Quick Question
Hi all, I have just installed 10.8.3 for the first time and it takes up a lot of space. There is a file at private var vm with the name sleepimage that is 4 GB in size. Anyone know what that is? Can I delete it? There is also an Install OS X Mountain Lion.app in the appllication folder. Do I need that too? Thanks in advance, Gary -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
On Thursday, January 3, 2013 12:48:14 PM UTC+1, Gary D. wrote: Thanks guys - you're the greatest. I now have enough info and things to try to keep me busy for a couple of days. I will report back, hopefully with success. More info: The TV has an Ethernet connection but it is too far away to string a cable. I've tried TV – WLAN – Router – Ethernet – Mini as well as TV – WLAN – Router – built-in Airport – Mini, all to no avail. I have assumed that both should work if I get things right. Is that correct? The TV is a Panasonic model TX-L37ETW5 (could be a specific German designation but there should be a US equivalent). Thanks again. Gary D. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
On Thursday, January 3, 2013 5:35:15 PM UTC+1, joh...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jan 3, 2013, at 4:48 AM, Gary D. g.de...@web.de javascript: wrote: Thanks guys - you're the greatest. I now have enough info and things to try to keep me busy for a couple of days. I will report back, hopefully with success. ... and the only issue is that the two devices don't yet communicate twith each other, which is a software issue, not a networking one. Without that software, neither device is offering any services on the network that the other one knows about, so you cannot 'see' them. Bruce Johnson I am happy to report that I have been successful. Bruce was right that it is a software problem and Kris steered me to Twonky Server which was exactly what I needed (says so in the manual but I was off on another tangent. Sometimes it pays to read the manual carefully - if only they were better written.) Thanks again everyone. Gary D. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
Thanks guys - you're the greatest. I now have enough info and things to try to keep me busy for a couple of days. I will report back, hopefully with success. More info: The TV has an Ethernet connection but it is too far away to string a cable. I've tried TV – WLAN – Router – Ethernet – Mini as well as TV – WLAN – Router – built-in Airport – Mini, all to no avail. I have assumed that both should work if I get things right. Is that correct? The TV is a Panasonic model TX-L37ETW5 (could be a specific German designation but there should be a US equivalent). Thanks again. Gary D. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 1:30:49 PM UTC+1, Clark Martin wrote: Wild guess but the TV probably wants to access a SMB (Samba) server (ie Windows). Try turning that on in the Mini's Sharing prefs. Tried SMB - didn't help. Thanks anyway. Gary D. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Access Problem from TV to Mini
Pretty far OT but maybe someone can give me a tip to get me off dead center. I have a new Panasonic TV that is WLAN capable with which I have internet access (YouTube, etc.) but I have not been able to access my Mac Mini running 10.6.8 so that I can display my pictures, video clips, etc. on the TV. I have turned on sharing, set sharing using both AFP and FTP, marked folders and volumes for sharing and turned off the firewall but I still can't get connected. Entering the IP address given by the mini for access in the TV bowser brings up an can't access error message. Any ideas about what I am doing wrong or haven't taken into consideration. Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Gary D. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Music stream capture app?
On Monday, August 6, 2012 9:28:30 AM UTC+2, Kris Tilford wrote: I'm sure there are more. Yes, for example Pezio at http://rogueamoeba.com/piezo/ for $10. Supposedly simple and easy to use. I have Audio Hijack Pro - not so easy to use. Gary -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DVD won't eject
On Monday, July 16, 2012 5:02:24 PM UTC+2, gifutiger wrote: Here is what you should read and Bookmark in case you have this problem again. http://www.macinminutes.co.uk/express_tips/ejecting_stuck_disc.html It's called 16 Tips on Ejecting a stuck Slot Loading DVD Cheers Harry Thanks, Harry. That is an excellent tip and I have bookmarked it for future reference. But wait...wasn't there a sun magnetic storm last week? Could that be the reason my mini striked, my sat reveiver lost some settings and a cordless phone did strange things? Anyone else have problems or did I just have a bad day? Gary D. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DVD won't eject
On Sunday, July 15, 2012 9:25:55 AM UTC+2, Clark Martin wrote: On at least some slot loaders the eject mechanism is accessed by putting the usual straightened paper clipping the right side of the slot. On the right side of my drive slot is the infrared receiver for the remote control. I hope you are not suggesting that I poke around in there blind to try to find a eject machanism. Anyway as I said, after due consideration, my Mini decided to surrender my DVD peacefully and all is well. Thanks all, Gary D. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DVD won't eject
On Friday, July 13, 2012 2:15:52 PM UTC+2, Fluxstringer wrote: For the record, look for the tiny hole on the front. Use an unbent paper clip to push the release arm inside. For the record, Mac minis don't have a tiny hole on the front. Gary D. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DVD won't eject
On Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:40:16 PM UTC+2, Tina Holm wrote: turn it upside down and press the eject button - maybe shake it gently too that's what worked on my powerbook recently - after trying all other methods and suggestions I could find and think of Thanks Tina, I managed to solve the problem myself. The solution: left it alone overnight. It spit out the DVD normally this morning and I moved to another computer and saved the day. (Maybe it was insalted about something and wouldn't give me my DVD back - computers are capable of such things, you know.) Thanks again, Gary Dearth -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
DVD won't eject
Help! Can't get a DVD to eject. Tried the usual - mouse button held on startup, Toast Titatium 11 crashes instead of ejecting, etc. Promised a friend to convert and copy a camera video by tomorrow! Any ideas? (Macmini3,1 - early 2009 running 10.6.8). (Sorry if this is OT - I am a member of the Leopard, Macintel and Mac mini groups but there doesn't seem to be much going on there. Are they still active?) Thanks in advance. Gary D. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Mini Problem
Help! My wife's G4 Mini (A1103) is acting up and I am at the hair- pulling stage (which I can't afford to loose). The HD has two partitions: 10.5 and 10.4/9.2.2. Both partitions appear in the System Profiler and the Startup Manager as well as Disk Utility but neither in the System Preferences Startup Disk Panel. When it is switched on, it boots the 10.5 partition and runs normally. If I try to switch to the other partition with the startup manager, the spoked-wheel rotates endlessly. I have tried all the usual measures (Disk Utility repair and permissions, Disk Warrior, PRAM and NVRAM reset, 10.5.8 Combi Update, etc.). I would reinstall the 10.5 System but when the mini restarts to load the system, the OD grinds back and forth endlessly. I've let it run for 3/4 hr. to no avail although Disk Warrior loaded and ran normally from the OD. I haven't replaced the battery but it checked OK a couple of weeks back when I upgraded the RAM. Is there a preference panel that I need to to trash? Any other suggestions? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Gary -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Word list Generator???
Maybe the original poster was thinking of a concordance (look it up). Quite useful for translators to know when find and replace is worthwhile. Google has 23 million hits. If you can't find anything useful, let me know off-line. I can give you a reference or a program. Hope this helps. Gary D. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB plug case sparks
The hub works fine still, but somehow this seems wrong. Has anyone else seen sparks between USB plugs and their cases? Your might try rotating the plug of the computer OR the power supply of the hub to bring the two sources into phase although it is probably harmless. G. D. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Attatch PDF to mail PITA
On Jul 9, 5:54 pm, john CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: can stop this is to Zip it. I'm sure I have a setting or something wrong. Any one have the same problem? I have also had some strange things happening recently - maybe an update has screwed thing up. Have you tried right click or control click on the attachment? I seem to recall that there is a selection for sending an attachment either as an icon or in-line. I am no longer able to enter an attachment onto a blank page. There always needs to be at least an entry on the page before an attachment is accepted. The entry can then be deleted. Strange - I don't recall this being the case in the past. Hope this helps. Gary -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: You received this message because...
On Apr 18, 4:28 pm, John Musbach johnmusba...@gmail.com wrote: What are you talking about? This is what I'm talking about!! snip What do you mean by full screen? --Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ --You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list end snip And I assume another one will be added to this message. This behavior in new - to me at least. Once per thread should be sufficient in digest mode. As far as I can remember, that was the case in the past. Gary D. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: You received this message because...
When in Digest Mode, at the end of each and every message, the Low End Mac Footer has been repeating over and over and over again with the posting and the answer to it. Usually, and in the other LEM Lists I receive (all in Digest Mode), the footer does not carry over into the message to which one is replying. The LEM Footer appears only once at the end of the Digest. On this particular post to which I am replying now, I have deleted the footer, otherwise it'd appear twice in my answer here. Thanks for the clarification. I guess my post was a bit cryptic. Having to hunt through the You received this message ... footers to find the posts has me a bit grumpy. Gary D. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Problem with Burning Photo CD
Hi all, This is probably OT but I am pulling what is left of my hair out and running out of blank disks. The task seems quite simple: Photos of an event are to be burnt to CDs and distributed to those involved. The only complication is I wanted to include a silde show with music and Ken Burns effect which I set up in iPhoto and exported to the Desktop. From there, the xxx.mov slide show runs as expected. Then I fired up Toast and, using the Data Mode, burned it together with a folder containing the pictures to a CD. But the slide show won't run from the disk!!! It starts up ok but then quickly mixes the pictures and the sound stutters or it just quits. Other attemps haven't solved the problem. I would be very grateful if someone could tell me how to do this correctly. Thanks in advane. Gary -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: HP ScanJet 7490c issues
Having given up with HP software after my switch to 10.5/10.6, I recently bought VueScan. It is a bit wierd and requires some getting used to but the results are very good. And although there are nearly weekly updates, there is no convenient update procedure - just download and replace. Gary -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
MDD hangs on Startup
Hi all, I'm having an annoying problem with my MDD (2003) running 10.4.11 that I haven't been able to solve. It almost always hangs during the first attempt to start but nearly always starts on the second attempt. I've replaced the battery and cloned the software to another drive for startup as well as run the usual utilities but to no avail. Suspicious is that, when it doesn't start, this is in the System Log: Jan 23 15:53:22 localhost mDNSResponder: Couldn't read user-specified Computer Name; using default “Macintosh-” instead When it starts, it looks like this: Jan 23 15:55:20 GDearths-Power-Mac-G4-MDD configd[39]: setting hostname to GDearths-Power-Mac-G4-MDD.local and then runs normally. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. Gary -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Any replacement keyboards
On Jun 27, 2:53 am, James E. Therrault jetas...@worldnet.att.net wrote: Another option that gets you the old-time Apple quality is to actually get an old Apple Extended Keyboard and connect it via a Griffin Technologies iMate ADB-to-USB adapter. I haven't tried it, but some say it works -- can I get a witness? I have been doing exactly this for years - works great! G. D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrade to Leopard leaves mailboxes empty
On Mar 26, 10:47 am, Gary D. g.dea...@web.de wrote: Re Mail Problems: I am also having problems with Mail. New Mac mini, installed 10.5, ran Migration Assistant, mail boxes empty, would not get mail, would not quit, had to be forced to quit, reinstalled Mail, same situation. I will try deleting and reestablishing my accounts and report back. Gary Here is the solution to my problem: After lots of fumbling and frustration, I finally found this knowledge base article which solved the problem: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2537 Hope this helps others with this problem. Gary --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Spotlight
Greeting to all, I'm having a problem with Spotlight (sorry if OT but I will keep it short). I'm running 10.4.11 on a MDD. I have two HDD, normal and backup. I backup regulary with SuperDuper. I would like to stop Spotlight from indexing volumes on the Backup HDD so that I don't always get double results. I open the Privacy tab and drag the volumes into the window - nothing happens. I click on the + and select the volumes - nothing happens. If I drag the normal volumes into the window, everything works as advertised. Am I doing something wrong or do I have a corruption of some kind? TIA for any and all tips Gary D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Seagate HD firmware update
On Jan 18, 2009, at 3:46 AM, Paul wrote: Anyway, if I may, why are so many (not all) of my G3 posts coming through with most text underlined? Looks like an anchor closing tag in HTML is being forgotten in the manufacture of the digest... -- dorayme This results from forgetting to put a at the end of a link. Annoys me also. Gary --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
