Re: InternetConnectionViaPC?
On Jan 22, 8:37 pm, Paul Twiddy ptwi...@comporium.net wrote: Why don't you try straight from the modem to your modem. Why not take your own WI FI router from their modem. On Jan 22, 2009, at 9:15 AM, starrf...@valley.net wrote: Their modem is internal. I think the simplest solution, to avoid trying to do anything with a mysterious PC, is to bring our Airport Extreme, which has a built-in modem. Then we'll be wireless in the apartment, another advantage. I shudder to think what Airport Security will think of that flying saucer in our luggage. Thanks for all the good advice. Rich --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: InternetConnectionViaPC?
starrf...@valley.net wrote: On Jan 22, 8:37 pm, Paul Twiddy ptwi...@comporium.net wrote: Why don't you try straight from the modem to your modem. Why not take your own WI FI router from their modem. On Jan 22, 2009, at 9:15 AM, starrf...@valley.net wrote: Their modem is internal. I think the simplest solution, to avoid trying to do anything with a mysterious PC, is to bring our Airport Extreme, which has a built-in modem. Then we'll be wireless in the apartment, another advantage. Be prepared to do what I said. A lot of service providers don't work on Macs, only on Windows. I shudder to think what Airport Security will think of that flying saucer in our luggage. Thanks for all the good advice. Rich --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: InternetConnectionViaPC?
On Jan 23, 9:19 am, Hunter Fuller hackmies...@gmail.com wrote: starrf...@valley.net wrote: On Jan 22, 8:37 pm, Paul Twiddy ptwi...@comporium.net wrote: Why don't you try straight from the modem to your modem. Why not take your own WI FI router from their modem. On Jan 22, 2009, at 9:15 AM, starrf...@valley.net wrote: Their modem is internal. I think the simplest solution, to avoid trying to do anything with a mysterious PC, is to bring our Airport Extreme, which has a built-in modem. Then we'll be wireless in the apartment, another advantage. Be prepared to do what I said. A lot of service providers don't work on Macs, only on Windows. No need. We've connected there before with our clamshell's built in modem. Our local isp offers dial-in access numbers all over the country so we don't need to use their provider as long as we have direct access to a modem. Very neat. It's just like being at home. Thanks, Rich --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: InternetConnectionViaPC?
On Jan 23, 2009, at 6:22 AM, starrf...@valley.net wrote: On Jan 22, 8:37 pm, Paul Twiddy ptwi...@comporium.net wrote: Why don't you try straight from the modem to your modem. Why not take your own WI FI router from their modem. On Jan 22, 2009, at 9:15 AM, starrf...@valley.net wrote: Their modem is internal. I think the simplest solution, to avoid trying to do anything with a mysterious PC, is to bring our Airport Extreme, which has a built-in modem. Then we'll be wireless in the apartment, another advantage. I shudder to think what Airport Security will think of that flying saucer in our luggage. Thanks for all the good advice. Rich Just place a nine volt battery in the base so the lights will blink. Paul --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: InternetConnectionViaPC?
I don't know for sure about hooking a Mac to a PC, but to hook 2 PC's together you need to use an ethernet crossover cable. Fred From: Hunter Fuller hackmies...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:34:12 AM Subject: Re: InternetConnectionViaPC? starrf...@valley.net wrote: We're off to visit the inlaws next month. We'll bring the MacBook but unless there's an unprotected neighborhood wireless connection we need to find a way to get on line, They have dialup through their PC. If their computer is online (AOL) can the MacBook see the internet if I just connect it to the PC with an ethernet cable? Yes, if you do this: Plug in the Ethernet cable Start - Control Panel Network Connections Right click on the dial up connection and pick Properties Open the Advanced tab (I think) Pick Allow other network users to connect through this computer's Internet connection If a drop down appears, pick Local Area Connection from it Hit OK Wait a while for the dialog to set things up and then disappear Unplug and replug the Ethernet cable (or use another method to refresh the Mac's IP) Only some dialup connections support this, but you can try it. Thanks. Rich --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: InternetConnectionViaPC?
Fred Miller wrote: I don't know for sure about hooking a Mac to a PC, but to hook 2 PC's together you need to use an ethernet crossover cable. Not true in all cases. Some network adapters autodetect if the cable is wrong and reprogram themselves to handle it. I know that all MacBooks do this. Newer PCs do it also (Macs don't use special network adapters). Fred From: Hunter Fuller hackmies...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:34:12 AM Subject: Re: InternetConnectionViaPC? starrf...@valley.net wrote: We're off to visit the inlaws next month. We'll bring the MacBook but unless there's an unprotected neighborhood wireless connection we need to find a way to get on line, They have dialup through their PC. If their computer is online (AOL) can the MacBook see the internet if I just connect it to the PC with an ethernet cable? Yes, if you do this: Plug in the Ethernet cable Start - Control Panel Network Connections Right click on the dial up connection and pick Properties Open the Advanced tab (I think) Pick Allow other network users to connect through this computer's Internet connection If a drop down appears, pick Local Area Connection from it Hit OK Wait a while for the dialog to set things up and then disappear Unplug and replug the Ethernet cable (or use another method to refresh the Mac's IP) Only some dialup connections support this, but you can try it. Thanks. Rich --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: InternetConnectionViaPC?
On 1/22/09 10:12 AM, Hunter Fuller of hackmies...@gmail.com sent Fred Miller wrote: I don't know for sure about hooking a Mac to a PC, but to hook 2 PC's together you need to use an ethernet crossover cable. Not true in all cases. Some network adapters autodetect if the cable is wrong and reprogram themselves to handle it. I know that all MacBooks do this. Newer PCs do it also (Macs don't use special network adapters). Fred Crossover cables for Macs were de rigueur during the beige days, but using standard straight-through E-Net cables has been with us since the iMac G4s and contemp. Towers/laptops, maybe earlier. Connecting to a PC is an OS-specific situation, iirc, but if the PC in question is running XP, you should be okay. Just my 2¢ worth. Best regards, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: InternetConnectionViaPC?
On 22-01-2009 15:41, Fred Miller, cableman1...@yahoo.com, wrote: I don't know for sure about hooking a Mac to a PC, but to hook 2 PC's together you need to use an ethernet crossover cable. Not needed with MacBook for it has smart ethernet. Jo Hissel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: InternetConnectionViaPC?
Howdy, The feature is called Auto MDIX(Automatic medium-dependent interface crossover). All gig ethernet cards will support it, since it is part of the spec. Most recent switches support it. I have a crossover cable, but have not needed it in a while. On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 12:49 -0500, Dana Collins wrote: On 1/22/09 10:12 AM, Hunter Fuller of hackmies...@gmail.com sent Fred Miller wrote: I don't know for sure about hooking a Mac to a PC, but to hook 2 PC's together you need to use an ethernet crossover cable. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: InternetConnectionViaPC?
Why don't you try straight from the modem to your modem. Why not take your own WI FI router from their modem. On Jan 22, 2009, at 9:15 AM, starrf...@valley.net wrote: We're off to visit the inlaws next month. We'll bring the MacBook but unless there's an unprotected neighborhood wireless connection we need to find a way to get on line, They have dialup through their PC. If their computer is online (AOL) can the MacBook see the internet if I just connect it to the PC with an ethernet cable? Thanks. Rich --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
