Re: Where's the trash?
At 12:07 AM -0500 1/4/2011, Yersinia wrote: On 1/3/11 10:26 PM, Dan wrote: At 6:52 PM -0800 1/3/2011, Jeffrey & Daile Engle wrote: I want to know where the "Folder" is that holds the trash? is there such thing? And what are you plotting to do to them? In your home folder, there's ~/.Trash and up at the root level of the volume is /.Trashes Because the names start with a dot, they're automagically invisible to Finder. If they're invisible, how do you know they're there? You spray them with anti-invisible spray! dans-quicksilver:~ dan$ ls -al drwx--6 dan dan 204 Jan 3 22:18 .Trash dans-quicksilver:~ dan$ ls -al / d-wx-wx-wt2 root admin 68 Aug 21 2008 .Trashes You can view their contents with ls commands in Terminal. Or from Finder, you can directly open the folders. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 'Greyed' screen
On Jan 4, 2011, at 12:44 AM, PETER WARNER wrote: Is Growl trying to tell you something is happening in the background? Incoming call or something? No, ... Famous Last Word... As per Alex, I checked Console, and there were a bunch of errors fro Growl, and it seems a Growl like action, to reduce most of the screen while showing an alert. I stopped Growl, and Growl Mail, and restarted. Logging out, and back in did not work, it had to be a full restart. Perhaps I'll avoid the Growl in the future... Thanks Guys, Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 'Greyed' screen
Is Growl trying to tell you something is happening in the background? Incoming call or something? No, In the top bar, where the icons for volume, fast user switching, displays, etc go, there is a Growl icon. The rest are about 80% grey (though still accessible) but Growl, Bluetooth, and My user name for Fast user switching are black. Speaking of fast user switching, when I switch to my wife's login, it is still Grey. It looks as though some process is trying to get my attention, but there is no alert window, or anything. Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Where's the trash?
I think there are programs that allow you to see the invisible files. Also you can use the command line interface to see them. I THINK the idea was so that users did not mess around with certain files unless you know what you are doing. I remember reading something a few years ago that messing with the trash files could cause problems. On Jan 4, 2011, at 12:07 AM, Yersinia wrote: > On 1/3/11 10:26 PM, Dan wrote: >> At 6:52 PM -0800 1/3/2011, Jeffrey & Daile Engle wrote: >>> I want to know where the "Folder" is that holds the trash? is there such >>> thing? >> >> And what are you plotting to do to them? >> >> >> In your home folder, there's ~/.Trash >> >> and up at the root level of the volume is /.Trashes >> >> Because the names start with a dot, they're automagically invisible to >> Finder. > > If they're invisible, how do you know they're there? > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette > guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Where's the trash?
On 1/3/11 10:26 PM, Dan wrote: At 6:52 PM -0800 1/3/2011, Jeffrey & Daile Engle wrote: I want to know where the "Folder" is that holds the trash? is there such thing? And what are you plotting to do to them? In your home folder, there's ~/.Trash and up at the root level of the volume is /.Trashes Because the names start with a dot, they're automagically invisible to Finder. If they're invisible, how do you know they're there? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 'Greyed' screen
On Jan 3, 2011, at 10:22 PM, peter wrote: Every once in a while, ... It's just the windows, text, certain icons at the top of the screen (Growl, Is Growl trying to tell you something is happening in the background? Incoming call or something? Not sure how Growl works, although I have it loaded but turned off. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 'Greyed' screen
Check in the console to see what process it is that is doing that. On Jan 3, 2011, at 9:35 PM, PETER WARNER wrote: > > On Jan 3, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > >> On Jan 3, 2011, at 9:22 PM, peter wrote: >> >>> What could this possibly be? >> >> >> Something related to Exposé? > > It is not when I'm using Expose actively. Tonight, I was in the middle of > looking at the G-Group list online, and it suddenly happened, my mouse was > not near the hot corner for expose... I have not been able to trace it to any > certain activity, or level of activity. It happens (seemingly) randomly, and > then goes away randomly. The only thing that I can guarantee to make it go > away is a restart. However it will often go away on it's own, after varying > periods of time. if it was the whole screen, I would think it was an issue > with the video card, or monitor, but I have those odd exceptions. > > BTW it does not affect my ability to do anything. > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette > guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 'Greyed' screen
On Jan 3, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jan 3, 2011, at 9:22 PM, peter wrote: What could this possibly be? Something related to Exposé? It is not when I'm using Expose actively. Tonight, I was in the middle of looking at the G-Group list online, and it suddenly happened, my mouse was not near the hot corner for expose... I have not been able to trace it to any certain activity, or level of activity. It happens (seemingly) randomly, and then goes away randomly. The only thing that I can guarantee to make it go away is a restart. However it will often go away on it's own, after varying periods of time. if it was the whole screen, I would think it was an issue with the video card, or monitor, but I have those odd exceptions. BTW it does not affect my ability to do anything. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 'Greyed' screen
On Jan 3, 2011, at 9:22 PM, peter wrote: What could this possibly be? Something related to Exposé? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Where's the trash?
Believe it is an invisible folder in your home folder. On Jan 3, 2011 9:52 PM, "Jeffrey & Daile Engle" wrote: > I want to know where the "Folder" is that holds the trash? is there such thing? Jeff > > > > > > Jeffrey Engle > Kamiah, Idaho 83536 > macgu...@gmail.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Where's the trash?
At 6:52 PM -0800 1/3/2011, Jeffrey & Daile Engle wrote: I want to know where the "Folder" is that holds the trash? is there such thing? And what are you plotting to do to them? In your home folder, there's ~/.Trash and up at the root level of the volume is /.Trashes Because the names start with a dot, they're automagically invisible to Finder. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
'Greyed' screen
Every once in a while, almost everything on my screen gets less saturated. It is as if I had increased the brightness setting, except... it does not affect everything. My desktop image is not affected, not is the apple icon in the upper right, nor images I open, nor videos..?...>? It's just the windows, text, certain icons at the top of the screen (Growl, Bluetooth, and User name being notable exceptions) and dock icons. What could this possibly be? My machine: Gig E G4, 10.4.11, 1GB ram ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 mb -1360x768 @ 60hz -32-bit color Acer X183H LCD monitor (VGA) PCI cards: -6 port USB2 -M-Audio revolution 5.1 2 external HDs 2 internal PATA drives Thanks, Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Where's the trash?
I want to know where the "Folder" is that holds the trash? is there such thing? Jeff Jeffrey Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 macgu...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sudden power loss in G5
At 10:55 -0800 1/3/11, Leo Hoyt wrote: >I have a dual 2.7 Ghz PPC G5 w/ 4.5 GB ram. The machine recently >started powering off without warning. Is this signs of a power supply >failing? If so how hard are the power supplies to replace in these >towers? > Don't overlook the possibility of a problem with your power cord or the surge arrestor it's likely hooked to. -- --> Marriage and kilo are troubled words. Turmoil results when centuries-old usage is altered in specialized jargon <--. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sudden power loss in G5
> Subject: Sudden power loss in G5 > > I have a dual 2.7 Ghz PPC G5 w/ 4.5 GB ram. The machine recently > started powering off without warning. Is this signs of a power supply > failing? If so how hard are the power supplies to replace in these > towers? > > Thanks for the help. > > Leo > On 1/3/11 3:37 PM, schaf...@comcast.net of schaf...@comcast.net sent > > > Leo, > > Power supplies are a bitch requiring removing almost everything. My 2.3 dual > core went abruptly with a flash and a stench. However, you may be having > problems with coolant leaking onto your electronics, which is worse. Check > this out IMMEDIATELY! > > Fine machine otherwise! > > - Peter > AND they are expensive, too! (either diagnosis for that matter). -Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sudden power loss in G5
On 1/3/2011 12:55 PM, Leo Hoyt wrote: I have a dual 2.7 Ghz PPC G5 w/ 4.5 GB ram. The machine recently started powering off without warning. Is this signs of a power supply failing? If so how hard are the power supplies to replace in these towers? Thanks for the help. Leo About 9 months ago my dual 1.8Ghz started doing what you're describing. I tried everything I could think off to resolve it, including standing on my head and spinning widdershins thrice. I finally found this article on xlr8yourmac: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/Dual_Core_G5_Shutdowns.html I worked through the suggestions until I reseated my motherboard power connector. After that, no more random shutdowns. It's been solid ever since. Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sudden power loss in G5
On Jan 3, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Leo Hoyt wrote: I have a dual 2.7 Ghz PPC G5 w/ 4.5 GB ram. The machine recently started powering off without warning. Is this signs of a power supply failing? I don't think this is necessarily a sign the power supply is failing. I have a dual 2.3 that had a power supply fail. It was NOT part of the batch of G5's covered in the Extended Warranty program for G5's with defective power supplies, it was manufactured 3 weeks too early for the program, and I'm almost certain yours would have been covered in this program except for the fact that it ended in January 2010, so you're too late for a free replacement (unless you already got it replaced free?). When mine failed with less than 1 week usage it failed instantly with the smell of burned electrical components and no startup after that. Testing with a multimeter yielded that more than half the power sources were dead. Since this Mac was brand new I was somehow able to talk Apple into replacing the power supply for free. They also replaced the entire logicboard and both CPUs, which they do send back for "re-certification" to be used in future warranty or replacement work if they're still good. The symptom you're describing is something I still have intermittent problems with. I'm almost 100% certain it's got more to do with power line fluctuations rather than a failing power supply. I've noticed that on several occasions when my G5 suddenly powers off without warning that this power off is accompanied by some other event. Examples of other events that I've noticed occurring simultaneously with the G5 power off are 1) a washing machine motor starting. 2) a refrigerator compressor starting 3) a furnace motor starting 4) a slight dimming of all incandescent lights. I've worked hard to isolate my G5 from these power line fluctuations, it's on its own circuit breaker, has its own UPC, but neither of these has helped enough to stop these intermittent power-off instances. It happens about once every couple weeks or so, and always powers up again instantly without problems other than those related to the power-off. My UPC DOES seem to catch about half of these power-off cycles, BUT, it's a royal pain- in-the-ass because when the UPC catches the glitch it has an alarm, a high-pitched shrill alarm, and the alarm turns off when you press a button, BUT pressing the button results in an instant power-off of the G5, so you can't just press the reset on the UPC, you first must Shutdown the G5 and then reset the UPC, so it nearly defeats the entire purpose of the UPC. When I'm gone, the alarm has bothered my pets for 8-12 hours at a time. About half the times the UPC alarm doesn't sound at all, and the G5 just "stops" cold, one second fine, the next off. The monitor and other hardware don't seem affected by these power line glitches, only the G5 itself. If so how hard are the power supplies to replace in these towers? I believe it's very difficult. They're expensive also. Apple wanted over $800 for their work on mine, and that's what the warranty receipt said, something like $875 in total work, with the power supply unit being near $400 I think? Your G5 is different than mine. Mine is air-cooled. Yours is liquid- cooled. Yours should have came from the group covered in the extended warranty. People say that you really need to watch for corrosion in the liquid-cooled G5's. They also say that you should never power-off a liquid-cooled G5 because this is what causes the corrosion. The is anecdotal evidence from schools and businesses that have large quantities of liquid-cooled G5's running and they noticed that the ones that were never powered-off didn't have problems with leakage or corrosion. The idea is that by having the fluid always circulating and always at constant temperature there's no corrosion, but when it stops circulating and cools on a daily basis this causes corrosion and leakage. I don't know if anyone has added automotive radiator stop- leak additives to their coolant in a G5, but it might not be a bad idea if you see any signs of corrosion and still have a working power supply unit. My understanding is that as soon as they start leaking the power supplies blow once they get wet at all. Once they blow, they don't startup again. If your G5 is still starting after these intermittent power-off events, it's NOT a blown power supply, and mine has been having these events for several years now without any other problems. I'm almost 100% certain my problem is caused by power line voltage or amperage drops of some sort rather than anything specific to a power supply failure. When then fail, they don't startup any more. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://
Re: Sudden power loss in G5
Leo, Power supplies are a bitch requiring removing almost everything. My 2.3 dual core went abruptly with a flash and a stench. However, you may be having problems with coolant leaking onto your electronics, which is worse. Check this out IMMEDIATELY! Fine machine otherwise! - Peter - Original Message - From: "Leo Hoyt" To: "G-Group" Sent: Monday, January 3, 2011 10:55:07 AM Subject: Sudden power loss in G5 I have a dual 2.7 Ghz PPC G5 w/ 4.5 GB ram. The machine recently started powering off without warning. Is this signs of a power supply failing? If so how hard are the power supplies to replace in these towers? Thanks for the help. Leo -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Sudden power loss in G5
I have a dual 2.7 Ghz PPC G5 w/ 4.5 GB ram. The machine recently started powering off without warning. Is this signs of a power supply failing? If so how hard are the power supplies to replace in these towers? Thanks for the help. Leo -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iChat and YouTube on a G4 Cube
On Jan 3, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 3, 2011, at 9:56 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Playing video is not a problem its the streaming stuff like YouTube, iChat and Skype. Compared to my G4 1.25 MDD and G5 2.7 PowerMac the Cube isn't in the hunt even though it's got a 1.2 GHz processor. Yes it DOES have to do with the video card. 10.4 offloads a bunch of processing to the video GPU if possible (and it's not just Core Video stuff). Streaming video is MUCH more CPU intensive than DVD playback. (This was covered in exhaustive detail on this list a month or so back), so anything that can be moved to the much-faster GPU really makes a difference. Also a Geforce 6200 is a much newer card than a GeForce3, iirc. -- My MDD has a Radeon Pro 9000 4x 64 MB card where as the Cube has a 2X slot with a 64 MB GeForce card, So using the smooth operation of the MDD 1.25 as a standard I assume the video card in the cube is adequate. Also one of my "Cubies" has a Nvidia 6800 256MB 256-Bit w/ Fan in his 1.7 Cube and no joy on ichat or Skype, This is where we seem to think the Bus speed is the bottle neck. So far I've heard from no one who claims to have a smooth, in sync, iChat or Skype experience on a Cube in any configuration. i JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iChat and YouTube on a G4 Cube
On Jan 3, 2011, at 9:56 AM, John Carmonne wrote: > Playing video is not a problem its the streaming stuff like YouTube, iChat > and Skype. Compared to my G4 1.25 MDD and G5 2.7 PowerMac the Cube isn't in > the hunt even though it's got a 1.2 GHz processor. Yes it DOES have to do with the video card. 10.4 offloads a bunch of processing to the video GPU if possible (and it's not just Core Video stuff). Streaming video is MUCH more CPU intensive than DVD playback. (This was covered in exhaustive detail on this list a month or so back), so anything that can be moved to the much-faster GPU really makes a difference. Also a Geforce 6200 is a much newer card than a GeForce3, iirc. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iChat and YouTube on a G4 Cube
On Jan 3, 2011, at 8:39 AM, dc wrote: On Jan 2, 2:24 pm, John Carmonne wrote: I seem to have run into a bottle neck on my Cube 1.2GHz 1.5 GB RAM in that I can't get a YouTube to play smooth and iChat is out of sync on the sound along with very jumpy video. It sounds like the Cube is nicely upgraded, the weak link may be the video card. My Cube has a GeForce 6200, a popular upgrade for the Cube, and it plays video pretty well (considering its age!). I have a GeForce 3 card that replaced a Radeon 7500 so I think that would discount the video card plus the display is only a Apple Studio 17" ADC. Playing video is not a problem its the streaming stuff like YouTube, iChat and Skype. Compared to my G4 1.25 MDD and G5 2.7 PowerMac the Cube isn't in the hunt even though it's got a 1.2 GHz processor. I still need to check some more things that Dan suggested I'm not alone with this problem It's hard to find folks that use a Cube or any slow Bus machine for iChat or Skype, hence the confusion as to the video performance. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iChat and YouTube on a G4 Cube
On Jan 2, 2:24 pm, John Carmonne wrote: > I seem to have run into a bottle neck on my Cube 1.2GHz 1.5 GB RAM in that I > can't get a YouTube to play smooth and iChat is out of sync on the sound > along with very jumpy video. It sounds like the Cube is nicely upgraded, the weak link may be the video card. My Cube has a GeForce 6200, a popular upgrade for the Cube, and it plays video pretty well (considering its age!). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Couple of G4 dig. Audio Issues
At 2:23 PM -0800 1/2/2011, DLC wrote: Apparently, he wants to replicate the "lock screen" action found on Windows (I believe it is the MS key plus l - I really am not sure what that does except maybe do a quick screen blank which requires password entry upon wakeup) - short of logging out or invoking the screen saver, I was not aware of such an action on OS X (his unit is on 10.4.11). I've seen some 3rd party applets that will do a blank screen; check MacUpdate. *shrug* IMO, better to just enable the password to get out of the screen saver. Then the user can shove the mouse into the activate hot-corner and it's ON. His report on command-option-q is above, but I cannot replicate it on my Tiger iBook. cmd-opt-q does nothing on my Mac either. cmd-shift-q is logout tho. The "popular" You Tube stuttering issue - again, he is using Fire Fox (latest flavor I presume) in OS 10.4.11 on a 733MHz Dig. Audio, which is equipped w/ 1.5 Gb RAM and a 64 Mb NVidia "TwinView" video card pulled from a 800MHz DP QuickSilver. The main cause of YouTube stutter is network throughput. On my QuickSilver, I've seen YouTube's flash go smoothly when I'm getting a steady 800+ Kbps throughput. But if it dips lower, things start stuttering badly. Try adding "&fmt=5" to the YouTube urls. This tells YouTube to serve up a lower compression / resolution video, that is often easier for older machines to render. HTH, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PPC kext repository?
At 12:51 PM -0800 1/2/2011, turn wrote: There seems to be a lot of Intel kext development going on in the hackintosh community. Does anyone know of *any* open source or other public domain or publicly available kext PPC development? There are some open source projects that involve drivers. I'm not sure why, other than for some collector's jones, a "kext repository" would ever be needed. Drivers are useful for a specific device or a class thereof - so they belong with the support for said device. I am mostly thinking about drivers for PCI cards: via chipset USB card, multiport NIC cards, SATA/PATA cards, and WiFi cards. There are a lot of inexpensive PCI components coming out now but still most are not supported on my G4. Seems if drivers could be ported it would extend the usefulness of the machines. I like the idea of making more devices available for our older machines, but I wonder as to the practicality? My experience has been that a lot of those "pc only" devices are crapola. They're cheap - both in price and quality. A better quality product is usually more cost effective and higher performance. As to developing kexts... Get into XCode. Apple has some great tutorials and such. There are also a number of XCode programming books available. Recall that Darwin - the core of OS X, is open source. I would expect the class drivers and such would all be there for your perusal / use. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iChat and YouTube on a G4 Cube
At 1:48 PM -0800 1/2/2011, John Carmonne wrote: 3 GB's per second Time Warner RoadRunner turbo "Talladega Fast" Run some traceroutes to the destination, to make sure there isn't a problem between you. Why do you think some bus speed is involved? Playing video is very CPU intensive, not memory or i/o intensive. My MDD 1.25 and Cube have the exact same CCC'd system so I thought because the Cube Bus is 100 and the MDD is 167 this is the only difference in the machines the Cubes video card is GeForce 3. Also one of My TiBooks 867 is 133 bus and iChat is better than the Cube but not as good as the G4 MDD or the G5 PowerMac so the faster processors only seem to do well on the faster Bus for the streaming AV? Ok. Run Activity Monitor and watch the paging and i/o rates. > Do YouTube vids clean up if you add &fmt=5 to the end of the url? ? > Try Yahoo! Messenger's video. Is it smooth? Are you having playing other videos? DVD's play perfect. The iChat and Skype is all I'm bothered with. DVDs playing fine means that your CPU, GPU, memory bus speed, and disk i/o speed are fine. Can you play streamed videos from sites such as hulu? Again - try Yahoo! Messenger's video. I suggest this because if it works ok then the problem is not your basic network connectivity etc. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: "No Valid Packages" Error ???
On 2011/01/02 19:23, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jan 2, 2011, at 7:47 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote: I get an error message informing me that "First Aid Failed! Disk Utility stopped repairing permissions on "HD" because the following error: "No Valid Packages" I told George that he had "no valid packages", and he agreed, but we'd still like to have his Mac run smoother. Suggestions appreciated. Repairing Permissions rarely does any good Cliff, repairing permissions only fixes… permissions. It does not make things "run smoother." When George tries to access something that he should be able to access, but cannot, then it is time to repair permissions. Packages are stored in /Library/Receipts, it might be worth taking a look to see if the folder contains any packages (.pkg) or not. Perhaps they've been deleted along the way by someone who decided that they did not need "receipts". Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
