Re: Yosemite 400mhz rev2, AT&T rv100, apple DVD player conundrum

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jun 5, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Jesse Stjohn wrote:

> apple DVD player won't work due to error 21, some tripe about having to stop 
> using other programs, or I don't have the hardware to use the software. 
> Whatever. My video is Not the rage or rage pro but the radeon 7000. I do have 
> updated drivers from ati and it is as good as Mac os 9 gets.  Any help would 
> be nice and apple DVD ver is 1.2

This is OS 9, make sure there isn't some bit of a program like Toast or 
something in the extensions that's glomming onto the DVD. I've seen this in the 
past as well (although this was in OS 8 not 9) when a failed burn left bits 
laying about.

Error -21 is "Driver ref num doesn't match unit table" per Apple's old error 
codes , which 
sounds like an issue with the drive, as well. 

Does it read a data disk? COuld it simply be a failing DVD drive?

If it's not one of those, what I'd usually do is re-apply the latest combo 
update for OS 9, replace the various bits that might be corrupted.

I'm sure there's some troubleshooting steps I'm forgetting, it's been a long, 
Long time since I messed with the classic OS...

-- 
Bruce Johnson

"Wherever you go, there you are" B. Banzai,  PhD

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Yosemite 400mhz rev2, AT&T rv100, apple DVD player conundrum

[Jesse Stjohn]

Ok so I have Mac os 9.2 on my Yosemite with a gig of ram and 400mhz  CPU, went 
to play a DVD, and golly wouldn't you know, it doesn't work, play or anything 
else. Everything works in my machine (sound, USB, video, DVD-rom) and I have no 
conflicting wares as far as I know. It does read DVDs(also burned DVDs as a 
storage medium as well) but apple DVD player won't work due to error 21, some 
tripe about having to stop using other programs, or I don't have the hardware 
to use the software. Whatever. My video is Not the rage or rage pro but the 
radeon 7000. I do have updated drivers from ati and it is as good as Mac os 9 
gets.  Any help would be nice and apple DVD ver is 1.2

We Are making use of this for the kids obsessive Dora the explorer and max and 
ruby marathons, so any clues how to make it work would be fabulous. 

Unfortunately at the moment my only net is on my phone so I can't get it online 
or update it. 

I suck I know...


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Re: G4 not waking up well

[JoeTaxpayer]

The Bad Board was Powercolor ATI Radeon 7000 64MB PCI

It put out a great picture, digital analog and video to TV outputs,
but killed the sleep on the G4s.

So now both my machines in home office can sleep. Next, is to find the
quiet(er) fans from the dead G4s.

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Re: G4 not waking up well

[JoeTaxpayer]

You guys were right, the video card itself was the issue.
The good one's card had no name I could share, but I pulled the two
cards out of the "insomniac" Mac, and it's running fine.

I'll swap cards into other working Mac (There were two cards in bad
one) to identify bad video card. I also have cards from the two G4s
with bad power supplies. So I'm now good to go.
I'd never have suspected these cards to be the issue. Much thanks.
/Joe


On Jun 5, 4:22 pm, Clark Martin  wrote:
> Sent from an iPhone, don't ask whose.
>
> On Jun 5, 2012, at 1:03 PM, JoeTaxpayer  wrote:
>
> > First, I am a bit OCD. I got carried away with my love of the G4, and
> > own 5. One bought new at list price the other 4 off eBay.
> > Two have power supplies that bit the dust. So three are still well.
> > The three are all running Leopard. Two of the three go to sheep and
> > wake up nicely. One has an issue. On waking, the screen is hosed. It's
> > not viewable and can't recover. So, this machine can't be put to
> > sleep.
>
> I ran into this recently. Swapping the video card resolves it. I think the 
> the card was an older design and wasn't fully supported by the driver.
> What is the model of video card in the in-sleep able machine.

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Re: G4 not waking up well

[Clark Martin]

Sent from an iPhone, don't ask whose.

On Jun 5, 2012, at 1:03 PM, JoeTaxpayer  wrote:

> First, I am a bit OCD. I got carried away with my love of the G4, and
> own 5. One bought new at list price the other 4 off eBay.
> Two have power supplies that bit the dust. So three are still well.
> The three are all running Leopard. Two of the three go to sheep and
> wake up nicely. One has an issue. On waking, the screen is hosed. It's
> not viewable and can't recover. So, this machine can't be put to
> sleep.
> 

I ran into this recently. Swapping the video card resolves it. I think the the 
card was an older design and wasn't fully supported by the driver. 
What is the model of video card in the in-sleep able machine. 

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Re: G4 not waking up well

[Valter Prahlad]

Il giorno 5-06-2012 22:03, JoeTaxpayer ha scritto:

> Two of the three go to sheep and
> wake up nicely. One has an issue. On waking, the screen is hosed. It's
> not viewable and can't recover. So, this machine can't be put to
> sleep.

AFAIK, some PCI cards create problem to the sleep state.
I think I had a SCSI card (Adaptec) that forbade sleeping my G4.
Do you have any PCI card in your "sleepless" G4?

I seem to remember that Apple System Profiler told something like "This
Macintosh cannot sleep because of card XYZ", but I cannot remember where it
did say that.

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G4 not waking up well

[JoeTaxpayer]

First, I am a bit OCD. I got carried away with my love of the G4, and
own 5. One bought new at list price the other 4 off eBay.
Two have power supplies that bit the dust. So three are still well.
The three are all running Leopard. Two of the three go to sheep and
wake up nicely. One has an issue. On waking, the screen is hosed. It's
not viewable and can't recover. So, this machine can't be put to
sleep.
I've done the math, and leaving these puppies on 24/7 costs $16/mo. So
I prefer to keep them asleep when I can. Any ideas here?
I have two in my home office, and the one I've been using is the sleep
deprived one, so I'm tempted to swap drives and see if the problem is
with the hardware or follows the drives/OS.

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Re: ATI agp 7500 mac or not

[t...@io.com]

On May 31, 9:41 pm, Valter Prahlad 
wrote:
> Il giorno 31-05-2012 23:36, David W. Morris ha scritto:

> IIRC, his it's an AGP G4 450.
> I think the FireGL X3 would be overkill in a 450 MHz Mac. :-)

But it couldn't hurt, right?   I've seen the FireGL X3 cards on Ebay
for ~ $25 each recently.  And, according to the very long thread on
the Strange Dogs forum, if you convert a FireGL, the digital DVI will
work, because the FireGL card actually has the mumble chip (Silicon
Image?) which the regular PC X800's lack.

There's a lot to be said for having an X800 class card with two
working DVI ports and no ADC port.  That ADC port on Apple's video
cards is a giant pain in the posterior.

Jeff Walther

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Anyone Else Buy Powerlogix 1.0Ghz G3 From Alan Cottrill?

[t...@io.com]

He placed a FS ad in the LEM Swap list on Apr. 25th, and has claimed
that he shipped it three different times, with various excuses
afterwards, except the latest--haven't heard from him in over a week,
after the latest claim of shipping.  Needless to say, I have not
received the item, so I'm wondering if he sold it to more than one
person.

The middle excuse was that he was in the hospital, so it is possible
that he's been re-hospitalized.   But, he said he had shipped it, not
that he would ship it, so if he wasn't lying, it should have arrived
over a week ago.

So, anyone else have any useful insight?

Thanks,

Jeff Walther

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Re: PPC G5 DP 1.8 minus 1 CPU

[johnhios]

johnhios wrote:

Les wrote:

My PPC G5 dual proc 1.8 Ghz running OS X 10.4.11, is indicating only
>1 cpu in activity monitor.

Further development:
I have performed the following: re-seated memory, blown out dust, 
reset NVRAM, Run Applejack, Onyx.

The machine is now exhibiting totally random behavior upon start-up
NO bong
Grey screen with circle and diagonal icon
Black start-up screen
Blue start-up screen with text on black background : system failure: 
cpu=0 code=  (debugging trap) exception state (sv=0x3OCB2780)
Blue screen with black rectangle box with text : you need to restart 
your computer. Hold down the power button.etc

SPOD while attempting to start-up
Successful start, Activity monitor shows TWO cpus  and after a few 
minutes, system freezes. No mouse movement, no clock
Successful start, Activity monitor indicates 1 cpu all apps work fine 
for a couple of hours (like the present moment ), subsequently 
followed by tremendous loud continuous high intensity fan activity   
and SPOD, after which I manually shut down with power button


Also, at times, the following error log:
Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access 
DAR=0x0004 PC=0x00082D04

Latest crash info for cpu 0:
   Exception state (sv=0x41B05000)
  PC=0x00082D04; MSR=0x9030; DAR=0x0004; 
DSISR=0x4200; LR=0x000642AC; R1=0x17753830; XCP=0x000C (0x300 
- Data access)

  Backtrace:
0x0006423C 0x00063E14 0x00069A8C 0x00069D54 0x0006528C 0x0009B590
 0x00069D20 0x0006528C 0x00040154 0x0026B868 0x00290E10 
0x00290F1C 0x00296B40 0x002ABDB8

 0x000ABD30 0x
 backtrace terminated - frame not mapped or invalid: 0xF007FCC0

Proceeding back via exception chain:
   Exception state (sv=0x41B05000)
  previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...
   Exception state (sv=0x41AE4500)
  PC=0x9001B08C; MSR=0xD030; DAR=0x0AC3F2E0; 
DSISR=0x4200; LR=0x00017CD8; R1=0xF007FCC0; XCP=0x0030 (0xC00 
- System call)


Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10 18:26:00 PDT 2007; 
root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC

panic(cpu 0 caller 0x0003): 0x300 - Data access
Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
  Backtrace:
 0x000954F8 0x00095A10 0x00026898 0x000A8204 0x000ABB80
Proceeding back via exception chain:
   Exception state (sv=0x41B05000)
  PC=0x00082D04; MSR=0x9030; DAR=0x0004; 
DSISR=0x4200; LR=0x000642AC; R1=0x17753830; XCP=0x000C (0x300 
- Data access)

  Backtrace:
0x0006423C 0x00063E14 0x00069A8C 0x00069D54 0x0006528C 0x0009B590
 0x00069D20 0x0006528C 0x00040154 0x0026B868 0x00290E10 
0x00290F1C 0x00296B40 0x002ABDB8

 0x000ABD30 0x
 backtrace terminated - frame not mapped or invalid: 0xF007FCC0

   Exception state (sv=0x41AE4500)
  PC=0x9001B08C; MSR=0xD030; DAR=0x0AC3F2E0; 
DSISR=0x4200; LR=0x00017CD8; R1=0xF007FCC0; XCP=0x0030 (0xC00 
- System call)


Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10 18:26:00 PDT 2007; 
root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC
Model: PowerMac7,3, BootROM 5.1.8f7, 1 processors, PowerPC G5  (2.2), 
1.8 GHz, 1 GB

Graphics: GeForce FX 5200, GeForce FX 5200, AGP, 64 MB
Memory Module: DIMM0/J11, 512 MB, DDR SDRAM, PC3200U-30330
Memory Module: DIMM1/J12, 512 MB, DDR SDRAM, PC3200U-30330
Modem: MicroDash, UCJ, V.92, 1.0F, APPLE VERSION 2.6.6
Network Service: Built-in Ethernet, Ethernet, en0
Serial ATA Device: Maxtor 6Y080M0, 76.33 GB
Serial ATA Device: ST3500418AS, 465.76 GB
Parallel ATA Device: SONY DVD RW DW-U21A
USB Device: Hub in Apple USB Keyboard, Mitsumi Electric, Up to 12 
Mb/sec, 500 mA
USB Device: Microsoft IntelliMouse® Explorer, Microsoft, Up to 1.5 
Mb/sec, 100 mA
USB Device: Apple USB Keyboard, Mitsumi Electric, Up to 1.5 Mb/sec, 
220 mA


I attempted to remove the rear fan assembly, but couldn't get past 
removing the metal cover with 2 G5 logos.

Any help is greatly appreciated
Cheers, Les





if I find a moment or two I will send you step by step photos on this 
@mail [??] to you .
it is not hard but do a test first on some dead mac g5 before you try 
it out on yours ...


as for the symptoms  try to let  the g5 rest  for some time  like a 
vacation unplug it and for get it for 2months  then start it 
up again.


I have the same problem with mine ..  the is not how to fix it but 
how to live with it !!!
what happens is, the cpus are not reciving electricity so it could be 
some resistor  from the  power  unit>on the logic board> in the cpu's 
> bla -bla  SAY did you have any usb plug problems  any time 


get back to you soon
joho





well if it works let it be ,
but still pick up a second mac g5  and work then.  two months the one,  
then two months the other,
I work on mime 18 hours a day  at 70%  I had many different and strange 
things happen...


had one crap out died just like that.
black screen  the light flashing thee times  thing was dead as a 
doornail !!!
put it on side

Re: PPC G5 DP 1.8 minus 1 CPU

[johnhios]

Les wrote:

My PPC G5 dual proc 1.8 Ghz running OS X 10.4.11, is indicating only
>1 cpu in activity monitor.

Further development:
I have performed the following: re-seated memory, blown out dust, 
reset NVRAM, Run Applejack, Onyx.

The machine is now exhibiting totally random behavior upon start-up
NO bong
Grey screen with circle and diagonal icon
Black start-up screen
Blue start-up screen with text on black background : system failure: 
cpu=0 code=  (debugging trap) exception state (sv=0x3OCB2780)
Blue screen with black rectangle box with text : you need to restart 
your computer. Hold down the power button.etc

SPOD while attempting to start-up
Successful start, Activity monitor shows TWO cpus  and after a few 
minutes, system freezes. No mouse movement, no clock
Successful start, Activity monitor indicates 1 cpu all apps work fine 
for a couple of hours (like the present moment ), subsequently 
followed by tremendous loud continuous high intensity fan activity   
and SPOD, after which I manually shut down with power button


Also, at times, the following error log:
Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access 
DAR=0x0004 PC=0x00082D04

Latest crash info for cpu 0:
   Exception state (sv=0x41B05000)
  PC=0x00082D04; MSR=0x9030; DAR=0x0004; DSISR=0x4200; 
LR=0x000642AC; R1=0x17753830; XCP=0x000C (0x300 - Data access)

  Backtrace:
0x0006423C 0x00063E14 0x00069A8C 0x00069D54 0x0006528C 0x0009B590
 0x00069D20 0x0006528C 0x00040154 0x0026B868 0x00290E10 
0x00290F1C 0x00296B40 0x002ABDB8

 0x000ABD30 0x
 backtrace terminated - frame not mapped or invalid: 0xF007FCC0

Proceeding back via exception chain:
   Exception state (sv=0x41B05000)
  previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...
   Exception state (sv=0x41AE4500)
  PC=0x9001B08C; MSR=0xD030; DAR=0x0AC3F2E0; DSISR=0x4200; 
LR=0x00017CD8; R1=0xF007FCC0; XCP=0x0030 (0xC00 - System call)


Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10 18:26:00 PDT 2007; 
root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC

panic(cpu 0 caller 0x0003): 0x300 - Data access
Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
  Backtrace:
 0x000954F8 0x00095A10 0x00026898 0x000A8204 0x000ABB80
Proceeding back via exception chain:
   Exception state (sv=0x41B05000)
  PC=0x00082D04; MSR=0x9030; DAR=0x0004; DSISR=0x4200; 
LR=0x000642AC; R1=0x17753830; XCP=0x000C (0x300 - Data access)

  Backtrace:
0x0006423C 0x00063E14 0x00069A8C 0x00069D54 0x0006528C 0x0009B590
 0x00069D20 0x0006528C 0x00040154 0x0026B868 0x00290E10 
0x00290F1C 0x00296B40 0x002ABDB8

 0x000ABD30 0x
 backtrace terminated - frame not mapped or invalid: 0xF007FCC0

   Exception state (sv=0x41AE4500)
  PC=0x9001B08C; MSR=0xD030; DAR=0x0AC3F2E0; DSISR=0x4200; 
LR=0x00017CD8; R1=0xF007FCC0; XCP=0x0030 (0xC00 - System call)


Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10 18:26:00 PDT 2007; 
root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC
Model: PowerMac7,3, BootROM 5.1.8f7, 1 processors, PowerPC G5  (2.2), 
1.8 GHz, 1 GB

Graphics: GeForce FX 5200, GeForce FX 5200, AGP, 64 MB
Memory Module: DIMM0/J11, 512 MB, DDR SDRAM, PC3200U-30330
Memory Module: DIMM1/J12, 512 MB, DDR SDRAM, PC3200U-30330
Modem: MicroDash, UCJ, V.92, 1.0F, APPLE VERSION 2.6.6
Network Service: Built-in Ethernet, Ethernet, en0
Serial ATA Device: Maxtor 6Y080M0, 76.33 GB
Serial ATA Device: ST3500418AS, 465.76 GB
Parallel ATA Device: SONY DVD RW DW-U21A
USB Device: Hub in Apple USB Keyboard, Mitsumi Electric, Up to 12 
Mb/sec, 500 mA
USB Device: Microsoft IntelliMouse® Explorer, Microsoft, Up to 1.5 
Mb/sec, 100 mA
USB Device: Apple USB Keyboard, Mitsumi Electric, Up to 1.5 Mb/sec, 
220 mA


I attempted to remove the rear fan assembly, but couldn't get past 
removing the metal cover with 2 G5 logos.

Any help is greatly appreciated
Cheers, Les





if I find a moment or two I will send you step by step photos on this 
@mail [??] to you .
it is not hard but do a test first on some dead mac g5 before you try it 
out on yours ...


as for the symptoms  try to let  the g5 rest  for some time  like a 
vacation unplug it 
and for get it for 2months  then start it up again.


I have the same problem with mine ..  the is not how to fix it but 
how to live with it !!!
what happens is, the cpus are not reciving electricity so it could be 
some resistor  from the  power  unit>on the logic board> in the cpu's > 
bla -bla  SAY did you have any usb plug problems  any time 


get back to you soon
joho




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