed of the GPU VRAM via a System Preferences Preference Pane. This can be handy if you're not comfortable changing the speed in firmware and would rather over-ride the firmware setting manually via a Preference Pane rather than flashing the firmware. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Help - what does this mean?
Greetings all, I little help in discerning a splash page on boot-up I've not seen before. I gave my daughter an upgraded G4 Quicksilver (1.5GHz single CPU, running leopard). It has an ATI Radeon card in it, a rather nice one iirc, 9500, w/ 256Mb RAM. She sent me a cell phone photo of a picture she now gets on boot-up, a little picture of the ATI card (w/ the ATI logo to its right) with the Mac not proceeding with the boot-up process. This is the initial page one sees at startup, so I suspect something nefarious with the card. Any one ever get this, and if so, what does it mean? Thank you, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Example of using the logs to debug
On 12/18/10 1:41 AM, Clark Martin of cm...@sonic.net sent I just went through a couple of days trying to install some software (but failing) and finally solved it so I figured I'd pass on some details of it in case it may help someone in a similar fix. I was trying to install XCode 2.5 on a PowerMac G4 MDD running Tiger (10.4.11). The software comes as a 1Gb disk image. I mounted the disk image and double clicked on the package ICON. After double clicking on it nothing happens, no app appears in the dock. I had just installed the software on a laptop and it worked without any problem. I tried it on a G4 QS that had an old copy of the MDD's disk (I'd replaced the G4 QS with the MDD hence the copy) and it had the same problem. I tried installing it from another account, same problem. Finally I checked the system log. It showed a problem with libperl.dylib. I tracked it down and found it inside /System/Library/Perl. I replaced the whole Perl folder from yet another G4 QS with a fairly pristine 10.4.11 install. I could have just replaced the one library file but I figured I'd replaced all of it. After copying it over I had to change the ownership and privileges. This worked and XCode 2.5 installed successfully. The point of the story is that while the log (any log) does not say THE PROBLEM IS HERE - but it will often provide a hint of the problem. This was a big deal for me as the next step would have been to do an Archive and Install of the OS. Aside from all the hassle of re-installing various applications I have some cross-development software on it that might be hard to determine just what needs to be installed to get it back to where it was. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway An excellent adventure with a happy (dare I say, heroic?) ending. I personally appreciate the information shared, though I may never find myself in a like scenario. Thank you, Clark, for having the consideration to share. Best regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help - what does this mean?
DLC wrote: Quick Update; I had my daughter reset the motherboard - so far, it worked. Still curious about the splash screen - I can send anyone a pict if you're at all curious yourself. Thanks, Dana On Dec 18, 12:43 pm, DLCdlcatft...@frontier.com wrote: Greetings all, I little help in discerning a splash page on boot-up I've not seen before. I gave my daughter an upgraded G4 Quicksilver (1.5GHz single CPU, running leopard). It has an ATI Radeon card in it, a rather nice one iirc, 9500, w/ 256Mb RAM. She sent me a cell phone photo of a picture she now gets on boot-up, a little picture of the ATI card (w/ the ATI logo to its right) with the Mac not proceeding with the boot-up process. This is the initial page one sees at startup, so I suspect something nefarious with the card. Any one ever get this, and if so, what does it mean? Thank you, Dana Hi, I have seen a similar splash screen, but when a Radeon 9800 was fitted, and its direct power lead (to the 9800, that is) wasn't connected. i can only surmise that the Mac/Card combination was unhappy about something, and the CUDA reset has sorted it. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help - what does this mean?
On Dec 18, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Ted Treen wrote: I have seen a similar splash screen, but when a Radeon 9800 was fitted, and its direct power lead (to the 9800, that is) wasn't connected. Yeah, this makes sense, the power lead is red, indicating a problem. That's pretty cool that the ATI card can override the boot and stop it until its power is correctly configured. I've got a 9800 but I've never seen this boot screen. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MS office '11
On 12/17/10 12:04 PM, Fabian Fang f...@mac.com wrote: Entourage has been replaced by Outlook in Microsoft Office for Mac 2011: http://www.microsoft.com/mac/outlook However, not all Office 2011 for Mac editions include Outlook. My Academic Edition does. Fabian I guess I could have better phrased my question. It is more related to iPhoto. You no longer have Entourage as a sending option in iPhoto. Anyone found a workaround? === Kyle H. Hansen Apple Certified Desktop Technician (ACDT) Apple Certified Portable Technician (ACPT) Apple Certified System Administrator (ACSA) MCSE Certified Technician CCIE, CCNA, CCSP Certified Technician k...@hansen-technical.com www.hansen-technical.com === -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help - what does this mean?
On 12/18/10 3:28 PM, Kris Tilford of ktilfo...@cox.net sent On Dec 18, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Ted Treen wrote: I have seen a similar splash screen, but when a Radeon 9800 was fitted, and its direct power lead (to the 9800, that is) wasn't connected. Yeah, this makes sense, the power lead is red, indicating a problem. That's pretty cool that the ATI card can override the boot and stop it until its power is correctly configured. I've got a 9800 but I've never seen this boot screen. Yes to both Kris and Ted's response - with the help of some more description from my daughter we traced it to a Molex extender cable that had faulted and was over-heating. Card is fine, additional Molex cable is history. Splash screen is kind of cool, but a little unnerving if its the first time you see it and knew not to expect such a possibility. Oh, and the card is indeed a 9800, not the 9500 I first posted. Best regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MS office '11
On Dec 18, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: I guess I could have better phrased my question. It is more related to iPhoto. You no longer have Entourage as a sending option in iPhoto. Anyone found a workaround? Your original subject indicates that you have Microsoft Office for Mac 2011. Hopefully you have an edition with Outlook, which I wrote about. There have been a number of threads on the Apple Discussion Forum about e-mailing from iPhoto with Microsoft Outlook 2011, including the following: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=12543954 http://discussions.info.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=12493762 Fabian -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help - what does this mean?
On Dec 18, 2010, at 4:19 PM, Dana Collins wrote: On 12/18/10 3:28 PM, Kris Tilford of ktilfo...@cox.net sent On Dec 18, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Ted Treen wrote: I have seen a similar splash screen, but when a Radeon 9800 was fitted, and its direct power lead (to the 9800, that is) wasn't connected. Yeah, this makes sense, the power lead is red, indicating a problem. That's pretty cool that the ATI card can override the boot and stop it until its power is correctly configured. I've got a 9800 but I've never seen this boot screen. Yes to both Kris and Ted's response - with the help of some more description from my daughter we traced it to a Molex extender cable that had faulted and was over-heating. Card is fine, additional Molex cable is history. Splash screen is kind of cool, but a little unnerving if its the first time you see it and knew not to expect such a possibility. Oh, and the card is indeed a 9800, not the 9500 I first posted. Best regards, Dana Good info. I have a ATI Radeon 9800 Pro ME, and was wondering if the cooling fan ever fails, will I get a similar warning? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G4 iMac won't connect wirelessly to internet
Stats: G4 iMac running 10.4.11; was connected to Airport Extreme with Ethernet; PowerBook and MacBook Pro connected thru this network Today I set up a new IMac, attaching it to the Airport Extreme with Ethernet; the laptops are connecting to the internet just fine. What do I need to do to get the G4 iMac to connect wirelessly to the internet? Jane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
