RE: SSD for 2002 Quicksilver G4
I cannot speak specifically for the Macintosh side of things however it would appear that TRIM is capable of being passed through IDE. This happens to be through IDE to an MSATA style SSD. I would imagine that this would translate roughly the same in using a program to issue a trim command to the drive if the OS version does not natively support it and if it does I would presume that it would recognize it as an SSD and pass the TRIM command appropriately. :) http://www.overclock.net/t/1446354/amazing-find-trim-is-somehow-passed-through-the-ide-port-from-my-msata-ide-adapter -Original Message- From: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:g3-5-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of peterh...@cruzio.com Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 9:57 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: SSD for 2002 Quicksilver G4 > As the subject line says, I'm wondering if anyone has installed an SSD > in their G4? If so, would you please offer recommendations and > comments on how it performs? 2.5" SATA to PATA converters certainly exist (find them on eBay), but how would one provide the "trim" function? -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Mac OS X Server 1.2 - WAS::::: Re: Updates for Mac OS X?
A quick google search came up with this result. I read through it and it makes sense as to why it is not working and how to make it work. I do not have a cube to test this on however, anyone wanna donate one to the cause? :P Hopefully this helps ya. :) http://www.mulle-kybernetik.com/techinfos/Cube.html -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Updates for Mac OS X?
On Jul 11, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Mac User #330250 wrote: Anyone else having problem with Software Update? I am on multiple Macs and Wintel machines. Says its checking then just blips out and leaves a blank window telling you the following updates are available. Not enough time passed to complete its scan. Something is up, just don't know what. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Car computer
IPad 16 gig with vehicle bolt mount from Joy Factory would be my choice. :) Sent from my iPad On May 18, 2011, at 8:24 PM, Alexander Gomes alexcomputersolut...@gmail.com wrote: I was thinking about buying another old Pismo and using that in the car on a mount. Since the interface would be usb to the vehicles ODB port it would be simple enough to use as long as I could find a program that supports PPC processors. I'm not wanting to use intel or windows but might consider it if I have to. I still want to use an old powermac or something close, but I can at least use the pismo when I get it to test with -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Safari memory leak fixed ?
I learned many moons ago from reading Dan's responses that he is usually right 99.9 percent of the time. I have not checked it out myself to validate, but if Dan says that there is a Debug menu as well, I personally believe him. :) I may test it out on my system at home to satisfy my curiosity though. :P Sent from my iPad On May 4, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Geke gevangaste...@googlemail.com wrote: O.K. but you lost me regarding 'debug menu' (I'm running 10.5.8). Where is debug menu? Maybe he means what in my Safari 4.1.3 is called the Developer menu? You can make that appear in Safari’s Preferences/Advanced. Still, no Caches window there, but maybe the Web inspector can help? Or, to fix the problem, you could try switching Caches off there. Just guessing, waiting for the final word... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Extracting JPEGl Files From Phone Attachments
I have seen this issue when going from Mac to Pc before. Try opening the file in Preview then save it back out if it opens. Sent from my iPad On May 8, 2011, at 10:26 PM, glen glenst...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message From: Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net On May 8, 2011, at 6:04 PM, glen wrote: Most of the graphics work is done but it would be good get access to a couple of JPEG's the client has sent -- apparently from a smart phone. Why do you believe they're .jpeg format? My guess is you've got some other format. All I received are files called Attachment 5, Attachment 6. ect. I can open them in a text editor like TextEdit or in Firefox Can't you just drag 'n drop the individual photos from TextEdit or Firefox directly onto your desktop? Then open these desktop files with something like GraphicConverter or PhotoShop. Kris, If I delete all the extraneous email headers, HTML code and actual email messages I'm left with this: --_=_NextPart_006_01CC0431.20606A80-- --_=_NextPart_005_01CC0431.20606A80 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name=Eagle-Landscaping-Apr-2011.jpg Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: Eagle-Landscaping-Apr-2011.jpg Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=Eagle-Landscaping-Apr-2011.jpg /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgAAZABkAAD/7AARRHVja3kAAQAEZAAA/+4ADkFkb2JlAGTAAf/b AIQAAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQICAgICAgICAgIC AwMDAwMDAwMDAwEBAQEBAQECAQECAgIBAgIDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMD AwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMD/8AAEQgBWgIuAwERAAIRAQMRAf/EAMIAAQACAgMBAQEBAAA [Cut] this goop goes on for a number of MB's I did try saving the entire file as .jpg and opening in PhotoShop and I get the message: Could not open attachment6.jpeg because JPEG marker segment length is too short (file may be truncated or incomplete). So I assume I am not selecting and saving the proper header text info for a graphic reader to open the file properly. If I drop the entire file into PS I still get the same message. Perhaps I need to add some kind of text marker to ID the file as jpeg? --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [Manager Comment] Re: Posting Problem
I'd even cut it some more but that's a great start! 1. 68K of all flavors 2. Pre G Power Macs of all flavors 3. G Power Macs of all flavors 4. Intel Macs of all flavors 5. Software group maybe Consolidation always results in greater efficiencies. After spending a good part of my life working with process(s), simplification is always the quickest route to solutions. Just my 4¢ worth... JT I would cut it even further considering most people use the g3-g5 list server anyhow. I would make it thus: 1. LEM Support List 2. Lem Swap List 3. Lem Swap Feedback -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Mac G5, and installing OSX 10.5 on external HD
Click on the physical disk itself, go to the partition tab and set it to 1 or however many partitions you want. Go to the options tab and make sure its set to Apple Partition Map instead of Master Boot Record and then apply it. That will change it from MBR to APM which is bootable on a G5 and should then allow the install. On Feb 2, 2011, at 11:30 AM, Clmtyne wrote: I just recently got a Power Mac G5, and the hard drive is missing. So my idea is to take a external 60gig drive that I have (with Firewire 400) and install OSX 10.5 to be able to test this system. The problem that I'm having is the installation. What I'm doing is loading the OSX disk on a Powerbook and after the software examines the disk, it tells me that I can't install on this disk until I go to Disk Utility to partician the disk. After doing that it still will not allow me to install the operating system on the disk. So I need some help with this one. The disk was set up as Fat something, but I changed it to Journaled to Partician it. Does that make any difference? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drive failing!
It is a WD though. Couldn't pay me to use one. YMMV but MM has been very very bad with them. On 1/29/2011 10:34 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote: Ben's bargains has a 2TB WD from New Egg for $70 after rebate. 2TB! On Jan 29, 10:54 pm, Sean Carrollcedarwaxw...@att.net wrote: Current (failing) is a Seagate ST3250824AS 250GB Hard Drive. Seagate Barracuda, 3.5, 7200rpm, 8 MB cache, SATA. Seeking recommendations for replacement. Operator Headgap has a factory recertified Seagate Barracuda, 3.5, 7200 RPM, 32 MB cache, SATA, 750 GB going for $59 and change. http://stn2.headgap.com/resale/FMPro?-token=13626219- db=ProductsC.fp3-lay=WEB-format=items.htm-sortfield=SortID- Max=40category=intdrivessata-find Sean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Mini HDD speed
That particular Mini uses PATA interface instead of SATA. Finding an SSD in PATA could be problematic. On 1/22/2011 1:22 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote: For 2.5 why no use a SSD? On Jan 22, 1:21 pm, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: The 7200 RPM drives have faster seek times. There may also be a higher Bus speed and a larger buffer, making data access, transfer and use by software more rapid. So far as price, cyberguys.com has Western Digital IDE/ATA drives in 3.5 diameter. These have the 7200 RPM speed you're looking for and come in 160GB ($53), 250GB ($65) and 500GB ($85) capacities. Hope that helps! There are not a lot of options in the 2.5 IDE form factor, which is what the early Minis require. As there are so few offerings still available in 2.5 IDE drives, you get what you can find. OWC probably has the widest offerings. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Newer Technology MaxPower processor upgrade
On Jan 4, 2011, at 8:03 AM, faithie999 wrote: has anyone tried one of these upgrades? the 7447A or 7448? i have a Sawtooth G4 that i'd like to use for Photoshop CS5. i know it won't be blazing fast with either of these upgrades. does anyone have experience with either of these? the company's web site shows comparative speed data between each processor and the native G4 processor, but there is no data showing a comparison between the 7447A and the 7448. thanks ken I tested 3 of the 2 GHz cards when they were available about 2 years ago or so. We were looking to revitalize some of our older assets where I work. None of the 3 cards was stable. These were the 7448 series. These 3 cards went between different Macs, about 10 in all during the testing ranging from the Sawtooth, Gig-E, DA, QS2001 and QS2002. Cards didn't work reliably over one night burn in on any of the machines. OWC claimed that I didn't install them properly. Said they tested them in house when I returned them and they worked fine. My procedure was to flash the firmware on the machine, shut machine down, pull old card, put new card in and make sure firmly seated on socket and mounting lugs and snugged the bolts up, hooked up fans etc, reset PMU and was using a clean 10.4 install. Problems ranged from outright system freezes, kernel panics to programs unexpectedly quitting. Replaced these with Sonnet accelerators and had no issues. I have also gotten a lot of bad ram from OWC as of late. Of course when I RMA the ram it always tests good with them and they insult my intelligence by saying that I didn't seat the ram correctly. Of course I tested this ram in several G5 systems as well as G4MDD systems and even a few Dell PC systems and all had issues. But its the way I seat the ram YMMV -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: the big knot thingy?
Those are Ferrite Ring Filters. They are designed to help cut down on interference. Here is a link to some of the do it yourself types. http://www.camera2000.com/en/2-lots-tdk-clip-on-emi-rfi-filter-snap-around-ferrite.html On 12/24/2010 4:49 PM, Jeffrey Daile Engle wrote: ok, here's a question I've had for awhile now You know when you get firewire cables or usb cables or audio cables, you see those big black plastic cylinder things on the cord about 2 inches from the end of the cable? what are they? Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD ??
On 11/20/2010 3:48 PM, DAN A CURRIE wrote: Hello, Been years but I have a problem with my MDD, dual 1.25, 2GB RAM running 10.4. I unplugged it the other night during a t-storm, forgot to plug it back in and two days later when I did plug it in ... NOTHING! Pressed the power button on the monitor ... nothing. Pressed the power button on the MDD ... nothing. Reset CUDA ... nothing. Suggestions ... analysis Dan Dead/dying pram battery. Pull power plug, pull battery, press and hold cuda reset switch for about 5 seconds, plug power in but leave battery out and hit power. See if that doesnt bring it to life. If it does, your battery is the culprit. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerMac G3 AIO 'snapping/popping'
On 11/9/2010 1:10 AM, lrbarrios wrote: I just purchased a PowerMac G3 All-In-One from a flee market for $5. I was told that it works, so what the heck. As long as my wife doesn't find out, I'm okay. :) I powered it up tonight and it's making a 'snapping/popping' sound from under the hood -- like a bug zapper. When this happens, the CRT display also flashes. At first I just thought it might be dust. I can actually boot an OS 9.2 CD, but shortly afterwards, the machine will start snapping and popping and reboot itself. Eventually, after it gets warmed up, it's almost continually popping and interrupting the boot process. I know this can't be good for it, so I've turned it off until I can get some answers. Is it the power supply? I have experienced this phenomenon when the flyback transformer is going. Some others will be able to give better insight on the internal makeup of this model and what part you may need. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Calling Apple Script Experts
I am actually very surprised that I have received 0 responses to this. I thought sure that there would be a ton of people that were good with Applescript. Oh well, thank you to each of you that read it and tried to figure things out. On Oct 28, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Jason Brown wrote: I have a problem that I need some help with. I have an apple script that I compile into an application that checks the server it is attempting to connect to and makes sure the drives stay mapped. I will include the script as well as the tag lines of where I obtained the original script that I modified for my purposes for you to look at. The problem that I am having is that as of 10.5 and 10.6, if a server is rebooted or even if the machine is rebooted, there is a chance that it will create a folder with the servers share name. For example on these machines they mount Vol1, Vol2 and Onevision2 shares. If Vol1 and Vol2 get disconnected which are both on the same server, one or both could be mounted as Vol1-1 and Vol2-1 for example because an empty folder of the name of the share gets deposited in /Volumes. I have an idea of how to correct this, but I am unsure as to how exactly it would be best to implement it into the script. I want it as some form of sanity check before it attempts to mount the drive. Check for the folder and delete it and maybe have it check if the drive is mounted under anything but its real name and then unmount it and let the script re-mount it. The line I am looking at implementing, and I hope I have it right is below. -- if (count items) of Vol1 is 0 or ((count items) of Vol1 is 1 and name of item 1 of Vol1 is .DS_Store) then delete Vol1 -- I am uncertain how or where to put this into place with the script and the dismount remount commands I am completely unsure of. Any help or insight is greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. The script is pasted below. -- -- Original script courtesy of Jenny Kortina. Found at: -- http://theappleblog.com/2008/05/15/hacktackulous-auto-remount-disconnected-shares/ -- -- Script Modifications by Jason Brown, The Birmingham News. repeat set intnt to do shell script ping -c 1 10.50.3.221; echo -n set paras to number of paragraphs in intnt if paras 5 then else set serverIP to afp://10.50.3.221/Vol1 set UserAccount to sysadmin set ServerPassword to password tell application Finder try if disk Vol1 exists then else with timeout of 5 seconds mount volume serverIP as user name UserAccount with password ServerPassword end timeout end if end try end tell end if set intnt to do shell script ping -c 1 10.50.3.221; echo -n set paras to number of paragraphs in intnt if paras 5 then else set serverIP to afp://10.50.3.221/Vol2 set UserAccount to sysadmin set ServerPassword to password tell application Finder try if disk Vol2 exists then else with timeout of 5 seconds mount volume serverIP as user name UserAccount with password ServerPassword end timeout end if end try end tell end if set intnt to do shell script ping -c 1 10.50.3.8; echo -n set paras to number of paragraphs in intnt if paras 5 then else set serverIP to afp://10.50.3.8/Onevision2 set UserAccount to sysadmin set ServerPassword to password tell application Finder try if disk Onevision2 exists then else with timeout of 5 seconds mount volume serverIP as user name UserAccount with password ServerPassword end timeout end if end try end tell end if delay 10 end repeat -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
Calling Apple Script Experts
I have a problem that I need some help with. I have an apple script that I compile into an application that checks the server it is attempting to connect to and makes sure the drives stay mapped. I will include the script as well as the tag lines of where I obtained the original script that I modified for my purposes for you to look at. The problem that I am having is that as of 10.5 and 10.6, if a server is rebooted or even if the machine is rebooted, there is a chance that it will create a folder with the servers share name. For example on these machines they mount Vol1, Vol2 and Onevision2 shares. If Vol1 and Vol2 get disconnected which are both on the same server, one or both could be mounted as Vol1-1 and Vol2-1 for example because an empty folder of the name of the share gets deposited in /Volumes. I have an idea of how to correct this, but I am unsure as to how exactly it would be best to implement it into the script. I want it as some form of sanity check before it attempts to mount the drive. Check for the folder and delete it and maybe have it check if the drive is mounted under anything but its real name and then unmount it and let the script re-mount it. The line I am looking at implementing, and I hope I have it right is below. -- if (count items) of Vol1 is 0 or ((count items) of Vol1 is 1 and name of item 1 of Vol1 is .DS_Store) then delete Vol1 -- I am uncertain how or where to put this into place with the script and the dismount remount commands I am completely unsure of. Any help or insight is greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. The script is pasted below. -- -- Original script courtesy of Jenny Kortina. Found at: -- http://theappleblog.com/2008/05/15/hacktackulous-auto-remount-disconnected-shares/ -- -- Script Modifications by Jason Brown, The Birmingham News. repeat set intnt to do shell script ping -c 1 10.50.3.221; echo -n set paras to number of paragraphs in intnt if paras 5 then else set serverIP to afp://10.50.3.221/Vol1 set UserAccount to sysadmin set ServerPassword to password tell application Finder try if disk Vol1 exists then else with timeout of 5 seconds mount volume serverIP as user name UserAccount with password ServerPassword end timeout end if end try end tell end if set intnt to do shell script ping -c 1 10.50.3.221; echo -n set paras to number of paragraphs in intnt if paras 5 then else set serverIP to afp://10.50.3.221/Vol2 set UserAccount to sysadmin set ServerPassword to password tell application Finder try if disk Vol2 exists then else with timeout of 5 seconds mount volume serverIP as user name UserAccount with password ServerPassword end timeout end if end try end tell end if set intnt to do shell script ping -c 1 10.50.3.8; echo -n set paras to number of paragraphs in intnt if paras 5 then else set serverIP to afp://10.50.3.8/Onevision2 set UserAccount to sysadmin set ServerPassword to password tell application Finder try if disk Onevision2 exists then else with timeout of 5 seconds mount volume serverIP as user name UserAccount with password ServerPassword end timeout end if end try end tell end if delay 10 end repeat -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: will DA processor fit in Gigabit?
On 8/6/2010 3:14 PM, Daniel Stewart wrote: I can't agree with that. A P4 is the definition of hype verses performance. My G4 933 mhz Quicksilver is more responsive then a P4 at twice the clock speed and the ram is PC133 on my QS and it is still the better machine. P4s were not even that great with windows. Plus a P4 is basically a space heater in a computer case. Agreed, I just replaced a 1.8 GHz P4 with a dual 933 P3 system. The P3 outperforms it lol. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Monitor Question
On 8/3/2010 9:42 PM, glen wrote: The Dell started having a problem with the screen image rolling down (or up depending on your reference). Sort of like the very old CRT TV's that needed the horizontal hold adjusted. I'm talking about 1950's or 60's TV's. Don't know if you are old enough to know what I am talking about. Once the Dell warmed up the problem went away. It got worse last Winter when the room temp was 50-60 F. The rolling was so fast it just a series of thin lines -- no image. Once the monitor warmed up, all was OK. The work around was to set the auto wakeup time for an hour or two before I needed to use the G4 DA the Dell was attached to. Recently the rolling started an hour or two after the monitor warmed up and was stable. This made for a difficult if not impossible to be useful in a work environment -- s time for a new monitor. The new monitor is definitely sharper than aged Dell -- but if a cheap repair is possible I would be willing to give it a try. I could find a very productive use for the old Dell. Thanks for the info --glen LCD monitors are inherently digital devices. If something is rolling like that on an LCD, I would suspect bad capacitors as being a possible cause. The rolling effect could be caused from the refresh. If the rolling gets worse or better when you adjust your refresh, that could be as cheap as a buck in parts to fix, depending on how many caps are dying it could be more, but they are cheap. We had one that exhibited that symptom. Don't know if that is the problem with yours but if you feel comfortable opening up the back and looking at the boards it will be easy to tell usually. However a cap can look perfect and still be bad. As for the old tvs, im 32. I remember the older tvs. Bought one from a thrift store that did that, had to repair it, horizontal video board had a bad component on it. =) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Monitor Question
On Aug 3, 2010, at 5:13 PM, glen wrote: My reply: Thanks Kevin, I went with the Hannspree 22 mostly because it was an easy, cheap and fast replacement. Like most new monitors the screen images are crisp and clear. No real complaints it will suit my purpose. The only thing difficult was adjusting/calibrating the monitor. Hannspress hides the adjustment button UNDER the monitor frame. The button symbols are pressed on the black plastic and are invisible in my lighting. It really took me too long to get the monitor calibrated for my work. But I did and all is well. Really miss the adjustment buttons on the frame of the old 20 Dell 2005 UltraSharp that died. --glen Do you know what went bad? It is most likely either an inverter, caps or the likeliest problem, bulbs burned out. If you want that monitor repaired, I and likely a few others on this list can do them. I have a decent supplier for monitor bulbs, about 10-20 bucks per bulb, depending on the size of the display. 20 inch is likely around the 14 to 15 dollar range per bulb. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!
On Jul 26, 2010, at 12:58 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote: On Jul 26, 12:39 pm, Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net wrote: I found this on newegg for $55.00 do you think it would be good for this computer??? I can't seem to find any better deals on ebay and this is a new one... Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5 Internal Hard Drive... Also I heard some mention about a SATA PCI card, will I still need to get this to make better improvement to this machine and will it help the HD too??? Thank You!!! Rich Nice drive, ok price, not really. But wrong for the G4. You have a PATA ready Mac. It depends on what you want to do. Simplest is to buy a 500GB PATA drive. But- If you want most expansion - get a sata card and go with 1.5TB sata drives. Must... Contain... Opinion on WD garbage. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!
I've had a 120GB rotating happily in my G4 Gigabit for over four years... JT I guess even WD has a fluke every now and then :P All kidding aside though, I have trashed brand new WD drives that were given to me. I refuse to use one, I have had too many issues with them. I have seen close to half of the brand new drives be dead or dying out of the box from the vendor. This was out of a box of 20 hard drives. I have also seen too many WD fail at the company I currently work for. We have an almost equal spreading of Maxtor, Seagate, WD, even some Quantum drives out there as well as Hitachi in fact. I have seen a couple Maxtor go, same with Seagate and Hitachi. However, from my personal experience, it speaks volumes when you have 6 WD drives just up and die, no warning, no clicks, no smart failures, just dead, all in the course of a 2 week span. This isn't an isolated incident and they aren't all on the same machine or even machine type or on the same floor. They are spread between PC and Mac alike. Due to literally a lifetimes issue with WD, I now have an unnatural hatred for them. lol -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)
I hope others realize how humorous this Product M and H discussion is :P On Jun 16, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Chance Reecher wrote: Peter Haas wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 8:06 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: All in all continuing to make the H word we cannot use here more and more attractive. There's a place for both. Where absolute compatibility is required, over a great many applications, irrespective of performance, I use Product M. Where highest performance is required, over comparatively few applications, most of these being mission specific and mission critical, I use Product H. I find both H and M very attractive. In the portable realm, I greatly prefer Product M, due in part to the unmatched hardware design and the fact that I can rely on it to just work. However, in the desktop realm, Product H is a much better option both in price and performance. My current H, which is over a year old, cost me less than what the current Mini would, and is still a superior machine. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Improper Put Away? for USB Modem???
Try creating another user account and log in under that account to rule out issues with the account that you are currently using. Also, what OS are you running? I haven't been following this that long so I am unsure if this was answered previously, however, if you are running an Intel Mac and are using 10.6.2, it has a known usb issue that I ran into here primarily with USB thumbdrive which is what that device essentially mimics for the install files. It would cycle in and out repeatedly with certain devices, not all would do this. 10.6.3 fixes this issue, am unsure if this behavior is shown anywhere in 10.5. On Jun 15, 2010, at 1:40 PM, James Therrault wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Illirik Smirnov wrote: Yeah, I second Dan. It's hardware. Try what he said, and then try cleaning out your USB ports. Gunk can sometimes get in them and cause cycling. Use a Q-Tip. Illirik Smirnov But both USB ports work fine for my all-in-one card readers and a two button mouse.. JT -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sonnet firmware
Always better safe than sorry, however if the system was running, you likely either A: didnt need the update or B: had already done it otherwise the system wouldnt boot or wouldnt even post. On Jun 3, 2010, at 9:06 AM, John Carmonne wrote: On Jun 3, 2010, at 7:00 AM, Jason Brown wrote: Their firmware is a modified version of the Apple Rom 4.1.9f1. You are on the correct version, its just been modded to add additional cpu id variables so the system recognizes it. Thanks I'm glad I went back to square one then. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA From Earl Cube 1.2 GHz -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 MDD RAM
I think the ram limit is artificial by firmware. I am not sure on this though. My MDD will recognize 2 1 gig modules for 2 gig, but it ignores anything after that like it doesnt exist. On Jun 2, 2010, at 11:18 AM, JoeTaxpayer wrote: Sorry - I have these machines and never saw anyone say they had it recognize more than the 2GB. Any discussions or spec referencing the RAM says that 512MB per slot is max. If anyone has an about this Mac image showing more than 2GB/ 512 per slot, I'd love to see it. With all the G4 MDDs out there, if this were possible, I'd think it would be out there. (And the RAM sellers would be loading it for sale, not repeating 2GB max) On Jun 2, 11:51 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:47 AM, john CARMONNE wrote: Hi All I'm wondering if I install in my G4 MDD Dual 1.25, two 1 GB PC3200 DDR 184 pin sticks and two 512 will the machine report 3 GB? Yes it will. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 MDD RAM
It will recognize 2 of the 1 gig modules for 2 gig, once it hits its max, it stops. There has to be a hack we can do somehow some way to make it recognize the ram, its apparently a soft limit. On Jun 2, 2010, at 2:41 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Jun 2, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Ricardo Sevilla wrote: WEre you able to do this? What was the outcome? On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:51 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:47 AM, john CARMONNE wrote: Hi All I'm wondering if I install in my G4 MDD Dual 1.25, two 1 GB PC3200 DDR 184 pin sticks and two 512 will the machine report 3 GB? Yes it will. The RAM is on the way as soon as I get it I'll take a shot at it, otherwise it'll fit my PM G5. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Slashdot News Story | Google Reportedly Ditching Windows
I believe it is spam that is tailored to be aimed at you based on information stolen or obtain about you through other means. On Jun 1, 2010, at 11:22 AM, ===( )8 wrote: Vic Mabus writes, http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/06/01/011203/Google-Reportedly-Ditching-Windows?from=rss by rolfwind (528248) on Monday May 31, @09:24PM (#32413200) Macs are only more susceptible to spearfishing because the monitor and body are one. Ram a spear through that and the whole machine is gone. With most windows machines, spearfishers go for the bright monitor but since the real guts of the machine is in a seperate body, it just requires replacing an ever-cheaper monitor. Great! One more thing to worry about... What is spearfishing? ~Yersinia. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Cube speed
Be sure if you try it on a 450 MHz board that it is a 7410 series and not a 7400. The 7400 has a glitch that prevents it from running at 500 and better. Some you can hit 500 with but I wouldn't trust it due to the flaw. On May 24, 2010, at 2:23 PM, John Carmonne wrote: Can you explain the exact method of doing this, I read a page from Operator HeadGap on this but it seems vague at best, I'll have an extra 2 450 MHz boards in a couple of days that I could try it on:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?
I think he means natively BOOT OS 9. There are a couple of machines, and correct me if I am wrong on this. But the newest machine that will BOOT OS 9 would be the MDD based G4 powermac with standard Airport. The Airport Extreme model will not booth OS 9 and even on the one with the standard Airport card, it requires the model specific OS 9. Same goes for the eMac, some of which will boot OS 9, but I know the 1.42 GHz model will not. The Quicksilver will install off just a standard retail OS 9 disk and is a good machine. This may be your sweet spot for OS 9. You can pick up a Quicksilver 2002 model for a decent price these days. If you have any questions, please let me know. On May 14, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: Natively through me off??? Then I'm not sure but I think it won't run with Leopard or Snow Leopard but it will with Tiger so I would say any computer that will run Tiger??? I think it's the OS that matters not the computer??? Any help here with this because I'm just guessing??? -Original Message- From: coolr...@comcast.net Sent: May 14, 2010 3:54 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9? I want to know which was the last Mac to be able to boot into OS9 regardless of what it shipped with. I think someone answered that though. Rick On May 14, 2010, at 12:05 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: Are you asking when the last computer came out with ONLY OS 9 without OS 10??? Or when they stopped putting OS 9 in them??? If it is the last with only OS 9 I would have to say maybe the end of 2000, because this is when I got it for my Clamshell when it first came out it was OS 10 and the disc I got didn't have a name like Puma or Jaguar... -Original Message- From: coolr...@comcast.net Sent: May 13, 2010 6:54 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9? The subject pretty much asks the question. Also, which Mac last shipped with OS9? Wad it a G4? G3? r -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/ netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: quicksilver 933 fried by power loss
If the power supply were weak before the power failure, ie bulging capacitors, it would seem like the power failure caused it. Inversely, if the power surge that hit the system upon power restoration caused a cap to bulge, then that would also cause this, depending on the cap location and what rail it is on. If it is the kick start capacitor, you can hang it up until you replace it. That capacitor holds a small charge to kick start the power supply when you press the power button. All of these are an easy fix if you have the time and patience and are good with a soldering iron. I repair power supplies as well as motherboards like this all the time. On May 13, 2010, at 5:46 PM, James Morgan wrote: I have been using my MDD G4 (not that far removed from the quicksilver) for months now with a startup button that sometimes flickers, dies and does not start (a problem that began after I accidently disconnected the power while it was running). But given a rest for a few hours it starts fine (after a few tried, of course) and then continues to start so long as it is shut down normally However, if disconnected from the power while running (yep. I did it again) it falls back into the button light flicker and dies mode. But then, given some rest and tried again, starts up and runs fine again. It seems to me if this were a power supply issue that the computer would never start again? Also, I don't see why a power outage would kill a computer power supply? === On May 13, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 12, 2010, at 7:13 PM, ll wrote: We lost power yesterday. My quicksilver has been on a really good surge protector for two years. It wasn't enough this time however. If I push the on button,a light shows,flickers and dies. The machine never turns on. I am assuming my hardrive is fried. Nope. This is a power supply issue, and seems to be pretty common with Quicksilvers. A new replacement ps is about $230 or so, we replaced on in a professors system not too long ago. You could try to find another QS or later Mac and drop your hdd into it; more than likely your drive (and the rest of the system) is just fine, or look for a replacement PS on fleabay or such. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list James K Morgan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: AirPort card for PowerMac G5 (dual 2.3GHz)
On Feb 25, 2010, at 3:35 PM, dc wrote: On Feb 24, 9:53 pm, Herbert Goodfriend bon...@mailforce.net wrote: I would like to install an AirPort Extreme card in a recently acquired PowerMac G5 Dual 2.3GHz. This would be cheaper, easier and faster: http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/MXP802NPCI/ I have that card. Hate it personally. The software that comes with it is garbage. The hardware seems fine, however I do wish the antennas could be removed from the stand and screwed directly into the card. I stopped using it due to how poor the software actually is. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: is thermal calibration necessary?
On 2/20/2010 1:57 PM, ah...clem wrote: On Feb 20, 10:51 am, Bruce Johnsonjohn...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Why should we feel foolish? because everyone except john musbach assumed i was an idiot who needed to be told how annoying the fans are. everyone else could have just given me enough credit to simply believe me when i said the noise didn't matter, WITHOUT my having to post my life story! As to the rest of your comments, well hell, had you said all of that IN THE FIRST PLACE, the answers you got would have been more appropriate. with or without my life story included, the ONLY appropriate responses would have been to simply answer the question(s) with any factual information that you might have, instead of turning this thread (like most others) into a string of irrelevant and useless babble that serious readers have to wade thru to get to the tidbits of actual fact. and judging from ricardo's reply to my last post, i am not the only one getting bored with all the inane chatter. Just the FACTS, ma'am. - - Detective Friday When I WANT your OPINION, I'll beat it out of you! - - Bob Barker Excuse me, I did not think you were an idiot and NOWHERE did I say that. I made a **JOKE** about the G5 fans and my cat. Here are the facts spelled out. 1. It doesn't matter about your hearing loss or not. If you do not do the thermal calibration, you will be running the fans at full tilt. This will cause issues over time such as premature fan breakdown and increased dust buildup inside the system due to it picking up other stuff that it should not and normally would not pick up. ESPECIALLY if you keep this on the floor. 2. This will cause an increased load on the power supply which could possibly make the power supply last a shorter period of time, this depends on the current state of the power supply. 3. Increased vibration due to the fans running in jet engine mode which can cause other problems inside the system with connections that other components make to the board. Yes, these include the connections to the CPU, so over time, tho unlikely, it is possible all of this could cause the failure of your system until you re-seat components. 4. Increased power usage in #2 will increase your power bill. Maybe not by much, but this day in age, every cent helps. There, a few things for you. I will refrain from making any further jokes since some people seem to get upset over something that was meant for grins and not as a means to berate you or upset you. This list is for informational purposes, yes, but I also like to think that everyone here is a friend and also part of a family, the Macintosh family. I apologize if my joke upset you, that was not what it was intended to do, however I do joke around with friends and with family. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mismatched RAM in a G5
On 2/20/2010 4:38 PM, Eric Volker wrote: I currently have a dual 1.8GHz G5 that I'm in the repurposing. In the process, I removed 1GB (2x512) of DDR400 RAM leaving 1GB in place. I do have 2 extra 256MB sticks of RAM, but one is DDR 400 and the other DDR 333. If I drop the mismatched pair in the G5, will it automatically downclock the entire bus to 333, or will chaos ensue? Thanks, Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Minimum ram support for that system is DDR400. I have not tried this with a G5, but based on past experience, if you install that DDR333 module in it, it will render the system either unusable or it will ignore both of the modules and boot up and show empty slots. Most often it wont even allow the system to boot or post thus rendering it unusable. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: is thermal calibration necessary?
On 2/18/2010 7:30 PM, McGrude wrote: On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:27 PM, ah...clemboneheads...@gmail.com wrote: Have you heard the G5 DP fans run at full speed? I swear it's moved across the desk several inches when that happens. I think you will care about the noise. I lost a cat once to a G5 running full tilt. Sucked it right through the holes in the case. Heck of a mess to clean up... :P -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: is thermal calibration necessary?
On 2/18/2010 8:57 PM, Nestamicky wrote: On 2/18/10 7:13 PM, Jason Brown wrote: I lost a cat once to a G5 running full tilt. Sucked it right through the holes in the case. Heck of a mess to clean up... : You're kidding..right? Of course :P -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: is thermal calibration necessary?
On 2/18/2010 9:56 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 18, 2010, at 7:30 PM, McGrude wrote: When my G5 was repaired by Apple they forgot to do the thermal calibration, and I had to take it back. It cost me another week without it. Needless to say, I decided this was something that I didn't want to happen again, so I searched out ASD discs. I can't say I ever really necessarily found the correct version of ASD for my Early 2005 G5 because I wasn't ever certain which version was correct? I did boot at least one or two ASD versions, but I never saw any thermal calibration software? Also I was somewhat confused about these discs, I think they were dual boot discs, and you needed to hold some key(s) to get it to boot one way or the other? I can't remember if the Option key boot gave you all the choices, but I remember being somewhat unhappy that I couldn't locate said thermal calibration software. If anyone has experience doing a thermal calibration on a G5 could you enlighten us please? On the ASD disc that I have there is an os9 style boot of sorts and an osx style boot of sorts. the x style boot is just for testing certain aspects of the hardware. The more conventional boot has all of the diagnostic utilities and under one of the menus up top, it has an option called thermal calibration. Run it and it will go through cycles for each processor and calibrate the fans. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Slightly OT: Overheating Iomega Minimax
On 2/13/2010 3:47 PM, Eric Volker wrote: In an interesting twist, I've successively run Disk Utility and SMART Reporter on the drive, and they both pass the drive. Now SMART Utility does give more thorough feedback, but is it being too pessimestic? I think what I'll do is repartition the drive and zero out the drive seven times. If it doesn't lose (m)any more sectors, I'll pronounce it healthy, if a little dodgy. Do folks here trust Disk Utility to report a healthy drive? Thanks, Eric Heres an interesting twist for you. I have an external box that is hooked up via USB. It can also do eSATA, however it is not hooked up via that interface at present. I have been told time and time again that you cannot read SMART data over USB. I can with this drive box. It is a NexStar 3 by Vantec. I was also able to configure advanced drive parameters such as disabling the acoustic management. It stored this information through a complete power down as well. As for Disk Utility reporting a healthy drive. It makes that report based on the SMART reporting feature of that drive. That only generally gets tripped if it is in impending doom, but is not always reliable. Don't trust that reading on anything critical. I have seen drives that are totally healthy via the SMART report die instantly with no warning. I have also seen drives that were indicated as impending failure that are still running after 4 or 5 years or more. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Slightly OT: Overheating Iomega Minimax
On 2/13/2010 4:18 PM, Eric Volker wrote: Actually, I've only seen the statement SMART is impossible applied to Firewire drives, though I probably should've thought to connect my Minimax up with USB instead of 1394. In any event, I'm going to wipe the drive and put it through it's paces on the G5. A 7-pass zero out of a 500GB drive will only take, what, 2-3 weeks? Eric Give or take a week. :P -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mozilla Firefox
On Feb 10, 2010, at 9:30 AM, JoeTaxpayer wrote: At some point updates to software won't run on a given OS. That's life, no? My prized G4 MDDs cannot load Snow Leopard (that I know). At some point, I'd imagine, Firefox will want an Intel chip, and won't run on the G4 or G5 for that matter. To an extent yes. However I see no reason that someone cant trick the newer versions of Firefox to install on 10.4. I am running Firefox 3.6 on Windows 98 after all which is configured for retro gaming. I also use the latest flash, and shockwave which aren't supported on 98. All it takes is a little ingenuity. =) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: low density RAM?
On Feb 10, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Geke wrote: Thanks a lot! That link from Pete is precious; I can mention it to the company so they can check for themselves... (Note that it runs over two lines that should be connected before pasting into the browser.) Geke Yes it is. Here is a link that should work for all. http://tinyurl.com/6knk63 Thanks Pete =) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G5 2GHZ Graphics Problem
On 2/8/2010 2:29 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 7, 2010, at 11:23 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: FIXED! I shimmed the Graphics Chip using Pennies! I stacked them under the gray cover, and then on top of the cover and then closed the computer up and it works perfectly!!! Thanks for help, you saved my computer! Using pennies sounds seriously dangerous. Anything that conducts electricity that might get loose inside is asking for a short-circuit that will possibly put a permanent end to your iMac. Perhaps I don't fully appreciate the situation, and if the pennies are electrically isolated from ALL electronics if they get loose, then you're probably ok. If not, I'd strongly suggest stopping using this iMac until you can figure out some type of non-conductive, heat resistant shim material. I've heard that some people cut up a CD disc to make shims. I'm sure there are many possible non-conductive shims materials that can be fabricated for next-to-nothing. Yes, I would not use pennies, you could blow your board or other components. You can cut up some index cards to fit by making a square with center removed, or carve up a cd like Kris said. Other than the potential for fireworks congrats on your repair. =) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G5 2GHZ Graphics Problem
On Feb 8, 2010, at 11:53 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Yeah it does sound stupid, however the pennies are taped together VERY well, and are taped to the surface VERY well, unfortunately the problem is back so I'm thinking of trying to reflow the solder on that chip. Any ideas of how to do this? -Jonas Your best bet would be to take it to a professional to do this. Some charge as low as 40 bucks but it varies. It can be as high as 200 bucks for a board or more. If you read one of my past messages, it can be done at home, but is VERY risky. I call it the Redneck reflow. To summarize, and this isnt instructions to do it. Preheat your oven, toss board in oven lol. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G5 2GHZ Graphics Problem
On 2/7/2010 4:30 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: What do you mean shimming the GPU? My guess would be to cut out a shim to go around the non core portion of the GPU. When you bolt the heatsink back down, it will put pressure on top of the chip and sometimes make better electrical connection if there was a flaky connection. I had a video card that I shimmed at one point and it helped until I moved the case and made things worse. Believe it or not, I pulled the card apart and removed all plastics, baked that puppy in the oven at 375 degrees for 10 minutes to reflow the solder. Let it cool completely, reassembled the card and voila, card still works to this day without the need to be shimmed. If you decide to go the crazy route like I did, be sure to support the board with aluminum foil balls on a cookie sheet. Also remove any plastics and ESPECIALLY heatpipes if there are any. Those can explode with great vigor lol. Also, if you have non solid capacitors, aka standard capacitors, watch them closely as they can burst. When time is up, turn oven off and gently open door to vent heat and let it cool completely for about 30 minutes to an hour. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G5 2GHZ Graphics Problem
On 2/7/2010 10:27 PM, Jason Brown wrote: On 2/7/2010 4:30 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: What do you mean shimming the GPU? My guess would be to cut out a shim to go around the non core portion of the GPU. When you bolt the heatsink back down, it will put pressure on top of the chip and sometimes make better electrical connection if there was a flaky connection. Forgot to mention, the shim that is generally used is made out of card stock. Like an index card or two on top of one another. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Mac G5 (June 2004) crash?
On Feb 5, 2010, at 4:12 PM, John Callahan wrote: On Feb 5, 2010, at 10:31 AM, John Martz wrote: On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 6:02 PM, John Callahan jcalla...@stny.rr.com wrote: My G5 crashes when I connect it to the internet. Otherwise it runs fine. What do you mean by crashes? What happens? (I have an early 2008 MacBook and when I plug in a firewire cable the power cuts off, so it's pretty obvious to me that I've got a hardware problem. But I suppose I could also describe that as it crashes.) -irrational john -- That pretty much sums it up John. Thanks Sounds to me like a bent pin in the port. Next door neighbor had a usb port that worked but was very flaky. Would even shut his computer off at times when he plugged a device in. The problem with his port was one of the pins was bent and would touch the metal ground of the cage of the socket or plug when the plug was inserted. The result was his machine would just power off suddenly. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 processor upgrade
Yes, it can. It is the Motherboard that limits the booting, particularly the firmware and drivers in the OS. The processors are still just 7544/7457 series processors. I have seen people do this before. Mine, I just took the dual 1.25 board and overclocked it to dual 1.5. :P On Feb 2, 2010, at 12:46 PM, Dan Knight, LowEndMac.com wrote: I have a question that I hope someone here can answer. Can a 1.42 GHz dual CPU module be transplanted to a FireWire 400 MDD motherboard while still allowing booting into Mac OS 9? Thanks! Dan Knight, LowEndMac.com On Feb 2, 12:23 pm, Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: The Dual-1 GHz MDD has a bus speed of 167 MHz and can take any MDD or FW800 CPU that is designed for the same bus speed. snip 167 MHz Bus speed: MDD - 1.0 GHz Dual (1 MB cache on both processors) MDD - 1.25 GHz Dual (2 MB cache on both processors) FW800 - 1.25 GHz Dual (1 MB cache on both processors) FW800 - 1.42 GHz Dual (2 MB cache on both processor) MDD - 1.25 GHz single (1 MB cache) education only 2003 model -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 processor upgrade
Sigh, please forgive me, had a dyslexic moment. 7455/7457 series. lol On Feb 2, 2010, at 1:30 PM, Jason Brown wrote: Yes, it can. It is the Motherboard that limits the booting, particularly the firmware and drivers in the OS. The processors are still just 7544/7457 series processors. I have seen people do this before. Mine, I just took the dual 1.25 board and overclocked it to dual 1.5. :P On Feb 2, 2010, at 12:46 PM, Dan Knight, LowEndMac.com wrote: I have a question that I hope someone here can answer. Can a 1.42 GHz dual CPU module be transplanted to a FireWire 400 MDD motherboard while still allowing booting into Mac OS 9? Thanks! Dan Knight, LowEndMac.com On Feb 2, 12:23 pm, Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: The Dual-1 GHz MDD has a bus speed of 167 MHz and can take any MDD or FW800 CPU that is designed for the same bus speed. snip 167 MHz Bus speed: MDD - 1.0 GHz Dual (1 MB cache on both processors) MDD - 1.25 GHz Dual (2 MB cache on both processors) FW800 - 1.25 GHz Dual (1 MB cache on both processors) FW800 - 1.42 GHz Dual (2 MB cache on both processor) MDD - 1.25 GHz single (1 MB cache) education only 2003 model -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 processor upgrade
There are several different processor board layouts for that machine. This does not count the single and dual processor cards. I have 2 totally different 1.25 GHz cards here. The way that I did it was searched on google for information on it. You are going to need to be really really good with a soldering iron to do this, likely best to have 2 fine tip soldering irons to pull it off. You will also want some Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound. I stepped the multiplier up for my chips and stepped the voltage up a notch to stabalize it. If your dual 1.25 GHz system has the aluminum heatsink, you are going to want to find the copper heatsink as well. The aluminum one just wont cut it when overclocked. On Feb 2, 2010, at 4:25 PM, John Carmonne wrote: Thanks now can you tell me how to over clock it when I get one? This will be my project for the month On Feb 2, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Jason Brown wrote: Sigh, please forgive me, had a dyslexic moment. 7455/7457 series. lol On Feb 2, 2010, at 1:30 PM, Jason Brown wrote: Yes, it can. It is the Motherboard that limits the booting, particularly the firmware and drivers in the OS. The processors are still just 7544/7457 series processors. I have seen people do this before. Mine, I just took the dual 1.25 board and overclocked it to dual 1.5. :P On Feb 2, 2010, at 12:46 PM, Dan Knight, LowEndMac.com wrote: I have a question that I hope someone here can answer. Can a 1.42 GHz dual CPU module be transplanted to a FireWire 400 MDD motherboard while still allowing booting into Mac OS 9? Thanks! Dan Knight, LowEndMac.com On Feb 2, 12:23 pm, Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: The Dual-1 GHz MDD has a bus speed of 167 MHz and can take any MDD or FW800 CPU that is designed for the same bus speed. snip 167 MHz Bus speed: MDD - 1.0 GHz Dual (1 MB cache on both processors) MDD - 1.25 GHz Dual (2 MB cache on both processors) FW800 - 1.25 GHz Dual (1 MB cache on both processors) FW800 - 1.42 GHz Dual (2 MB cache on both processor) MDD - 1.25 GHz single (1 MB cache) education only 2003 model -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: no video on restart on G5 Quad. Help?
On Dec 28, 2009, at 4:16 PM, Hal wrote: Interestingly, I tried the open firmware procedure described above, and when it rebooted, the screen stayed on the grey OF screen with black text while the computer rebooted, with no display. It's almost like it doesn't know the video card and display are there. I also tried the Snow Leopard Cache Cleaner and did the Deep Cleaning with no change in results. I am not sure if this is an issue with G5 systems or not, but can you see any bad looking, aka, bulging or leaking capacitors on the motherboard? If not, one last ditch effort to try is to unplug system, remove battery from board, push reset switch for around 10 seconds to make sure system is drained and then let it sit with battery out and system unplugged from power for a few hours to let everything drain, then put the battery in and plug er in and boot up and re-set all your display settings before you reboot again. If that doesnt resolve it, im all out of possible voodoo to try lol -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: no video on restart on G5 Quad. Help?
On 12/27/2009 8:47 PM, Hal wrote: Thanks for the quick response. I tried replacing the battery, and that seems to have cleared up some other issues I was having (prolonged blue screen on boot up), but it didn't solve the no video on reboot problem. When I log in and share the screen, instead of the video card being properly identified in system profiler, it just lists it as a VGA Compatible controller, but it lists the manufacturer correctly as ATI. When I cold boot it sees it as a ATI Radeon X1900. I had the same result with the original Nvidia card. It only list 3 resolutions on the displays pref pane: 1024x768, 1280x1024 and 1680x1050. I'm using an Apple 23 aluminum HD display, and none of those shows up on the display when I try selecting it. Maybe the slot has gone bad? Is that possible? I pressed the reset button on the logic board when I put the new battery in. Any help is appreciated. -Hal I had that issue on a Powermac G5 where I work. No matter what card I put in it, it would act funky. Reset button on board didnt do anything. Try this and lemme know if it works. Shut computer down and while holding down Command-Alt-O-F to go into Open Firmware (I know, you gotta be a contortionist for that). When in OF, type in reset-nvram and hit enter. Then type in set-defaults and hit enter. Then type in reset-all and hit enter. Computer will reboot and may come up fine after that. If that doesnt work, I recommend downloading Snow Leopard Cache Cleaner or Onyx and cleaning all your system and kernel caches. Hope this helps. =) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: no video on restart on G5 Quad. Help?
On 12/27/2009 11:50 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: Snow Leopard? On a G5? O_O Snow Leopard Cache Cleaner is not just for Snow Leopard. I know the name implies it, which is a poor choice on their part. It is also compatible with 10.4 and 10.5, maybe others. I use it a good bit at work along side Onyx for system maintenance. =) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Large format printer
On Dec 23, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: On 12/22/09 11:39 PM, Paxton innfo...@gmail.com Spew into the cybertrough: There are good laser printers that do a good job on photos but I don't know of any larger than 11X17. What is she trying to print? This is the largest that I can find. http://tinyurl.com/3juajw -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Large format printer
On Dec 23, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: On 12/22/09 11:39 PM, Paxton innfo...@gmail.com Spew into the cybertrough: There are good laser printers that do a good job on photos but I don't know of any larger than 11X17. What is she trying to print? This printer will do color and is up to 12x36 banner printing. Do not know if this will help or not. http://tinyurl.com/5fswgk -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Large format printer
On Dec 23, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: On 12/22/09 11:39 PM, Paxton innfo...@gmail.com Spew into the cybertrough: There are good laser printers that do a good job on photos but I don't know of any larger than 11X17. What is she trying to print? I just noticed that she needs color, the link that I sent is for a BW printer :( -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
PCI Wireless Cards
Are there any PCI wireless cards that are fully Airport compatible that are 802.11n? If so, which ones have you found that do the trick? If not, which G would you recommend? I have a Newertech wireless card that I just don't like. It has to have special software that is a pain in the neck. Thank you in advance for your help. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PCI Wireless Cards
- Original Message - From: Jeffrey Engle To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 1:43 PM Subject: Re: PCI Wireless Cards your Airport software doesn't support N The Airport drivers built into 10.5 dont support N? How do the newer Macs running the N wireless do it? This is all just too confusing lol. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?
10.9.4? Your all set then. :P On Dec 15, 2009, at 11:15 AM, coolr...@comcast.net wrote: FYI... read the fine print. The PowerLogix won't run OS X higher than 10.9.4. I have one in a 400MHz BW and works great. It runs at 1GHz under OS9 and 500MHz under 10.4.11. I have a 10.4.9 partition for doing specific things where it runs at 1GHz. Rick -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question about USB ports?
On Oct 23, 2009, at 11:11 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Funny thing... I have an early 2005 Powermac G5 with 3 USB ports on the tower itself. Two on the rear and one on the front. Why does system profiler say that I have 4 USB Bus and 1 USB High-speed Bus? equalling 5 usb busses all together? and I thought ALL of the 3 that I do have were High-Speed Can someone explain? Thanks, Jeff Your tower has 3 usb ports. Your keyboard has 2 non powered ports on them. The other part of the question, the USB high speed bus. The best that I can figure is that it is driven by another driver in the system or is a physically different chip. Someone else that is more knowledgeable may be able to answer that part. Jason Brown --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Question about USB ports?
Jason, please keep in mind that system profiler only sees those USB ports available to it. Thus, if the keyboard is NOT plugged in, you will not see those ports. So, back to the drawing table. Jeff Ahhh, that is too true. I apologize for misinformation then. Jason --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: last question re: Orig. Airport card vs. PCI wireless card
I have a question on this. Does anyone know of a good pci card that supports wireless N that is recognized as an airport extreme card to os x? If you know it, I would like the make, and model of the card. Thank you in advance. =) On Jun 20, 2009, at 6:02 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jun 20, 2009, at 5:52 AM, Arnel Tuazon wrote: Someone mentioned Broadcom chipset and it using Airport as the driver. Is this true for any wireless adapter? As long as it has a Broadcom chipset I can just use Apple's Airport to connect to the base station? There's a script available that will add most of the 3rd party wireless adapter support into the Apple extension so that Broadcom chipset adapters are recognized as Airport (meaning they are fully OEM identical to Apple Airport products in usage). See this page for the script and info: http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=51725 The current script is called bcm43xx_enabler_0.5.3.sh.zip and is listed at the bottom of the page for download (you may need to register to download the file). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MDD Dual 1.42 GHz G4 card
On May 11, 2009, at 6:13 AM, Ross wrote: Jason Brown wrote: I have a non firewire 800 MDD system. It is a Dual 1.25 GHz system. I was curious if the Dual 1.42 GHz card from the firewire 800 model will work on this board. Mine is running at 167 MHz system bus. Thank you in advance. Yes, it will. I have the same system, and just purchased a Dual G4/1.42GHz CPU card for it. Runs great. Not sure it is worth what I paid for it, but it is a lot cheaper than a Sonnet Duet, and has twice (2MB/CPU) the L3 cache as my Dual G4/1.25GHz CPU card which had (1MB/ CPU). I'm happy with it. Ross Sweet, thank you for the information. The Dual 1.25 card that I am running has 2 meg L3 Cache per cpu so I will count myself lucky there. I am going to watch the list and ebay for a dual 1.42 card and likely upgrade my cpu. I may also keep my eye out for a FW800 case and FW800 board and do the ol switcheroo on parts to build a newer FW800 model hehe. Have a great day and thank you so much again for the information. =) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
MDD Dual 1.42 GHz G4 card
I have a non firewire 800 MDD system. It is a Dual 1.25 GHz system. I was curious if the Dual 1.42 GHz card from the firewire 800 model will work on this board. Mine is running at 167 MHz system bus. Thank you in advance. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Command-option p-r
I must have large hands, that or difference in keyboard. I am using one of the newer aluminum keyboards, non wireless variant. Ive never thought of myself as having large hands, but ive been told that im a large person, so it would make sense lol. On Dec 7, 2008, at 3:10 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Dec 6, 2008, at 7:28 PM, Jason Brown wrote: I just hold down command and option with my thumb and press the p with my pointer and r with pinky and then use my right hand to turn on my machine. Kris Tilford replied: This works for full size keyboards that have Cmd Opt on both the left right side of the Space bar, but many Macs (all laptops) only have the Cmd Opt together on the left side of the Space bar, requiring the use of the right hand to press the Cmd-Opt pair and the p with the pinky and r with the index finger. On Dec 6, 2008, at 10:28 PM, Clark Martin replied: Many laptops, not all. This MacBook Pro has them on both sides. On Dec 7, 2008, at 12:55 AM, Jason Brown replied: The Command and Option i was referring to anyway was on the left side of the space bar :P On Dec 7, 2008, at 1:12 AM, Kris Tilford replied: In the original posting, you said then use my right hand to turn on my machine. This implies you're using your left hand to press the keys Cmd-Opt-P-R. If you're using your left hand, and the thumb is on the Cmd-Opt keys, this only works if you're pressing Cmd-Opt on the right side of the space bar. Now you're saying your Cmd-Opt are on the left side of the space bar, but this only works for me using the right hand. The left hand is then free to press the Power button on the Mac. I don't understand how you could use your left hand thumb to press Cmd- Opt on the left side of the space bar, and then press the P R with your left index (pointer) and pinky unless you have monster size hands or a tiny keyboard? On Dec 7, 2008, at 3:00 AM, Jason Brown replied: Um, it works for me to use my left hand on left side of keyboard to press the command and option and use pointer finger to press the p and my pinky to press the r, i can do it with no problem actually. You must have large hands then? I can't do this at all. My clear Apple Pro USB corded keyboard is symmetric and has Cmd-Opt on both left right of the space bar, so I can easily do it single handed with either my left or right hand, but I can't do either hand in the method you describe. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Command-option p-r
I just hold down command and option with my thumb and press the p with my pointer and r with pinky and then use my right hand to turn on my machine. :P On Dec 5, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Ken wrote: My Reply follows quote. On 03/12/2008 19:34 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: At 2:23 pm + 12/4/08, Bruce Johnson wrote: That was a bad, bad article. pressing 'h' does nothing; to rest the pram you must boot while simultaneously holding down the command- option-p-r keys, which always required me to use a pencil in my mouth to either press the power switch or hold down the 'p' key ;-) LOL I may have this wrong, but I hold the Command, Option and R down with my left hand. Then hit the R and power with my right. :-P -- On older Macs that works. On my MDD (not really very new, but...) the only power key is on the front of the machine. Pointy nose or pencil is a viable tool! Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Command-option p-r
The Command and Option i was referring to anyway was on the left side of the space bar :P On Dec 6, 2008, at 10:28 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Kris Tilford wrote: On Dec 6, 2008, at 7:28 PM, Jason Brown wrote: I just hold down command and option with my thumb and press the p with my pointer and r with pinky and then use my right hand to turn on my machine. This works for full size keyboards that have Cmd Opt on both the left right side of the Space bar, but many Macs (all laptops) only have the Cmd Opt together on the left side of the Space bar, requiring the use of the right hand to press the Cmd-Opt pair and the p with the pinky and r with the index finger. Many laptops, not all. This MacBook Pro has them on both sides. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
