Re: Dead Seagate
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Cliff Rediger redicl...@thecriticalcrab.net wrote: Seagate 9SL154-302 ST31000528AS Barracuda 7200.12 - 1 TB SATA II . . . One morning... NOTHING. Suddenly, drive is not recognized at all. Until you can do something which PROVES that the drive is dead, do not assume that it is. It is best to approach these things as methodically as our fallible humanity allows. Does the drive spin up? If so, is it clicking? If the drive comes up without smoke and is not making weird sounds, then try the USB 2.0 connection. I've had enclosures on which the firewire failed but the USB port still worked. If the only computer you have is only USB 1.1, try it anyway. You are not going to use this connection to move large amounts of data, just to see if you can access the drive via the USB port. If both Firewire USB fail to work, pull the drive from the enclosure. If possible test it by connecting it to the SATA port of (another) computer, otherwise try a different enclosure as suggested. As for I sort of presumed one might see some sort of weirdness or gradual malfunction, yes, that is what the SMART data is for. Unfortunately, I don't think you'll be able to access a drives SMART values using the Newer Tech Mini Stack. I believe it has to either be directly connected to a computer via SATA or you need to use an enclosure with a more recent USB chipset. -irrational john -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Dead Seagate
Il giorno 08/09/13 04.45, Cliff Rediger ha scritto: This is my first HD failure. I sort of presumed one might see some sort of weirdness or gradual malfunction. FWIW, in my longish experience with computer hardware (20+ years), and several dead HDs, most of the times the failing drives manifest some problem (weird noises, failure at reading, system errors, no boot...) before really being dead for good. In most cases, I had a chance to recover most (if not all) the data from the drive before it was just a brick. Sometimes, though, a drive can be dead with no previous sign. Being such delicate mechanisms, there's several things that can (and do) go bad inside them. Anyway, I support others' advice to check the drive outside its enclosure, before giving up hope. Sometimes, connecting external drives can be ... odd. Just recently I had a couple drives that worked fine when connected to a computer, but they didn't even show up when connected to another one. Yet, HD interfaces should be amongst the most standard things. Baffling. :-| -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Dead Seagate
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it wrote: Il giorno 08/09/13 04.45, Cliff Rediger ha scritto: Sometimes, though, a drive can be dead with no previous sign. As an admittedly quite large digression, I would that this is probably the typical failure case for the current generations of SSDs. I had an Intel 330 that worked fine for 6 months or so. One day, it was just dead. Completely dead. Thank deity, Intel replaced it under warranty. I had a backup, but unfortunately it was a month or so old. No unrecoverable losses since I tend to keep my data on drives separate from the drive the OS is on. But a sudden death experience like that tends to bring one back into the flock of the church of regular, scheduled backups. Good luck with your Seagate. If it were me, the first thing I would try to check is whether the drive appears to power on and spin up its platters. If it does, then listen for weird noises as Valter suggested. Hopefully it may just be your enclosure. -irrational john -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Dead Seagate
If worse comes to worse sometimes the thing that has failed is the controller board on the hard drive itself. A couple of years ago I had a power surge that destroyed a lot of stuff including my ata133 controller and the hard drive connected to it. I had to buy and new ata 133 card and as it turned out the controller board on the hard drive itself was the only thing bad with the drive. I wasn't sure the controller board on the Hard Drive was bad but I rolled the dice and found a guy on ebay that buys old hard drives and resells the controller boards to people who have dead hard drives. It worked. I saved the drive and was able to copy all the data onto another hard drive including my 80GB iTunes collection. I thought there might be some life in the drive when I thought I heard a faint ticking noise, and I mean really faint. The replacement board cost me $40 (returning customers get a $5 discount). These controller boards have all sorts of model numbers drive names, batch numbers and manufacture dates that have to match exactly for the board to work. They provide the special screwdriver required. I would try googling hard drive controller board and your manufacturer. Mark Murphy -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Network G5 to Macbook Pro to share superdrive
On Sep 6, 2013, at 10:24 PM, Fernando Chavez nando@grandecom.net wrote: On 08/15/2013 09:23 PM, arichic...@gmail.com wrote: I need to upgrade a macbook pro to 10.6, but the internal dvd won't work. My G5 has a working dvd drive, but, of course, the 10.6 drive won't run any intel installer for me. I am under the impression that it is possible to network the G5 and the MBP such that they can share the G5's dvd drive, and yet load the 10.6 installer---as if the G5 was an external dvd. So, very simply, how do I do this, step by step? I only have an ethernet cable and a USB cable. In order for you to utilize a remote drive you will need to network the computer with the required cd/ dvd-rw component. In this case via router or switch. Do you have a 4 port router? All macs since (iirc) sometime during the G3 era have had autosensing ethernet ports; all you need to connect them is an ethernet cable. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are. B. Banzai, PhD -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Network G5 to Macbook Pro to share superdrive
It seems unlikely that a thread started on Aug.15th regarding booting an Installer Disc from another Mac hasn't been solved over 3 weeks later, but perhaps not? For certain this easy solution is to connect the two computers with a Firewire cable with the G5 booted in Target Disk Mode with the Installer DVD in the optical drive of the G5, then reboot the laptop holding the Option key and select the DVD of the G5 to boot from. To use ethernet to boot the laptop from the G5 optical drive is also possible, but slightly more complex: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2129 -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
