Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-13 Thread Jonas Lopez
Sorry Alex, I was refering to the fact that MS has some 90+% of the business and military market based upon the programs running that are owned as the creator by MS. So as to have been a fly on the wall in Apples core meetings, it was clear that the way to increase market is to change chip set

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-13 Thread Bruce Johnson
On May 13, 2011, at 1:50 PM, Ralph Green wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 09:46 -0700, Bruce Johnson wrote: >> On May 12, 2011, at 7:33 PM, Ralph Green wrote: >> >>> I called Apple hardware treacherous. I did not come up with >>> that term. It is widely used, >> >> No it isn't because you're t

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-13 Thread Ralph Green
On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 09:46 -0700, Bruce Johnson wrote: > On May 12, 2011, at 7:33 PM, Ralph Green wrote: > > > I called Apple hardware treacherous. I did not come up with > > that term. It is widely used, > > No it isn't because you're the only person I've ever read or heard making > that c

Re: TPM (was: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.)

2011-05-13 Thread peterhaas
>> I believe he's referring to TPM, not EFI. My understanding of TPM is >> that it's a set of cryptographic keys that prevents software from >> running on any "untrusted" system (meaning, "unapproved" hardware). Quite a few generic motherboard now have TPM, either on-board, or available in a plug

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-13 Thread Bruce Johnson
On May 13, 2011, at 1:01 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > On May 13, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > >> If you believe that EFI is some great conspiracy to prevent you from running >> another OS on a Mac it is YOU who doesn't understand what EFI is. > > I believe he's referring to TPM, not E

Re: TPM (was: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.)

2011-05-13 Thread Alex Barnes
I highly doubt that Apple actually decides that your Mac can run Linux or not. I have run Solaris, many different Linux distros, Winders, and Mac OS X (even the Lion Beta). I don't think Apple would waste money telling the devs to let TPM know that stuff like OpenSUSE is "trusted". -- You rece

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-13 Thread Ralph Green
Bruce, EFI is fine. BIOS had major problems, since it runs in real mode. It is TPM that is the problem. Apple certainly used TPM on their early x86 hardware. If they have removed it, that is a good thing. I will have to search for some real evidence on that matter. Ralph On Fri, 2011-05-13

Re: TPM (was: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.)

2011-05-13 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 13-05-2011 22:01, Kris Tilford ha scritto: > I believe he's referring to TPM, not EFI. My understanding of TPM is > that it's a set of cryptographic keys that prevents software from > running on any "untrusted" system (meaning, "unapproved" hardware). AFAIK, is rather the opposite: the "

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-13 Thread Kris Tilford
On May 13, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: If you believe that EFI is some great conspiracy to prevent you from running another OS on a Mac it is YOU who doesn't understand what EFI is. I believe he's referring to TPM, not EFI. My understanding of TPM is that it's a set of cryptogr

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-13 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 13-05-2011 20:29, Jonas Lopez ha scritto: > soon you will find Apple programs that are far superior to Microsoft Soon? This has ALWAYS been true. :-D -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particu

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-13 Thread Alex Barnes
That already happened. I have found that iMovie is superior to WMM and iWork is far, far superior to M$ Office (even AppleWorks is better). On May 13, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: > > As Apple moves into bigger market share, soon you will find Apple programs > that are far superior to

Re: itunes

2011-05-13 Thread Trinette Johnson
What kinda of files are you trying to burn in iTunes? Also the drivers might need a upgrade for your device. Sent from my iPod On May 7, 2011, at 9:56 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: > PM G4 933 10.4.11 iTunes 9.2.1 > > Hi everyone. iTunes plays fine but if I go to burn a cd, I get "The > a

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-13 Thread Jonas Lopez
What is going on here is the long known fact that Microsoft is a SOFTWARE company not a hardware company and Apple is BOTH SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE company. You sure can be sure that Apple has NO INTENTION of letting ANY of its software run on all this hardware that IS NOT APPLE and that Apple did

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-13 Thread Bruce Johnson
On May 12, 2011, at 7:33 PM, Ralph Green wrote: > I called Apple hardware treacherous. I did not come up with > that term. It is widely used, No it isn't because you're the only person I've ever read or heard making that claim. > because Apple sells hardware that obeys > Apple and not the

Re: Help with Mac OS9 Drivers, running in OS-X/Classic

2011-05-13 Thread jsmanson
Thanks Bruce - it is working just fine on OS9, I was just seeing if there was a 'fix' to pop this thing into a window in OS-X, and it doesn't look like it is possible. National Instruments does provide a developers toolkit, so one could I guess in theory write one, but it's probably not worth the

Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.

2011-05-13 Thread Bruce Johnson
On May 12, 2011, at 6:48 PM, Ralph Green wrote: > but the fact that Apple releases enablers to allow other operating > systems to run seems to indicate that the TPM is really there and > implemented. Apple releases Windows drivers for it's hardware, not 'enablers for other operating systems'