Re: Re: Browser g4
At 6:14 PM -0800 1/12/14, regarding Re: Browser g4, jonzie mann e-mailed: itunes doesn't want to open...how can i attach quick time player to play all my music instead of itunes or use other compatible player. These folks have been very helpful to me: iTunes Store Customer Support http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/ww/ On Friday, January 10, 2014 10:12 PM, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com wrote: That's right, Ten4Fox doesn't support plugins. From their wiki: http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/wiki/PluginsNoLongerSupportedhttp://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/wiki/PluginsNoLongerSupported --- [snip] not supported is right, but it can work if you're willing to take the risks This is no longer true for versions 19 and later (i.e., 24.2.0, the most current stable version). never could get java to work in version 7, haven't tried in this version yet Although 17 did have a separate setting for Java, I really don't recommend it; there are a number of drive-by exploits for Java which *will* work on a Power Mac. Flashblock/Flashback even works (the reason it doesn't appear to is only because the payload is x86; the actual exploit succeeds). I wonder if the problem is somewhere else though, installing a new browser shouldn't affect itunes, should it? No, it shouldn't. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * mailto:ckai...@floodgap.comckai...@floodgap.com -- What's another word for thesaurus? - -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmlhttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtmlhttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to mailto:g3-5-list@googlegroups.comg3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-listhttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+mailto:unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmlhttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtmlhttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-listhttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- HTH, Paul pwseventy...@bresnan.net -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Re: Browser g4
At 6:14 PM -0800 1/12/14, regarding Re: Browser g4, jonzie mann e-mailed: itunes doesn't want to open...how can i attach quick time player to play all my music instead of itunes or use other compatible player. These folks have been very helpful to me: iTunes Store Customer Support http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/ww/ -- HTH, Paul Paul Stamsen paterfami...@gmail.com -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: ios7 growing pains
At 8:33 am -0700 9/25/13, regarding ios7 growing pains, Don Wakefield e-mailed: Since my eMac 125 is relegated to iTunes 10 as the maximum, and since Apple has dictated iTunes 11 or greater to be the only versions able to communicate with my newly installed ios7 on my phone, I am at a loss to figure how to get individual mp3s or play lists from my desktop to my phone. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Don Wakefield DTPetc! (DeskTop Productions et cetera!) Ballwin, Missouri, USA You might try Smarts by Doug Adams. Of course I'd Google for it, because I have no idea where I found it in the first place. Paul -- uh, bon joor -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: spammers
At 9:09 am -0400 4/29/13, regarding Re: spammers, Len Gerstel communicated: List Members, Please don't reply to these or comment on them. Every now and again the spammers get through to our list by spoofing an unmoderated member's email address. The Nannies/moderators take action to mitigate the problem, but replying only increases the views. Just ignore and delete. Thanks, Len Gerstel G3-5-List Nanny On Apr 29, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Paul Twiddy wrote: spam On Apr 29, 2013, at 7:05 AM, stauroli...@yahoo.com wrote: I wish I'd understood his warning before I opened the spam, is all. -- uh, bon joor -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: LOG IN brainlock
Not. On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:19 AM, JohnV wrote: How dead am I? -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Music stream capture app?
On 8/6/12 3:30 pm, JoeTaxpayer wrote: Audio Hijack allows for advanced settings. For example, to capture a scheduled show. There are still a few radio shows that are not archived, so setting AH to record a weekly saturday night show was a great option. It also has silence detection, so if you let it run with Pandora most songs will be separate sound files. Anyone know of one that will work with Mountain Lion? -- Trying to determine what is going on in the world by reading newspapers is like trying to tell the time by watching the second hand of a clock. -- -- Ben Hecht -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: G5 up and running, what about browsers?
On 7/27/12 2:11 pm, MaGioZal wrote: On 7/27/12 4:49 PM, Paul Stamsen atpaterfami...@gmail.com wrote: P.S. I dislike the new Google Groups interface. Blech! Newsgroups are supposed to be simple and texty, not full of CPU slowing frames and complex. Then you'll HATE the new FB Timeline!! ;) Well, first I was confused with the FB timeline, but with some time I'e got used to it -- because there are no way to turn back to the old interface, anyway... that's why I didn't go there! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: G5 up and running, what about browsers?
On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:57 am, t...@prismnet.com wrote: On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:00:06 AM UTC-5, MaGioZal wrote: P.S. I dislike the new Google Groups interface. Blech! Newsgroups are supposed to be simple and texty, not full of CPU slowing frames and complex. Then you'll HATE the new FB Timeline!! ;) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Anyone Else Buy Powerlogix 1.0Ghz G3 From Alan Cottrill?
At 3:56 am -0500 6/6/12, Charles Lenington wrote eloquently: On 6/5/12 10:48 AM, t...@io.com wrote: He placed a FS ad in the LEM Swap list on Apr. 25th, and has claimed that he shipped it three different times, with various excuses afterwards, except the latest--haven't heard from him in over a week, after the latest claim of shipping. Needless to say, I have not received the item, so I'm wondering if he sold it to more than one person. The middle excuse was that he was in the hospital, so it is possible that he's been re-hospitalized. But, he said he had shipped it, not that he would ship it, so if he wasn't lying, it should have arrived over a week ago. So, anyone else have any useful insight? Thanks, Jeff Walther I don't see mention of this problem on the swap feedback list. Which is where this thread shoulda been posted! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: mail
At 9:23 am -0400 5/11/12, Baldassare Guzzo wrote eloquently: I will look at Eudora. I had it on my Mac's for years way back but stopped using it for some reason. Think is was version 5. Thanks. Keep in mind that it won't work after Snow Leopard ;-( -- Trying to determine what is going on in the world by reading newspapers is like trying to tell the time by watching the second hand of a clock. -- -- Ben Hecht -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: mail
At 4:51 PM -0700 5/10/12, Bruce Johnson wrote eloquently: On May 10, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: PM G4 933 and Mail 3.6. Is there any way that Mail will not select the next message after deleting a message? In other words, if you open Mail then select a message and delete it, Mail automatically goes to the next message (and it is now read). Can I stop it from selecting the next message? I don't think I've EVER seen a mail client that didn't do this...and no I don't think there's a way around it. I think Eudora was the only one which gave you a choice, Dan you use Eudora, have I got it right? Paul -- I have come to the conclusion that politics are too serious a matter to be left to the politicians. -- Charles De Gaulle -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Constant HD activity
Does such constant HD activity happen with external HD's attached to Windows laptops? Dr. Paul J. Cefola Adjunct Professor, Dept. Of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering, University at Buffalo (SUNY) Consultant in Aerospace Systems, Spaceflight Mechanics, Astrodynamics 508-696-1884 (Vineyard Haven MA home phone) 978-201-1393 (cell) paulc...@buffalo.edu paul.cef...@gmail.com On 3/19/2012 10:23 AM, JohnV wrote: On Mar 18, 2012, at 12:45 PM, gifutiger wrote: John, If it is your Spotlight then click on the Spy Glass in the upper right corner and you should see a message that Spotlight is indexing your system. If you have more than one drive then the message will say which drive is being indexed. This is going on constantly, for days (I may have just not paid attention before, maybe it;s new), and when I check SPOTLIGHT it merely hows a blue bar with a blank white window. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: NO start up chime
At 3:27 pm -0800 2/27/12, faithie999 wrote: i have a G4 Sawtooth that every now and then doesn't issue the startup chime. it boots and runs fine. if i want to get the chime back, i reset PRAM (command-option-P-R at startup). that brings the chime back. You might try a new battery. -- Results! Why, man, I have gotten a lot of results. I know several thousand things that won't work. -- Thomas A. Edison -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox/TenFourFox
Previously, at 1:00 AM -0600 1/8/12, as Kris Tilford so eloquently wrote: On older PPC Macs I believe the final PPC version of Safari 5.0.6(5533.22.3) currently offers the most HTML5 video compatibility. Firefox TenFourFox only support Ogg Theora WebM and don't support mpeg4 or H.264. That said, I believe YouTube uses WebM for HTML5 so both browsers should work? What's best with OSX 10.4.11 ( I have BW with a 600 MHz PowerPC G4 and 1 GB RAM) -- Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. -- Arthur C. Clarke -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dashboard
Previously, at 10:37 PM -0600 11/7/11, as Kris Tilford so eloquently wrote: In Tiger 10.4 you can use the app Disable Tiger Features 1.03: http://d-t-f.sourceforge.net/ I can't seem to get rid of the little Spotlight Icon? Thanks, Paul -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dashboard
Previously, at 6:38 PM +0100 11/7/11, as Valter Prahlad so eloquently wrote: I always disliked SpotLight, and I'm glad I got rid of it. Besides, people reported it often can't find the files you're looking for. How did you get rid of it and is the upper right icon (in 10/4) gone? P. -- Honest criticism is hard to take, particularly from a relative, a friend, an acquaintance, or a stranger. -- Franklin P. Jones -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GMail phasing out basic view?
I only run into 'basic view' when I am on travel and dealing with a hotel with cruddy networking. Dr. Paul J. Cefola Adjunct Professor, Dept. Of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering, University at Buffalo (SUNY) Consultant in Aerospace Systems, Spaceflight Mechanics, Astrodynamics 508-696-1884 (Vineyard Haven MA home phone) 978-201-1393 (cell) paulc...@buffalo.edu paul.cef...@gmail.com On 10/17/2011 9:48 AM, Geke wrote: You know that with Google Mail, you can choose basic view (instead of the standard view which loads slower and has more features). Just now I discovered that I can't set this basic view as the default, as I could in the past. So if you have a slow computer or connection and your Gmail account is set to basic view, don't click on standard view anymore, because that will change the default and you can't go back! Actually, my computerconnection are not slow, it's just that I rarely need the extra features and I hate the wait while that standard view is loading. The bad feeling I get from this is that it looks like Google is preparing to phase out the basic view interface altogether. At the moment, you can still get it by clicking on a button while the interface is loading. Or by changing your bookmark to https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=html At least, that's what someone on the forum writes. It doesn't work for me. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!
Previously, at 8:22 PM +0200 4/6/11, as Mac User #330250 so eloquently wrote: (snip) The chief danger in that script is that if you do an OF reset you will lose access to the part of the drive above 128Gb until you re-activate the script. Sorry, I missed that. How again? No danger if the first partition is the boot partition and is limited to the size if 128 GB. Just don't use Disk Utility on it and you cannot do any harm to the other partitions that won't be visible until you've reset the OF hack and stored it in NVRAM again. If you keep your current 128Gb partition that will still be available, just any new partition you create will not be available. Exactly! You might want to create a small unused partition, one that spans the transition point then create t third partition that uses the remainder of the drive. The transition partition insures that no part of the third partition is available to the OS if the OF patch is missing. Worth thinking about, yes. If your fist partition IS exactly the 128 GB limit, you don't need this though. If part of it was accessible there is the possibility of it being corrupted. Yes. In such a case: avoid using this partition until the OF hack is restored. The danger is of course that OS utilities such as spotlight will write some data to the disk without you recognizing it. It will propably span over to the first partition and corrupt its data. DANGEROUS! It's hard to say what the OS or any repair tools might do to a disk that is only partly visible, it may attempt to repair the problem. Yes. Thanks, p -- IMPORTANT: This email is intended for the use of the individual addressee(s) named above and may contain information that is confidential, privileged or unsuitable for overly sensitive persons with low self-esteem, no sense of humor or irrational beliefs. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is not authorized (either explicitly or implicitly) and constitutes an irritating social faux pas. Unless the word absquatulation has been used in its correct context somewhere other than in this warning, it does not have any legal or no grammatical use and may be ignored. No animals were harmed in the transmission of this email, although the Kelpie next door is living on borrowed time, let me tell you. Those of you with an overwhelming fear of the unknown will be gratified to learn that there is no hidden message revealed by reading this warning backwards, so just ignore that Alert Notice from Microsoft. However, by pouring a complete circle of salt around yourself and your computer you can ensure that no harm befalls you and your pets. If you have received this email in error, please add some nutmeg and egg whites, whisk and place in a warm oven for 40 minutes. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: LogMeIN question
Previously, at 3:06 PM -0500 3/26/11, as Kris Tilford so eloquently wrote: I seem to get this fairly often, and the lights only dim perhaps one of three times. Another third of the time I hear a major appliance kick on just before the alarm, this can be a washing machine, or a refrigerator compressor, or an air conditioner. The final third of the time there is no outward sign, the alarm just goes off on it's own. It's a major hassle because resetting the alarm will kill the Mac, which makes zero sense to me since the whole idea of UPS is uninterrupted power so you'd think that you should be able to reset the alarm without interrupting the power, but that's not how it works, so I must then Shutdown and reboot. I've got two of these units, and both test out good for the batteries, so I'm assuming I've got some sort of voltage issue with my mains. My house is fairly new, and I've never had problems with electricity for any other uses other than these UPS alarms going off about once a week or so. IINM, dimming lights are a sign of an underwired house. I'd contact an electrician or your power company (they might not charge you, even!) p. -- Results! Why, man, I have gotten a lot of results. I know several thousand things that won't work. -- Thomas A. Edison -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [Manager Comment] Re: Posting Problem
Previously, at 10:06 AM -0700 2/23/11, as Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: On Feb 23, 2011, at 8:39 AM, Fabian Fang wrote: Until Lion is released in the coming months, Leopard and Snow Leopard are the current and latest Mac OS. It makes good sense for members of the G-Group to join our Leopard Group to seek or provide assistance. Sorry to continue the meta-discussion, but I'd really like to add my 2 cents. (snip) If I were king of the forest, all these myriad LEM lists would be reduced to a handful: 68K Macs (both laptop and desktops, because these are waaay obsolete by now.) OldWorld Macs (PowerPC old world machines, both laptops and desktops as above.) PowerPC desktops (covering pci-based PowerMacs from the iMac and beige 60x and G3 models up through the G5 models, both PowerMac and iMac.) PowerPC laptops(covering all New World Powerbooks and iBooks) Intel desktops (covering all intel-based desktop systems Mac Pros and iMacs) Intel laptops (covering all models of MacBook.) LEMSwap (of course!) There is NO REASON to ghettoize OS discussion into it's own groups; particularly as there are often hardware-specific issues along with the question, and as often as not there are questions like 'I need a web cam, what's a good suggestion?' That's not really tied to any hardware or software; so you would ask it on the list for your particular Mac. (snip) I passed the message on to Dan Knight lowend...@gmail.com, which has always served me well in the past. Paul -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Mouse/keyboard? problems
I don't know if it's my Logitech Mouse (corded, laser) or my BW but I can't seem to get solid connections. Sometimes I have to switch to my MacMouse, but I don't get consistent use. Clicking on links just is all over the place, but mostly it won't work. I have to highlight the link and paste it onto my browser. The keyboard too, is erratic and sometimes when I highlight for a cut-and-paste the wrong part of the sentence is effected. Any thoughts: I'm running 10.4.1 Build 8S165 and have 1 GB of RAM on a 600 MHz Power PC G4. -- Thanks, Paul pjspop @ bresnan.net -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mouse/keyboard? problems
Previously, at 9:57 AM -0800 1/1/11, as John Carmonne so eloquently wrote: On Jan 1, 2011, at 9:33 AM, Paul Stamsen wrote: I don't know if it's my Logitech Mouse (corded, laser) or my BW but I can't seem to get solid connections. Sometimes I have to switch to my MacMouse, but I don't get consistent use. Clicking on links just is all over the place, but mostly it won't work. I have to highlight the link and paste it onto my browser. The keyboard too, is erratic and sometimes when I highlight for a cut-and-paste the wrong part of the sentence is effected. Any thoughts: I'm running 10.4.1 Build 8S165 and have 1 GB of RAM on a 600 MHz Power PC G4. - I have the Logitech laser corded mouse on all my Mac's and really like them You say you have Tiger 10.4.1? Perhaps did you mean Tiger 10.4.11? That mouse doesn't like a shiny surface I make sure to use a dull opaque pad:-) No, the surface isn't shiny. It used to work just fine. Maybe it somehow needs cleaning? At 11:53 AM -0700 1/1/11, Bruce Johnson wrote: Is the mouse plugged into the KB? No, I used the ADB KB (IIRC) If the KB is having issues it could affect both devices; try the mouse in a different USB port. Look in the System log (using the Console app in Utilities) for USB errors. I'll try those ideas next. Thanks, Paul -- Honest criticism is hard to take, particularly from a relative, a friend, an acquaintance, or a stranger. -- Franklin P. Jones -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mouse/keyboard? problems
Previously, at 4:06 PM -0800 1/1/11, as John Carmonne so eloquently wrote: Have you installed the Logitech software? It's called Logitech Control Center for Macintosh® OS X: http://www.logitech.com/en-us/584/3129? This is a new one for me I always just plug and play on the G3's and G4's and G5's with Tiger and Leopard. I really like the mouse because it's light and the right click with the scroll wheel is a welcome feature on the PPC machines. I just did and it seems to be making a difference - except it cannot identify my keyboard But the key board works fine. My fingers are crossed a,d that makes typing much harder ,-) Paul (thanks guys! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Gonna eat the feast
(\0/) /_\ On Dec 25, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Fluxstringer wrote: Christmas cheer to all. Laying down the hatchets for a day cannot hurt. (\0/) /_\ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes on Tiger
Previously, at 9:07 AM -0800 12/16/10, as Daggett Ken so eloquently wrote: I have a hard time remembering the association of Cat Names with numerical designations, but iTunes 9.2.1 is the latest that I can use with MacOS 10.4.11. Ken and where could one find this version, please? p. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes on Tiger
Previously, at 1:00 PM -0500 12/16/10, as Bill Connelly so eloquently wrote: Probably on the Tiger Install Disk. I found it here FYI http://support.apple.com/kb/dl1056 -- Thanks, Paul paterfami...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MacPorts and Facebook
Previously, at 3:47 AM -0800 12/13/10, as yawg so eloquently wrote: Hi, Apparently some phishy things are going on on Facebook now. This is a screenshot of my son's FB and normally he is my guy in the know, sitting in front of his PeeCee almost 24/7 ... http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=478584562551set=a.44263812551.52532.610327551 This content is currently unavailable oops -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
Previously, at 4:33 PM -0700 12/12/10, as Alex Barnes so eloquently wrote: The thing must've had terrible gas milage. No big deal when gas was 25¢ a gallon or less! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
Previously, at 9:40 PM -0700 12/12/10, as Alex Barnes so eloquently wrote: It is a problem when you live in Texas. When you are driving down I-10 and in the middle of nowhere there are gas stations every 100+ miles. I didn't that then and I'm sure as heck surprised now! Rural Michigan had a lot more gas stations in the ol days. Thanks for the update? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Nanny note Re: 2 Questions
Previously, at 12:28 PM -0800 12/6/10, as ah...clem so eloquently wrote: But don't subject the rest of the list to your bad manners. And stupid tag lines are not against the list rules. Attachments are. Grow up. Dennis Myhand since my initial post to this thread, i have had a private exchange with list nanny Paul Stamsen. i have been accused, because of my post, of being rude and lacking common courtesy. to that i say that when individuals post a response containing one single sentence which actually contributes to an ongoing discussion, but feel the need to append dozens of lines of useless garbage, and do this over and over and over, for example: For the record, I am no longer a nanny on this or any other list, nor have I held myself out to be one in any e-mails to ah...clem. From my point of view, the whole tag line/attachment issue is the result of having too much spare time on ones' hands - including mine. Paul -- IMPORTANT: This email is intended for the use of the individual addressee(s) named above and may contain information that is confidential, privileged or unsuitable for overly sensitive persons with low self-esteem, no sense of humor or irrational beliefs. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is not authorized (either explicitly or implicitly) and constitutes an irritating social faux pas. Unless the word absquatulation has been used in its correct context somewhere other than in this warning, it does not have any legal or no grammatical use and may be ignored. No animals were harmed in the transmission of this email, although the Kelpie next door is living on borrowed time, let me tell you. Those of you with an overwhelming fear of the unknown will be gratified to learn that there is no hidden message revealed by reading this warning backwards, so just ignore that Alert Notice from Microsoft. However, by pouring a complete circle of salt around yourself and your computer you can ensure that no harm befalls you and your pets. If you have received this email in error, please add some nutmeg and egg whites, whisk and place in a warm oven for 40 minutes. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Nanny nag
Previously, at 7:01 PM -0800 12/4/10, as ah...clem so eloquently wrote: exsqueeze me, mr. list nanny sir, but why are you picking on only one person here, john carmonne? i have to scroll past a whole boatload of idiotic tag lines appended at the end of every single post that some Dija read the rules ah...clem? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Changing the subject: WAS: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
Isn't this waaay off-topic? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Changing the subject: WAS: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
Previously, at 11:24 PM -0500 12/2/10, as Isaac Smith so eloquently wrote: On Dec 2, 2010, at 11:15 PM, Paul Stamsen wrote: Isn't this waaay off-topic? It's just in the wrong list, but understandably so, since the G3-5 list is the largest and very few people read the iMac/eMac list. This is the better list to get a response, even if it's the wrong one. Isaac It also has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with computers. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting there
Previously, at 8:59 AM -0800 11/19/10, as Tom so eloquently wrote: It sounds like you have a CD drive in your BW G3. They came with a CD only drive. Most if not all of the OS x disks 10.3 and above are DVD disks and require a combo CD/DVD drive of one flavor or another. Back when Apple would exchange ones newly purchased OS DVD for CDs. What would fit on 1 or 2 DVDs would require 13 or 14 CDs. I went that rout once. And only once. To load the later versions of OSX you will need to change the disk drive or download a copy from another hard drive preferably with CCC. Check in System Profiler to see which disk drive you have. That might be what your difficulty is. PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D, I have a copy of 10.3.9, so I'm good to go for now. Thanks, P. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting there
Previously, at 1:29 PM -0600 11/19/10, as Kris Tilford so eloquently wrote: On Nov 19, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Paul Stamsen wrote: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D What does the verbose message say when you try to boot a disc using Cmd-v? It says it cannot connect with the DVD drive. Are you certain the jumpers aren't in conflict on the drives? Pretty sure. They worked fine before and I haven't changed any. p. System Information Platform: Macintosh System Version: 10.3.9 Processor: PowerPC G4 Physical RAM Installed: 1048,576K Total RAM: 2097,148K TCP/IP Version: OpenTransport Main Video: 32 bit color at 1024x768 pixels PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D End System Information -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting there
Previously, at 3:37 PM -0600 11/19/10, as Kris Tilford so eloquently wrote: I've never heard of such a message in the verbose dialog? Sounds like a hardware issue which you won't fix by changing discs. Sorry, I paraphrased. Anyway I got a black label Panther and it's installed. I'd rather do Tiger but everyone wants too much $. Thanks for your effort, I appreciate it and the whole of LEM lists. Paul -- Honest criticism is hard to take, particularly from a relative, a friend, an acquaintance, or a stranger. -- Franklin P. Jones -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting there
Previously, at 8:48 PM -0800 11/17/10, as Jonas Ulrich so eloquently wrote: I've also had several Blue and Whites, all of which ran 10.4 fine. Have you checked if the firmware is up to date? The problem seems to be in the CD drive. The install disk is not loading. Thanks, p. -- I have a rock garden. Last week three of them died. -- Richard Diran -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Getting there
Over the weekend I managed to gunge up my BW to the point where a re-install was necessary. I've gotten as far as 10.2.3 and can get no further, despite good copies of 10.3.3. I cannot seem to find the right version of XpostFacto. 3.0 won't see the discs, 4. won't see anything. I am so spoiled by years of painless Tiger I'm hopeless. Anyone have a lot of patience to spare? As near as I can tell, I got both h/ds in pretty good shape. And, less I've chosen wrong, I believe this would be the right list? Thanks, Paul paterfami...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting there
Previously, at 1:40 PM -0700 11/17/10, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 17, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I installed OSX 10.4 on my old Smurf and XPostFacto was required. 10.2 (Jaguar) was the last OS version that was fully supported on the Smurf. That is absolutely not true. I've installed 10.4 directly onto one. OK, OK, time to 'fess up. I'm trying to use two dark grey disks for an eMac (which have been fine previously) but I cannot get the Smurf to boot from them nor do any versions of XPF see them. I had no problem in the past using those same discs and no, I don't recall which way you spell disxs. Paul -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting there
Previously, at 3:40 PM -0700 11/17/10, Bruce Johnson wrote: Are you SURE about the 'no problems in the past'? Because gray disks are system-specific restore disks, and typically do not work on other systems. X my heart. I used XPF and it worked, I dunno, sometime its macMagic, I guess. ;-) P. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting there
Previously, at 4:30 PM -0800 11/17/10, Clark Martin wrote: I'm pretty sure you CAN install Tiger using XPF on those machines that support Tiger directly, it's just that you don't NEED to use XPF. Many of the machines NOT supported by Tiger are on that list simply because they don't have FireWire, not that they can't otherwise run Tiger. In those cases XPF is simply getting the installer to bypass the machine check. If the machine does have FireWire the installer still goes ahead and installs on it. If you don't know if a machine needs XPF or not it's probably best to try without it first. No sense adding an extra level of complexity. Good thought, Occam's Razor, I wish I could figure out why I can't get Jagular to boot with with of without XPF. P. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting there
Previously, at 5:05 PM -0800 11/17/10, as Andrew Liu Anderson so eloquently wrote: Both are variants of the same word, like Grey and Gray. As I recall, one spelling is more popular in the UK the other is more popular in the US, but both are correct in either country. Saved! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting there
Previously, at 6:40 PM -0600 11/17/10, Kris Tilford wrote: On Nov 17, 2010, at 5:01 PM, Paul Stamsen wrote: It sees the disks. Just won't boot from them. I've tried all three methods. All these posting about whether or not you need XPF and we still don't know what happens when you try to boot the disc? For example, you say all three methods, but I can think of a lot more than three. Thank you, I'll try to answer your questions: If the install disc mounts on the Desktop under your currently installed 10.2.3 (why are you not at 10.2.8?), then the first method is to double-click the Install OS X icon of the install disc. Double-clicking on the Install button results in a Restart panel which then results in the spinning gear ad nauseum. Cold-starting holding down the c key same results. Cold-starting holding down Command-option-delete-shift results in the blinking face question-mark folder, eventually restarts in the current OS 10.2.3. Selecting the install disk in the startup preferences. Same results. I'm on 10.2.3 because that's all I have. I can't find an update with the minimalist OS. (I'm sure there is a URL, I judt don't know it. (Knew I shoulda kept a notebook!) XPostFacto is NOT needed for the BW, but can be very helpful. For example, if the installer disc has a system check, XPF sometimes can bypass that system check, enabling these grey discs to work on any Mac. Another thing that XPF can do is enable Firewire booting, which I don't believe was supported on the BW. XPF also offers a GUI for enabling certain boot flags permanently, so XPF can add some functionality to the BW that isn't easily available otherwise. The problem seems to be getting a good copy of the appropriate XPF so far 3.0 or 3.1 can't see the install disk. 4.0 says it is not for this Power PC (as I recall I am getting a little foggy in my old age and at this late hour . . . p. -- Honest criticism is hard to take, particularly from a relative, a friend, an acquaintance, or a stranger. -- Franklin P. Jones -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting there
Previously, at 10:06 PM -0600 11/17/10, as Kris Tilford so eloquently wrote: Hold the Cmd-v keys at the Restart and see what the hold-up is? Says it cannot load the disk drive (I think) p. -- Results! Why, man, I have gotten a lot of results. I know several thousand things that won't work. -- Thomas A. Edison -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple inside?
Previously, at 8:22 pm + 10/25/10, Charles Davis wrote: On Oct 26, 2010, at 12:15 AM, Amanda Ward wrote: On Oct 25, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Tina K. mailto:penguir...@gmail.compenguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2010/10/25 14:48, Andrew Liu Anderson so eloquently wrote: Sorry in advance if this is a bring-down for some folks. It's just time that our world, Apple fans included, do a little slw-dn, back-up re-evaluate our values. Not at all. I'm very happy with my PPC Macs (except for Flash of course) and there isn't a day that goes by that I'm not tempted to upgrade from Leopard to Tiger. By the time I see an Intel Mac, or Hackintosh, the Mac OS will probably be up to 10.9Š iCougar? We have lots of cats left on the list: Asian Golden Cat Fishing Cat Wildcat (many varieties) Sand Cat Geoffroy's Cat Serval Caracal Cheetah Margay Iriomote Cat Jaguar Leopard (used) Black Panther (Panther has been used) Puma (used) Lynx Bobcat Lion (used) Tiger (used) -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 Let's not forget Tabby and Calico! ;-) Amanda And then there are the Black White Tuxedo kitty's [Black, with white paws shirtfront, white tip on tail] Chuck D. Missed my favorite: The Savannah Cat p. -- What I look forward to is continued immaturity followed by death. -- Dave Barry -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Power Macintosh G3/266 tabletop
I have some questions regarding a Power Mac G3/266 machine. Is this the correct group to ask the questions to? Paul -- Dr. Paul J. Cefola Adjunct Professor, Dept. Of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering, University at Buffalo (SUNY) Consultant in Aerospace Systems, Spaceflight Mechanics, Astrodynamics 978-579-9668 (phone) 978-201-1393 (cell) paulc...@buffalo.edu paul.cef...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Safari crashing
Previously, at 2:09 pm -0400 7/17/10, Dan wrote: At 2:35 PM -0700 7/16/2010, Bruce Johnson wrote: You appear to be running both SafariBlock and ClicktoFlash? Turn off or uninstall SafariBlock. SafariBlock and ClickToFlash work well with each other. SafariBlock clobbers by URL string. ClickToFlash gets control if Flash content is involved that wasn't blocked by SafariBlock. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. You know I still don't get it. What about Pith Helmet? p. -- What I look forward to is continued immaturity followed by death. -- Dave Barr -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 10.5 on a G4 400 MHZ Sawtooth
At 6:39 am -0700 6/7/10, John Carmonne wrote: On Jun 7, 2010, at 6:24 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: On Jun 7, 2010, at 9:16 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Post a system profiler screen shot please. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP Uh, no. Posting attachments is not allowed on the list. Posting somewhere like fliker and posting the link is perfectly fine. A link will be fine, however it's done. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP Or you could always send it direct. -- I have too much respect for the idea of God to make it responsible for such an absurd world. -- Georges Duhamel -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
e: Do you need a ROM Patch for BW G3 if G4 Zif is installed?
Previously, at 8:36 am -0700 5/23/10, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 21, 2010, at 6:06 PM, Gus wrote: I am considering putting a G4 zif into my G3 BW. I saw on some upgrade sites that a software patch (ROM Patch) was needed. Depending on which card was installed each vendor had its own patch. If I happen to find a zif from a G4 Yikes, would I still need a rom patch? Would one from the third party sites work? Any advice from anyone that has done this type of upgrade would be appreciated. Yes. All of them do the same thing, so you could use any one. Apple patched the G3 ROM to explicitly prevent G4 zif's from working. The patch undoes that. which sites? How can I tell if my BW has the patch? thnx, p. -- It's a lot like nature. You only have as many animals as the ecosystem can support and you only have as many friends as you can tolerate the bitching of. -- Randy K. Milholland, Something Positive Comic, 08-16-05 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Low End Mac weak on Facebook !
Previously, at 1:46 am -0700 5/18/10, Ross wrote: I'm the originator of THIS post, and I concur with the other responders here that you are one arrogant, insulting supercilious (snip) diet, so I won't be partaking of the Facebook feasting. As off-topic as this thread is, the whole thing *should* have taken place on FB! As to the ability to go off-line, there are at least two ways I can see: wall-to-wall and chat (located in the lower right-hand corner) That being said, no one is being forced to use FB and indeed some posts are pretty immature, but that, I would suggest, is a function of who you friend. Remember, you can pick your friends and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose! Also, may I suggest this thread has run its course? Paul -- Honest criticism is hard to take, particularly from a relative, a friend, an acquaintance, or a stranger. -- Franklin P. Jones -- It's a lot like nature. You only have as many animals as the ecosystem can support and you only have as many friends as you can tolerate the bitching of. -- Randy K. Milholland, Something Positive Comic, 08-16-05 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
WebKit Nightly
Previously, at 12:55 am -0400 5/6/10, Dan wrote: As discussed in a previous thread, Safari 4.0.5 has some memory leaks, so use WebKit Nightly and ClickToFlash... I am constantly being cautioned about Safari plug-ins. Should I trash 'em and where are they so I can? p. -- It's a lot like nature. You only have as many animals as the ecosystem can support and you only have as many friends as you can tolerate the bitching of. -- Randy K. Milholland, Something Positive Comic, 08-16-05 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: So what do you think about the iPad?
I certainly wouldn't buy one without a usb port, and I don't think I'd buy anything with a store lock-in either. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Desktop Image
Previously, at 7:19 am -0700 3/4/10, Kasm279 wrote: On Mar 4, 2010, at 7:15 AM, Gottick International wrote: This is one of these irritating minor things I'm trying to place an image at the center of my desktop and use a plan color as background. For some reaseon the desktop settings gizmo refuses to do this and instaed splashes the image either all over the desktop or repeats it like tiles. Anyone has the sligthest idea how to kick the desktop app in the balls? I'm on a Quicksilver running X.5 A All i can think of is to open an image editor and make an image the same size as the monitor (resolution), fill it with the color you want, and copy/paste the image into the center. Didn't work for me. If I use Graphic Converter, can I make all the pix in my pictures folder the right size to fit my desktop? Now how? p. (see Wodrow, below) -- I not only use all the brains that I have, but all that I can borrow. --Woodrow Wilson -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Desktop Image
Previously, at 9:35 pm -0500 3/4/10, Bill Connelly wrote: If I use Graphic Converter, can I make all the pix in my pictures folder the right size to fit my desktop? You shouldn't need to do all that. System Preferences Desktop Screen Saver Desktop Choose Folder Where Your Valid Images Are, Select Center and then click on the color selection box Choose Your Plan Color ... That should be it ... You then have to wait for it to change pictures one time before it becomes active ... or maybe Logout and Log back in ... If don't have admin rights, maybe you cannot do that ... but I don't think that's it. Maybe someone else can help ... -- I'm on Tiger. I want to switch from one picture to another and they are all different sizes, which is why I thought of GG. When I use desktop preferences, Center makes some too large, some too small. Portait mode cuts off the top, stretch to fit distorts, etc. What is Choose Your Plan Color ... p. -- I can't understand it. -- I can't even understand the people who can understand it. -- Queen Juliana, of the Netherlands -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Desktop Image
Previously, at 8:40 pm -0600 3/4/10, Kris Tilford wrote: Your pictures are all the same aspect ratio as your monitor? Normally photos are 3:2 or something close; and monitors are 4:3, 16:9, or 16:10. Unless your photos are in the identical same aspect ratio as your monitor, you'll either need to crop them, or have added margins; unless you decide to change the scale (stretch one or both dimensions). Now how? No. It's how now, brown cow. If you go to System PreferencesDesktop Screen Saver, you can select any folder with photos and OS X can resize any photo as a Desktop photo automatically. You can also use any folder of photos as a slideshow Screen Saver with various effects, and they will resize automatically also. I never noticed what the automatic resize algorithm does, it likely scales (stretches) photos to fit exactly? Please see my previous answer. p. -- Fish is the only food that is considered spoiled once it smells like what it is -- P. J. O'Rourke -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Desktop Image
Previously, at 8:40 pm -0600 3/4/10, Kris Tilford wrote: If you go to System PreferencesDesktop Screen Saver, you can select any folder with photos and OS X can resize any photo as a Desktop photo automatically. You can also use any folder of photos as a slideshow Screen Saver with various effects, and they will resize automatically also. I never noticed what the automatic resize algorithm does, it likely scales (stretches) photos to fit exactly? yeah, makes a mess out of photos of people :-} I need different options for each picture, but the options appear to be Global, drat! p. -- We are born charming, fresh and spontaneous and must be civilized before we are fit to participate in society. -- Judith Martin, (Miss Manners) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Webcam program search for internet access, best or what
Previously, at 12:09 pm -0800 2/21/10, Jonas Lopez wrote: List rules allow once removed question: Webcam program search for Internet access, best or what Acquired webcam and while at work wanted to check up on my dogs and any other trespassers that just might be in my house. Got Skype, Messenger, and iChat - do you know of any others? The problem is that you can set up the cam and aim it at the bed where the dogs like to rest during the time I am at work. BUT leaving the computer on and the camera on will not work. By the time I get to work, 30 minutes, and go on line to my account to view the webcam there is no connection. So, I go home and have a dialog asking for permission to allow view of my bed and dogs. Since I have no one to click this button, the idea fails. Any ideas appreciated. JML With Skype you can pre-authorize a specific user. Under Preferencesvideoautomatically receive video fromPeople in my contact list. Then make sure your office computer is the only Person on your contact list. HTH, P. -- I can't understand it. -- I can't even understand the people who can understand it. -- Queen Juliana, of the Netherlands -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need for list message morphing rule
Previously, at 11:09 pm -0500 2/21/10, Chance Reecher wrote: This is, and should remain an unmoderated list. It keeps the playing field level. If you don't like it, take your questions/comments elsewhere. Don't whine and complain. I beg your pardon: From http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml Who oversees G-Group? Dan Knight of Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/ manages G-Group, which was begun on December 27, 1999. Fabian Feng, Len Gerstel, Tim Gochnour, and Kyle Hansen are the group nannies (group managers). Is G-Group only for those with G3-G5 Power Macs? While anyone may join, this group will be most helpful to those using or considering the purchase of a Power Macintosh G3 or G4 computer. This does not include earlier Power Macs or Maclones with G3 or G4 upgrades. P. -- If we were to wake up some morning and find that everyone was the same race, creed and color, we would find some other cause for prejudice by noon. -- George Aiken -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need for list message morphing rule
Previously, at 11:50 pm -0500 2/21/10, Chance Reecher wrote: I understand that we have nannies overseeing the group. What I mean by unmoderated is that when someone posts, their post doesn't have to be approved, as is the case on the Swaplist. The OP is suggesting that this list be moderated, so their threads don't get off-topic. OK, that makes sense, but whatever is the will of the ListMom. If weird posting etc gets too bad, then we'll get moderated. p. -- The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. -- Robert Jackson -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need info
Sir, I have used Skype on a Mac Laptop in the forest of Virginia. Paul Twiddy Past President of CACC Charlotte Area Computer Club ptwi...@comporium.net Serving Charlotte Since 1978 On Feb 12, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Wm. Arnold wrote: Do any of you on this list use or tried Skype ? Will it work between Windoz Mac ? Thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need info
Previously, at 1:39 pm -0800 2/12/10, Wm. Arnold wrote: Do any of you on this list use or tried Skype ? Will it work between Windoz Mac ? Thanks My son uses it to talk to us, but when his g/f was in California they visited regularly and she has a windows machine. p. -- What we become depends on what we read after all of the professors have finished with us. The greatest university of all is a collection of books. -- Thomas Carlyle -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Google is your friend.
sometimes the problem is in the phrasing! -- I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way. -- Mark Twai -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Some smarter people than I comment about Flash...
Previously, at 4:49 pm -0700 2/1/10, Bruce Johnson wrote: Something I made up on the spur of the moment You're Going Crazy with Acronyms to kinda parodize his response... Maybe more like either: You're Going Acronym Crazy or YGCA? :-P p. -- All television is children's television. -- Richard P. Adler -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
Because: They're fun, useful, experienced, trustworthy, paid for and functional. and my wife has the new one. Paul -- When a person can no longer laugh at himself, it is time for others to laugh at him. -- Thomas Szasz -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
SSD
Does anyone have any recommendations for moderately priced SSD's (Solid State Drives)? I'm looking for IDE and probably 2.5, since then I could use it in a laptop or a desktop machine (with an adapter). 8 GB would probably be too small, but I think I can get away with using something not that much larger than that. Of course, if you know of a good deal on a good 64 GB drive, don't hesitate to speak up... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: VERY good hint today at MacOS X Hints
Previously, at 8:46 pm -0700 1/27/10, Bruce Johnson wrote: http://tinyurl.com/ydmr4ux Run full OS X installer for another drive without rebooting Wow! Will this work with Tiger? I suspect it might, it's worth a shot. can I do it from by BW to my Powerbook G4? and (I hate asking this) how? p. -- Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. - Isaac Asimov -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: NANNY ! Re:
The offending thread containing the spam (entitled [no subject]) is still there. This gives the appearance that the main purpose of Group Managers is to spew scolding flames at well-intentioned members, rather than doing useful things like removing spam. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
On the subject of security, how likely do you think it is that someone will bother to take the time to write malware to attack G3's and G4's running Tiger? It's hard to believe that someone would pay the big bucks for a new mac laptop, wipe the HD, and install Ubuntu! Buying a new PC laptop, dumping windows, and installing some version of linux, yes. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
What kind do you want? I have some old ones in the vault. Paul Twiddy Past President of CACC Charlotte Area Computer Club ptwi...@comporium.net Serving Charlotte Since 1978 On Jan 22, 2010, at 1:55 PM, mlitwin3797 wrote: I'm not cheap. I'm retired. please let me know where I can find an Apple for almost free. -- From: Paul Stamsen pjs...@bresnan.net Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:29 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Previously, at 3:31 pm -0500 1/21/10, graphics...@columbus.rr.com wrote: Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: = So, G-Group: Why are you (still) PowerPC-based Mac users? because I can't afford to upgrade for at least 2 more years. Besides, what's wrong with buying a new computer every 10 yrs? I'm so cheap I wait until they're almost free! P. -- The worst sin toward our fellow creatures is not to hate them, but to be indifferent to them: that's the essence of inhumanity. --George Bernard Shaw -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
How far do you want to go? I have some 6500s down there and I might find a G-3 Beige File Server. I am also retired. Worst job I have ever had. Don't like it. Paul On Jan 22, 2010, at 5:40 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: On Jan 22, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Paul Twiddy wrote: What kind do you want? I have some old ones in the vault. Paul Twiddy Past President of CACC Charlotte Area Computer Club ptwi...@comporium.net Serving Charlotte Since 1978 On Jan 22, 2010, at 1:55 PM, mlitwin3797 wrote: I'm not cheap. I'm retired. please let me know where I can find an Apple for almost free. Lol, im on the other end of the spectrum.. :\ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
Previously, at 3:31 pm -0500 1/21/10, graphics...@columbus.rr.com wrote: Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: = So, G-Group: Why are you (still) PowerPC-based Mac users? because I can't afford to upgrade for at least 2 more years. Besides, what's wrong with buying a new computer every 10 yrs? I'm so cheap I wait until they're almost free! P. -- The worst sin toward our fellow creatures is not to hate them, but to be indifferent to them: that's the essence of inhumanity. --George Bernard Shaw -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Off-Topic RE: PayPal: Yea or Nay?
Previously, at 6:38 pm -0700 1/11/10, Robert Long wrote: As far as I know you Is this supposed to be on-list? I thought these lists were moderated! Paul -- Nobody talks so constantly about God as those who insist that there is no God. -- Heywood Broun -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Off-Topic RE: PayPal: Yea or Nay?
Previously, at 9:53 pm -0500 1/11/10, John Musbach wrote: aren't you a nanny? You should know the moderation state of these lists, at least I would think so... no, I'm not a nanny -- If God lived on earth, people would break his windows. -- Jewish Proverb -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 BW powers up, but no sound and no video
Previously, at 2:07 am +0100 1/7/10, Mac User #330250 wrote: I can boot Mac OS X via OpenFirmware (after pressing Cmd-Opt-O-F): boot hd:12,\\:tbxi I cannot believe it, but Mac OS X 10.3.9 works too on this G3 BW. I run 10.4.11 on mine, but it's been upgraded to a G4 and has 1 GB of Ram. p -- A life of pleasure makes even the strongest mind frivolous at last. -- Edward ulwer-Lytton -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 BW powers up, but no sound and no video
Previously, at 6:52 pm -0700 1/6/10, Kasey Smith wrote: Me too, except for the G4 CPU, mine still has its G3/400MHz and runs faster then my mom's 2.6GHz Dell running winXP ;) Spoken like a true Mac-Head! ;-) :-} P. -- No one has ever had an idea in a dress suit. -- Sir Frederick G. Banting -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Which G?
I've got one of those dual 1.42 G4's, with the maximum memory as well. It's a very nice, fast computer. I was somewhat put off by some reliability reports on the G5, and they were over my price range as well. The big issue for you is if you really need a laptop. If you don't, a desktop will get you a lot more performance at a lot lower price. But if you must haul it to school, the coffee shop, or the library then that's your decision. On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Wayne E wlka...@gmail.com wrote: My choice is a Mac MDD G4 800 in a dual 1.42Gz and it is great. I got it on ebay for only $255 plus shipping. Also bought an Airport Extreme card for it on ebay. I use a 21.6 LCD Samsung monitor I got from an online source at a discount. I also have a 15.2 Mac Titanium G4 laptop that is great for travel. I have been a Mac nut since they first introduced the Mac in 1984. I also have a Dell 9200 tower with a 22 Dell LCD monitor that my wife wanted and a Dell 15 laptop for her. I am an inventor and spend many hours every day on the computer while listening to my stereo in my office at home. Wayne E On Jan 3, 2:18 am, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: That iMac sounds like a great deal! Hope you enjoy. -JonasOn Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:39 PM, kimtoufectis kimtoufec...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 1, 11:59 pm, kimtoufectis kimtoufec...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like help in choosing an older Mac... Wow. What a day and a posting can teach...your responses were exactly what I needed. You made me recognize many things, including: (1) A tower model will often outperform a laptop or an all-in-one desktop model, or said the other way the same money will buy more tower compared with these other choices; (2) While there are many fans of the G processors (me and my clamshell iBook G3 included), Apple has moved on those who write software are increasingly doing likewise; (3) Linux can extend a useful Mac lifespan for those technically oriented and willing to get some of the computational equivalent of axle grease under our fingers. At the end of this day I am clearer about what elegant low-cost sustainable computing means for me: (1) Elegant: compact, ideally with only a power cord leading away from my glass tabletop (thus wifi); (2) Low cost: usable without further expense for a great while, perhaps for the life of the computer; (3) Sustainable: maximizing the time I can keep up with software (mainly browser) advances and security fixes. I want to thank the impressive number of you who responded to my query, from here's my quick opinion to item-by-item responses. It was great to get several recommendations for additional places online to go for information, support, and purchase. So what to do? Since virtually all my computer usage is web browsing, future-proofing means staying as close to the current standards. An all-in-one with wifi seems to fit my elegant standard best. I was pleased to find a 20 (early '06) polycarbonate 2.0GHz Intel iMac seems a good craigslist deal at $575 in good shape, running OS X 10.6. [17 and 10.5 would have served; this was what was available locally.] I offered the full price (over my $500 plan, but avoiding shipping softens that); hopefully it is still available and lives up to its billing... Gratefully-- --Kim -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Retirement time 4 HP LaserJet6 MP?
Look for a chart that shows the distances between the repetitive defects. Certain distances mean it's the toner cartridge, and others mean it's the fuser. And there may be other causes. Another test is to use a known good toner cartridge and see if the problem goes away. I once brought a similar printer to a store that I knew happened to have a printer with the same cartridge, and they let me swap toner cartridges to print a page. (I had happened to see the printer there and asked if I could bring my printer.) If it's the fuser, it might be cheaper to buy the same printer in good used condition than replacing the fuser, though maybe not if you get a used or rebuilt fuser and replace it yourself. You can probably find the service manual as a free downloaded PDF. That would have fuser replacement instructions. If not, write to me, because I have it. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Burning music
I have burned some songs to disks and they play fine in a portable CD player (Walkman, kinda) but they will not play in my car - although regular music disks do. What am I missing? P. -- A healthy male adult bore consumes each year one and a half times his own weigh in other people's patience. -- John Updike :-[ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Other, unwanted intruders
Disconnect from the Internet. Seriously, disk space, bandwidth, and computing power, even today, is very expensive--if you can't financially support the websites you use then you shouldn't be expecting the service they provide you in exchange. I hate people who steal financially from those who rely on ad revenue to stay afloat with ad blockers. How selfish, what--do you all think these people grow money on trees? Oh, so technology should only be used to make us spend more money, and we shouldn't make use of technology that lets us save money and do what we'd like? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Data Recovery Part 2
On Nov 21, 4:05 pm, Roger Kulp thorenstd...@yahoo.com wrote: I was wondering about data recovery myself.I had a G4 MDD,and the surge protector got wet the other day.There was a spectacular fireworks display,that blew out the wiring in the room,and now my poor Mac is dead.:_( Can anything be saved? Even if there's more damage than just the power supply, you could remove the hard drive, connect it to another Mac, and try to get your data from it. If the drive is still OK, you most likely won't need any special recovery software. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Other, unwanted intruders
Previously, referring to Twitter, the new cpu pig,at 3:19 pm -0500 11/26/09, Dan wrote: After beating Flash into submission with ClickToFlash, and blocking various animated ads with SafariBlock, my browsing speed was pretty durn quick! But now sites have begun including globs of Twitter***t, which makes Safari drink most of my CPU and eat more memory, especially if I've opened two or more tabs of these pages! Any ideas on how to block those, or at least stone (freeze) them? ...I'm just starting to look at their code, to see if something like SafariBlock can do it. And I'm getting a **ed pop-ups from NetFlicks or a pop-in from CNet TechTracker. What would you folks suggest to combat them? -- Thanks, Paul pjspop @ bresnan.net -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Other, unwanted intruders
Previously, at 3:53 pm -0500 11/26/09, John Musbach wrote: Disconnect from the Internet. Seriously, disk space, bandwidth, and computing power, even today, is very expensive--if you can't financially support the websites you use then you shouldn't be expecting the service they provide you in exchange. I hate people who steal financially from those who rely on ad revenue to stay afloat with ad blockers. How selfish, what--do you all think these people grow money on trees? I simply don't understand. I'm not allowed to look? and then choose no thanks? -- Lawyers spend a great deal of their time shoveling smoke. -- Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Other, unwanted intruders
Previously, at 4:15 pm -0500 11/26/09, Dan wrote: Specific URLs, so we can look at 'em? You know, I have no idea. Maybe CNET.com, but I have no idea where the NetFlix came from. What ad blocker are you using? Same as you ClickToFlash, and blocking various animated ads with SafariBlock. Thanks for the reasonable assistance and Happy Thanksgiving. P. -- Lawyers spend a great deal of their time shoveling smoke. -- Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Other, unwanted intruders
I found this: com.trolltech.plist, in the prefs and moved it to Preferences (Corrupt) and that seems to have stopped the pop-in from CNet TechTracker. Interesting name, huh? p. -- Whoso would be a man must be a nonconformist. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: External floppy drive for G4
None of the above might be the right answer, if you don't know anything beyond the fact that the plugs fit. If you know for sure that one of them is the right one, then the 800ma one is more likely. I would first try it just powered from the USB port, using an external powered USB port if possible. Some text I read about the FDD-1 suggested that it can run off USB power. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Newbie G4 Dual 1.25 FW 400 OS9 Boot Problem
I don't think it's as much that it has to be the copy of OS 9 made for this model as that it won't work with an OS 9 CD made for another model. The full retail version would probably work. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: HELP! newbie G3 user
If the tower is turquoise then it's definitely a G3. Most PC100 memory should work. Many PC133's, too. Not all memory of either speed will work, because of timing issues. The DIMM First Aid utility runs under OS 9, and can see if your memory will work: http://www.mactcp.org.nz/dimmfirstaid.html Some memory will be rejected when you install the latest firmware update because of timing issues. DIMM First Aid can modify some non- working memory to get it to work. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Data Recovery Part 2
I returned the drive, since the friend who owns it has another large drive to dump saved files, much more than I do. He also has a much newer Mac. I also gave him a copy of PhotoRec and demo versions of File Salvage and Data Rescue. Now I'm waiting to hear if he got any positive results. He's mostly hoping to recover photos he took. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Data Recovery Part 2
Now that I think about it, those Mac system files I mentioned earlier would have been created at the time the hard drive was inadvertently formatted. THen the question is whether these files get modified if nobody is deliberately trying to write to the drive. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Data Recovery Part 2
Unfortunately, connecting the drive to a Mac (running Tiger) creates a few files automatically, such as .DS_Store and .Trashes. Connecting it to a PC creates a Recycled file for the Windows recycling bin. I didn't see a way to make the drive read only. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Data Recovery Part 2
On Nov 15, 4:39 pm, Jim McGee orb...@dslextreme.com wrote: Don't know if this helps http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2216434 There are two parts to that discussion. One is the possibility of setting permissions in OS X so that the drive is read only. But can that be done before the system writes its little files to it? The other part is the fact that a disk drive with the Windows NTFS format will normally be read only on a Mac. NTFS is proprietary to Microsoft, and it's not a format you want for a Mac auxiliary drive. Windows identifies the drive I'm working with as FAT32 and not NTFS. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Will a 1.6 GHz Processor Upgrade Allow my G4 to Run Flash?
Has Flash gotten worse, or were we suffering in the stone age when we had 400 MHz machines? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Data Recovery Part 2
Testdisk seems more suitable for fixing partition problems, rather than recovering a directory structure lost by formatting. The demo versions of both File Salvage and Data Rescue have brought up a bunch of working files. Since the disk is formatted FAT32 (but formatted on a Mac by Disk Utility), I had tried it on a PC, but there several different recovery tools found lots of files, but they were unreadable. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Data Recovery Part 2
As far as I know, none of the tools I used changed the disk at all. Now that I looked at it and found out what it's for, the companion utility to Testdisk - Photorec - looks more promising for what I'm trying to do. It finds deleted files, rather than deleted partitions. There's a version for Mac, Windows, and Linux. And it's free. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Data Recovery Part 2
A couple of months ago, I reported trying to recover an external hard drive used on a Mac but formatted as FAT32. I believe it was wiped out by Disk Utility doing a quick format. Recovery attempts under Windows got a lot of files, but barely any were readable. I'd post a continuation on the old thread, but I'm only given the Reply to Author option, and I assume that means the message wouldn't be public. A local Mac guy suggested running File Salvage on a Mac, and right now the trial version is churning through the disk. It won't let me save anything, but its previews are showing what look like a lot of working files. Has anyone tried File Salvage? Do you know where to get it for less than the $70-$80 prices I've seen? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Compressing DVD9
You can get a free trial version of DVD2OneX: http://www.afterdawn.com/software/alternative_platforms/mac_software/dvd2onex.cfm I haven't tried it, since I've gotten used to using the free DVDshrink on a PC, but afterdawn.com is usually pretty good for advice and recommendations. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Buying a G4 Cube less power supply
Another source for a Cube poser supply is the earlier version of the DVIator from Dr. Botts. Their later DVIator is something else, but the earlier one is the same as the Cube's PS. I'm in the same situation, and it's an interesting concidence that your question came up just after I started thinking about finding a PS for my Cube. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MDD Dual Boot Question
I wonder if yaboot http://yaboot.ozlabs.org/ or grub would do what you want? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MDD Dual Boot Question
Here's the manual for yaboot. http://penguinppc.org/bootloaders/yaboot/doc/yaboot-howto.shtml/index.en.shtml#contents On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Paul Kemner zkem...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if yaboot http://yaboot.ozlabs.org/ or grub would do what you want? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Question about USB ports?
Keyboard and mouse are probably the slowest. A printer is also pretty slow, but a faster transfer will speed things up if it has a memory buffer and you're printing multi-page documents and/or graphics. Midi would be faster. If you've got a usb drive you will want data transfers as fast as possible. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
