Re: G5 monitor fails to fire
On 11/05/2011 21:59, blindspot-smi...@yahoo.co.uk blindspot-smi...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: The monitor will eventually fire up - might take two, three, four G5 power-ups, might have to leave it for hours and just sometimes it might come on immediately. Haven't successfully powered up in safe mode because you have to have the USB keyboard plugged in, and it won't fire up with USBs plugged in. The ATI Radeon 9600 pro has an ADC and a DVI-I port so I have only used the DVI port. The adaptor is to allow me to use the monitor which only has a VGA port. The adaptor goes from the DVI-I port on the G5 to a VGA-VGA cable which runs the monitor. I haven't tried a monitor which can take DVI-I. We do have one in the house but I haven't got a DVI-I/DVI-I cable. Once I get the monitor to fire with the G5 it works well, no wobble, a choice of monitor sizes, millions of colours etc. It also always works well with the G4 (using just the same VGA-VGA cable) I figure some loose component on the G5 card is causing a voltage/charge drop. No bulging or leaking capacitors evident. Unfortunately I haven't got another graphics card to try so I was hoping there might be a dodgy component that always gives trouble and could be resoldered or something. Sounds like a bad dvi/vga adapter - have you checked for bent pins on it? - try a different adapter. Cable pins can be bent too causing intermittent contact. Also worth trying an adc/vga adapter if you can get one Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 monitor fails to fire
On May 12, 2011, at 2:22 AM, pdimage wrote: Sounds like a bad dvi/vga adapter - have you checked for bent pins on it? - try a different adapter. Cable pins can be bent too causing intermittent contact. I agree, the adapter (or cable) seems a likely culprit. It seems like a DVI/DVI cable onto a DVI display would be optimal, but if the display only has VGA, I guess you're stuck with an adapter and a VGA cable. Also worth trying an adc/vga adapter if you can get one ADC/VGA are rare and expensive. Better to buy a new video card or display instead. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G5 monitor fails to fire
My DP G5 running OSX 4.11 fails to wake up the monitor on start up. Monitor at the moment is a Dell flat panel but it was the same with my old Apple studio monitor. G5 chimes happily but monitor's amber light stays amber and fails to go green. I use a DVI/VGA connector, and linking my G4 powerbook to the monitor fires it up each time so the monitor is fine. Disconnecting all USBs and pulling power cable for ten minutes improved matters but now I have to power up 3-4 times or just leave it to another day. I pulled the graphics card (ATI Radeon 9600 pro), and tested for wobbly joins, dust, anything else but drew a blank. As far as I understand it the G5 is not producing a sufficient charge to wake the monitor from power save mode. Is there a specific component on the card that may be at fault, should I get a new card or could there be another explanation? regards AG -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 monitor fails to fire
At 12:22 PM +0100 5/11/2011, ag wrote: DP G5 running OSX 4.11 fails to wake up the monitor on start up. Monitor at the moment is a Dell flat panel but it was the same with my old Apple studio monitor. Ok. So it's not the display. G5 chimes happily but monitor's amber light stays amber and fails to go green. Ok. So it's not the power manager, cpu, or basic bus interconnects. Disconnecting all USBs and pulling power cable for ten minutes improved matters but now I have to power up 3-4 times or just leave it to another day. So it's the card slot, video card, or cable. I pulled the graphics card (ATI Radeon 9600 pro), and tested for wobbly joins, dust, anything else but drew a blank. Check the system.log for error messages. Try a different cable. Try a different interface. Try a different video card. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 monitor fails to fire
On May 11, 2011, at 6:22 AM, ag wrote: Disconnecting all USBs and pulling power cable for ten minutes improved matters but now I have to power up 3-4 times or just leave it to another day. I don't understand? You mean you have to reboot 3 or 4 times and on the 3rd or 4th time the display finally works correctly? Have you done a Safe Boot (hold the Shift key at startup)? I use a DVI/VGA connector, and linking my G4 powerbook to the monitor fires it up each time so the monitor is fine. I'm assuming you're using a DVI/DVI cable from the G5 to the display? The DVI/VGA connector is an adapter you're using with a DVI/DVI cable so you can attach to the G4 PowerBook? If the cable that works with the G4 is the same cable that you're using with the G5 then the cable is likely good even if you're using an adapter. If it's a different cable, you need to try the G5 with a different cable, it could be a bad cable. Intermittent video is often a bad video card, and overheating is always a worry with an air-cooled card like the 9600 Pro. When you inspected the card did you look for popped caps? Is the G5 fan unit working normally? Have you tried both DVI ports on the 9600 Pro? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 monitor fails to fire
Yes, Kris Just to make it clear, taking into account your remarks. The monitor will eventually fire up - might take two, three, four G5 power-ups, might have to leave it for hours and just sometimes it might come on immediately. Haven't successfully powered up in safe mode because you have to have the USB keyboard plugged in, and it won't fire up with USBs plugged in. The ATI Radeon 9600 pro has an ADC and a DVI-I port so I have only used the DVI port. The adaptor is to allow me to use the monitor which only has a VGA port. The adaptor goes from the DVI-I port on the G5 to a VGA-VGA cable which runs the monitor. I haven't tried a monitor which can take DVI-I. We do have one in the house but I haven't got a DVI-I/DVI-I cable. Once I get the monitor to fire with the G5 it works well, no wobble, a choice of monitor sizes, millions of colours etc. It also always works well with the G4 (using just the same VGA-VGA cable) I figure some loose component on the G5 card is causing a voltage/charge drop. No bulging or leaking capacitors evident. Unfortunately I haven't got another graphics card to try so I was hoping there might be a dodgy component that always gives trouble and could be resoldered or something. - Original Message From: Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, 11 May, 2011 20:22:02 Subject: Re: G5 monitor fails to fire On May 11, 2011, at 6:22 AM, ag wrote: Disconnecting all USBs and pulling power cable for ten minutes improved matters but now I have to power up 3-4 times or just leave it to another day. I don't understand? You mean you have to reboot 3 or 4 times and on the 3rd or 4th time the display finally works correctly? Have you done a Safe Boot (hold the Shift key at startup)? I use a DVI/VGA connector, and linking my G4 powerbook to the monitor fires it up each time so the monitor is fine. I'm assuming you're using a DVI/DVI cable from the G5 to the display? The DVI/VGA connector is an adapter you're using with a DVI/DVI cable so you can attach to the G4 PowerBook? If the cable that works with the G4 is the same cable that you're using with the G5 then the cable is likely good even if you're using an adapter. If it's a different cable, you need to try the G5 with a different cable, it could be a bad cable. Intermittent video is often a bad video card, and overheating is always a worry with an air-cooled card like the 9600 Pro. When you inspected the card did you look for popped caps? Is the G5 fan unit working normally? Have you tried both DVI ports on the 9600 Pro? --You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 monitor fails to fire
Have you checked the monitor cable? On May 11, 2011, at 2:59 PM, blindspot-smi...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Yes, Kris Just to make it clear, taking into account your remarks. The monitor will eventually fire up - might take two, three, four G5 power-ups, might have to leave it for hours and just sometimes it might come on immediately. Haven't successfully powered up in safe mode because you have to have the USB keyboard plugged in, and it won't fire up with USBs plugged in. The ATI Radeon 9600 pro has an ADC and a DVI-I port so I have only used the DVI port. The adaptor is to allow me to use the monitor which only has a VGA port. The adaptor goes from the DVI-I port on the G5 to a VGA-VGA cable which runs the monitor. I haven't tried a monitor which can take DVI-I. We do have one in the house but I haven't got a DVI-I/DVI-I cable. Once I get the monitor to fire with the G5 it works well, no wobble, a choice of monitor sizes, millions of colours etc. It also always works well with the G4 (using just the same VGA-VGA cable) I figure some loose component on the G5 card is causing a voltage/charge drop. No bulging or leaking capacitors evident. Unfortunately I haven't got another graphics card to try so I was hoping there might be a dodgy component that always gives trouble and could be resoldered or something. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
