bots

2011-12-23 Thread Lawrence David Eden
Listers, I recently got a message from Xfinity (my internet provider) that there may be a BOT on one or more of my computers. IMMEDIATE ATTENTION REQUIRED Dear XFINITY Customer, Constant Guard from XFINITY identified that one or more of your computers may be infected with a bot. A bot is

Re: bots

2011-12-23 Thread Bill Connelly
On Dec 23, 2011, at 9:34 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Macs don't get infected easily, so I am not sure if I need to take action or not. Xfinity is offering Norton Security Suite to Mac using customers for free. Is there any harm in installing this software? I have been avoiding

Re: bots

2011-12-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 23, 2011, at 7:34 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Listers, I recently got a message from Xfinity (my internet provider) that there may be a BOT on one or more of my computers. IMMEDIATE ATTENTION REQUIRED Dear XFINITY Customer, Constant Guard from XFINITY identified that one

10.4 or 10.5 for a G4

2011-12-23 Thread Neal
I need to go to 10.4 or 10.5 on the G4 I am using. It runs at 350 MHz and has 1 Gb of SDRAM. Money is an important consideration. Thanks, Neal -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on

Re: 10.4 or 10.5 for a G4

2011-12-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 23, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Neal wrote: I need to go to 10.4 or 10.5 on the G4 I am using. It runs at 350 MHz and has 1 Gb of SDRAM. Money is an important consideration. Whenever possible it's usually best (in terms of ongoing compatiblity) to run the latest supported version of an OS

Why I hate html mail reason #3455, and like Mail

2011-12-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
http://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/miscjunk/whyihatehtmlmailno3455.png This was an email I got. The yellow box appeared when I hovered over the link. No Apple hasn't outsourced their customer support to some unknown domain. Bad phishers, bad! -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of

Re: 10.4 or 10.5 for a G4

2011-12-23 Thread Eric Hall
I'd go 10.4. It will perform much better on your G4. I have a 1 ghz cpu upgrade, and even so, 10.5 is much more sluggish. I'm running 10.4 - Macs of this vintage need any performance improvement you can give them in this modern world.  Besides, I don't think 10.5 will run on a 350mhz cpu...

Re: 10.4 or 10.5 for a G4

2011-12-23 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 23-12-2011 17:32, Neal ha scritto: I need to go to 10.4 or 10.5 on the G4 I am using. It runs at 350 MHz and has 1 Gb of SDRAM. AFAIK, 10.4 can be slightly faster than 10.5. SInce your G4 is a mere 350MHz, unless you have good reasons to favour 10.5, I'd go for 10.4 (it still has

Re: Why I hate html mail reason #3455, and like Mail

2011-12-23 Thread peterhaas
No Apple hasn't outsourced their customer support to some unknown domain. I can confirm that as I used to be married to the Director of that specific area within Apple. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs -

Re: 10.4 or 10.5 for a G4

2011-12-23 Thread Dan
At 8:32 AM -0800 12/23/2011, Neal wrote: I need to go to 10.4 or 10.5 on the G4 I am using. It runs at 350 MHz and has 1 Gb of SDRAM. What Bruce said. Plus, once you've got either OS running, disable Spotlight's indexing. It slows things down greatly, which will be an issue at 350 MHz.

Re: Why I hate html mail reason #3455, and like Mail

2011-12-23 Thread Dan
At 11:34 AM -0700 12/23/2011, Bruce Johnson wrote: No Apple hasn't outsourced their customer support to some unknown domain. LOL The geniuses at Chase Bank have hired a company to handle their email, that has in turn hired an ex-spammer to do the actual SMTP work. So now all the phishes

Re: Why I hate html mail reason #3455, and like Mail

2011-12-23 Thread Len Gerstel
On Dec 23, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Dan wrote: At 11:34 AM -0700 12/23/2011, Bruce Johnson wrote: No Apple hasn't outsourced their customer support to some unknown domain. LOL The geniuses at Chase Bank have hired a company to handle their email, that has in turn hired an ex-spammer to do the

Re: bots

2011-12-23 Thread Baldassare Guzzo
Do you like Sophos too? Think I read here on the list that Sophos was pretty good for us. Is clamxav better? On Dec 23, 2011, at 7:34 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Listers, I recently got a message from Xfinity (my internet provider) that there may be a BOT on one or more of my

Re: 10.4 or 10.5 for a G4

2011-12-23 Thread Kris Tilford
Neal wrote: It runs at 350 MHz Bruce replied: 10.5 should run ok on that system. You'd need Leopard Assist or some way to overcome the 866 MHz limitation of Leopard. Bruce's keep an eye out for cheap upgrades was sage advice. The sweet spot has long passed this old Mac and you

Re: bots

2011-12-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 23, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: Do you like Sophos too? Think I read here on the list that Sophos was pretty good for us. Is clamxav better? Sophos was good, years ago, but they haven't kept up. The Windows version is at 9.something and is now called Sophos Endpoint

Re: bots

2011-12-23 Thread Len Gerstel
On Dec 23, 2011, at 3:31 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: I've been quite happy using ClamXAv on the UA systems (which by official policy MUST have AV software running on them, which is akin to requiring all employees to get a pap smear and prostate exam every year, no exceptions...;-) but my

Re: 10.4 or 10.5 for a G4

2011-12-23 Thread John Ruschmeyer
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Neal wnle...@southwind.net wrote: I need to go to 10.4 or 10.5 on the G4 I am using. It runs at 350 MHz and has 1 Gb of SDRAM. Since 350mhz is the absolute bottom of the G4 line, I have to ask. Is this a G4 with AGP graphics (Sawtooth) or one with PCI

Re: bots

2011-12-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 23, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: Yep, had that one. Given to me on a floppy from an Egghead computer store with other freeware and shareware for my Plus. Somewhere at home I have that very first box of Egghead disks I bought when we house-sat for a co-worker whose spouse,

Re: bots

2011-12-23 Thread Bruce Ryan
Can't resist any longer... (clipping those resistor leads were literally more nerve-wracking than anything I've done since, including my wedding day.) but that's because you don't clip resistor leads to your new spouse - or even to a spouse of many years, I hope. Bruce -- You received

Re: bots

2011-12-23 Thread Len Gerstel
On Dec 23, 2011, at 4:06 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 23, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: I was such a complete rank newb that I didn't know how to eject disks, and resorted to Norton Disk Tools eject function, leaving ghost images of all these floppies up on the desktop.

Re: bots

2011-12-23 Thread Edward Treen
On 23 Dec 2011, at 16:16, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 23, 2011, at 7:34 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Listers, I recently got a message from Xfinity (my internet provider) that there may be a BOT on one or more of my computers. IMMEDIATE ATTENTION REQUIRED Dear XFINITY Customer,

Re: bots

2011-12-23 Thread Illirik Smirnov
Also, I enjoy throttling down my network bandwidth to kill everything that uses the network that you launched, and throttle the bandwidth down to something tiny (say 20kbits/s) and checking how the background CPU usage changes. If it falls severely, then you may have a bot. Illirik Smirnov if

Re: bots

2011-12-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 23, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Edward Treen wrote: Bruce, Yet again you've educated me. Was unaware of Private Eye - it's now installed and I love it. So was I until I went looking for it...Little Snitch was the only one I knew off the top of my head. -- Bruce Johnson University of

Re: bots

2011-12-23 Thread glen
From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu See EVERYONE starts out as a newbie at some point...:-) It was about 6 months later that I got my own first Mac, proudly paying $850 for a demo model Mac Plus at a computer store closeout sale, incidentally racking up my very first bit of

Re: 10.4 or 10.5 for a G4

2011-12-23 Thread W. Neal Lewis
Dan, A Leopard disc may cost a bit more but it's worth it... The final vers of many ppc apps require it. I was not aware of that. Will they not install under 10.4? Let me know. Thanks, Neal Lewis -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using

Re: 10.4 or 10.5 for a G4

2011-12-23 Thread W. Neal Lewis
Eric, I'd go 10.4. It will perform much better on your G4. I have a 1 GHz CPU upgrade, and even so, 10.5 is much more sluggish. I'm running 10.4 - Macs of this vintage need any performance improvement you can give them in this modern world. I'm all for a bit more speed. I think 10.5.11 is

Re: 10.4 or 10.5 for a G4

2011-12-23 Thread W. Neal Lewis
Valter, Valter Prahlad wrote: AFAIK, 10.4 can be slightly faster than 10.5. A good point. . . . 10.4 (it still has Classic support also, that was dropped in 10.5). Is Sheep Shaver the answer to that? Honestly, though, I'm afraid you would find OSX painfully slow on your G4. It came

Re: 10.4 or 10.5 for a G4

2011-12-23 Thread W. Neal Lewis
Bruce, Whenever possible it's usually best (in terms of ongoing compatiblity) to run the latest supported version of an OS for your system. I'd also keep an eye out for cheap CPU upgrades, or even a newer system...in fact it's probably cheaper to buy a newer system that comes with 10.5 than