Re: new icon for networked mac?

2011-05-31 Thread Bruce Johnson

On May 30, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

 in the side bar of the finder window appears my media mac under the 
 shared portion of that side bar... question is, how to change the icon for 
 that media mac? can this be done? how?

This might work:

http://www.panic.com/candybar/

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Re: new icon for networked mac?

2011-05-31 Thread Jeffrey Engle

On May 31, 2011, at 9:26 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

 in the side bar of the finder window appears my media mac under the 
 shared portion of that side bar... question is, how to change the icon for 
 that media mac? can this be done? how?
 
 This might work:
 
 http://www.panic.com/candybar/

Bruce,
Nope, just tried it... :-) Thanks for the idea though.
 

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Re: new icon for networked mac?

2011-05-31 Thread Bruce Johnson

On May 31, 2011, at 10:43 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

 On May 31, 2011, at 9:26 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
 
 in the side bar of the finder window appears my media mac under the 
 shared portion of that side bar... question is, how to change the icon 
 for that media mac? can this be done? how?
 
 This might work:
 
 http://www.panic.com/candybar/
 
 Bruce,
   Nope, just tried it... :-) Thanks for the idea though.

I think the issue is that the icons showing in the sidebar are system 'icons' 
that are difficult to change. They may actually not be icons at all, but 
different objects in the Finder's .nib files.

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Re: new icon for networked mac?

2011-05-31 Thread Kris Tilford

On May 31, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

I think the issue is that the icons showing in the sidebar are  
system 'icons' that are difficult to change. They may actually not  
be icons at all, but different objects in the Finder's .nib files.


If you connect to a Windows PC the Shared icon is an OS X Easter Egg  
that shows a really old CRT monitor with a Windows blue screen of  
death and the Windows crash exception code and a warning saying if you  
press CTL+ALT+DEL you'll lose all unsaved data.


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Re: new icon for networked mac?

2011-05-31 Thread Kris Tilford

On May 31, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:


Nope, just tried it... :-) Thanks for the idea though.


Here's an idea:

There are some instructions on changing stubborn icons here:

http://web.archive.org/web/20081021135631/http://www.iheartny.com/howto_03.html 



Then navigate to /System/Library/CoreServices/Finder and Ctl-click and  
then Show Package Contents. In the Contents/Resources folder are a  
bunch of System icons and System icon bundles. Find the correct icon  
and replace it using the instructions from the website above.


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Re: new icon for networked mac?

2011-05-31 Thread Bruce Johnson

On May 31, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:

 On May 31, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:
 
 Nope, just tried it... :-) Thanks for the idea though.
 
 Here's an idea:
 
 There are some instructions on changing stubborn icons here:
 
 http://web.archive.org/web/20081021135631/http://www.iheartny.com/howto_03.html
 
 Then navigate to /System/Library/CoreServices/Finder and Ctl-click and then 
 Show Package Contents. In the Contents/Resources folder are a bunch of System 
 icons and System icon bundles. Find the correct icon and replace it using the 
 instructions from the website above.

Note that this will not achieve what the OP wants, which is that a *specific* 
network-connected volume have a different icon in the sidebar. I don't think 
that is possible at all.

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Re: new icon for networked mac?

2011-05-31 Thread Jeffrey Engle

On May 31, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

 Note that this will not achieve what the OP wants, which is that a *specific* 
 network-connected volume have a different icon in the sidebar. I don't think 
 that is possible at all.


Ok, so this is one of those small challenges I like to call a rainy day mind 
twister:-)

I managed to find the icon, or at least where it resides:  
System/Library/CoreServices/CoreTypes.bundle/Contents/Resources/

And after looking in there, found that the system on my imac attaches one of 
these icons to what it thinks the machine is? Problem is, it's using the 
generic icon and several of the macs on that list use the generic icon?.. hmm

Another thought was, how to make the imac see the powermac G4 MDD in the 
other room as what it actually is? is it something in sharing on the MDD that 
needs to be entered chosen etc.? so that the imac in the other room can 
identify it correctly? hmm the mystery goes on.  


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Re: new icon for networked mac?

2011-05-31 Thread Bruce Johnson

On May 31, 2011, at 3:45 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

 
 On May 31, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
 
 Note that this will not achieve what the OP wants, which is that a 
 *specific* network-connected volume have a different icon in the sidebar. I 
 don't think that is possible at all.
 
 
 Ok, so this is one of those small challenges I like to call a rainy day mind 
 twister:-)
 
 I managed to find the icon, or at least where it resides:  
 System/Library/CoreServices/CoreTypes.bundle/Contents/Resources/
 
 And after looking in there, found that the system on my imac attaches one 
 of these icons to what it thinks the machine is? Problem is, it's using the 
 generic icon and several of the macs on that list use the generic icon?.. hmm

No, the icon represents *what kind* of connection is seen: Disk Image, internal 
Disk, USB, FW, AFP mount, SMB mount, NFS mount, etc. The physical hardware and 
OS at the other end of the connection is not known, or even knowable, in fact 
by your mac. If I mount a Mac shared as a Windows share, it'll have the little 
BSOD icon in the sidebar. It'll show in the finder as a 'paper-cutout-people' 
network share.

 
 Another thought was, how to make the imac see the powermac G4 MDD in the 
 other room as what it actually is? is it something in sharing on the MDD that 
 needs to be entered chosen etc.? so that the imac in the other room can 
 identify it correctly? hmm the mystery goes on.  

You cannot do that; networking doesn't work like that.

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Re: new icon for networked mac?

2011-05-31 Thread Jeffrey Engle

On May 31, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

 
 On May 31, 2011, at 3:45 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:
 
 
 On May 31, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
 
 Note that this will not achieve what the OP wants, which is that a 
 *specific* network-connected volume have a different icon in the sidebar. I 
 don't think that is possible at all.
 
 
 Ok, so this is one of those small challenges I like to call a rainy day 
 mind twister:-)
 
 I managed to find the icon, or at least where it resides:  
 System/Library/CoreServices/CoreTypes.bundle/Contents/Resources/
 
 And after looking in there, found that the system on my imac attaches one 
 of these icons to what it thinks the machine is? Problem is, it's using 
 the generic icon and several of the macs on that list use the generic 
 icon?.. hmm
 
 No, the icon represents *what kind* of connection is seen: Disk Image, 
 internal Disk, USB, FW, AFP mount, SMB mount, NFS mount, etc. The physical 
 hardware and OS at the other end of the connection is not known, or even 
 knowable, in fact by your mac. If I mount a Mac shared as a Windows share, 
 it'll have the little BSOD icon in the sidebar. It'll show in the finder as a 
 'paper-cutout-people' network share.
 
 
 Another thought was, how to make the imac see the powermac G4 MDD in the 
 other room as what it actually is? is it something in sharing on the MDD 
 that needs to be entered chosen etc.? so that the imac in the other room 
 can identify it correctly? hmm the mystery goes on.  
 
 You cannot do that; networking doesn't work like that.
 

Thanks so much for your input Bruce, I know that you must have more important 
things to do here's one that threw me though, I use Tiger by default on the 
mdd in the living room and just for kicks I booted from a leopard volume on 
that same mdd... and now the icon is fixed on the imac in the other room? it 
looks like it should look instead of the generic icon. Stupid question, but it 
looks to be simply something that was updated with the OS? anyway, I'll 
stop messing with ya now:-) Jeff

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Re: new icon for networked mac?

2011-05-31 Thread Bruce Johnson

On May 31, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

 You cannot do that; networking doesn't work like that.
 
 
 Thanks so much for your input Bruce, I know that you must have more important 
 things to do

Waiting for a copy of Oracle Linux to download, actually. I've got a gigabit 
internet connection to the internet, yet everything from Oracle takes centuries 
to download...the oh-so-glamourous life of an IT guy is about 80% Hurry up and 
wait!  

On the other hand today I discovered that you can print from an iPad easily to 
any printer on your network with this bit of kit 
http://netputing.com/airprintactivator/ which works well, until you try it 
over a VPN, at which point it works not at all, because Bonjour/Zeroconf don't 
work across VPN tunnels. :-(


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new icon for networked mac?

2011-05-30 Thread Jeffrey Engle
in the side bar of the finder window appears my media mac under the shared 
portion of that side bar... question is, how to change the icon for that media 
mac? can this be done? how?


Jeffrey Engle
Kamiah, Idaho 83536
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Re: new icon for networked mac?

2011-05-30 Thread Kris Tilford

On May 30, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

in the side bar of the finder window appears my media mac under  
the shared portion of that side bar... question is, how to change  
the icon for that media mac? can this be done? how?


Have you tried right-clicking (Ctl-click) on the icon in the shared  
side bar and when the contextual window opens select Get Info and  
then highlight the icon in the corner of the Get Info Window and paste  
in any other icon you prefer? I don't know this works for certain, but  
I think it should work?


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Re: new icon for networked mac?

2011-05-30 Thread Jeffrey Engle

On May 30, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:

 On May 30, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:
 
 in the side bar of the finder window appears my media mac under the 
 shared portion of that side bar... question is, how to change the icon for 
 that media mac? can this be done? how?
 
 Have you tried right-clicking (Ctl-click) on the icon in the shared side bar 
 and when the contextual window opens select Get Info and then highlight the 
 icon in the corner of the Get Info Window and paste in any other icon you 
 prefer? I don't know this works for certain, but I think it should work?
 

Ya, first thing I tried before going on the list.. funny thing is that there's 
nothing at all on the web about the topic either...

Jeffrey Engle
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Re: new icon for networked mac?

2011-05-30 Thread Kris Tilford

On May 30, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

Ya, first thing I tried before going on the list.. funny thing is  
that there's nothing at all on the web about the topic either...


So it doesn't work I guess. Perhaps enable root user login and try  
again as root?


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Re: new icon for networked mac?

2011-05-30 Thread Jim McGee


On May 30, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:


On May 30, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

Ya, first thing I tried before going on the list.. funny thing is  
that there's nothing at all on the web about the topic either...


So it doesn't work I guess. Perhaps enable root user login and try  
again as root?




Just tried changing icons on my MDD with 10.5.8 and it works. As I  
recall, back to the OS 8 days (possibly back further) that the same  
approach accomplished the changeout. Can't speak to the intel software


Jim (aka:mudbro)

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Re: new icon for networked mac?

2011-05-30 Thread Jeffrey Engle

On May 30, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:

 On May 30, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:
 
 Ya, first thing I tried before going on the list.. funny thing is that 
 there's nothing at all on the web about the topic either...
 
 So it doesn't work I guess. Perhaps enable root user login and try again as 
 root?
 

Ok, tried that (the root login) and when logged into the root, all the icons 
are changed to default network folders in this case. so, nope... won't work 
(so far anyway)

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Re: new icon for networked mac?

2011-05-30 Thread Doug McNutt
At 12:36 -0700 5/30/11, Jeffrey Engle wrote:
On May 30, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:

 On May 30, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:
 
 Ya, first thing I tried before going on the list.. funny thing is that 
 there's nothing at all on the web about the topic either...
 
 So it doesn't work I guess. Perhaps enable root user login and try again as 
 root?
 

Ok, tried that (the root login) and when logged into the root, all the icons 
are changed to default network folders in this case. so, nope... won't work 
(so far anyway)

Jeffrey Engle
Kamiah, Idaho 83536
macgu...@gmail.com



The OS-9, and before, way was to use Finder Get Info for some disk and select 
its icon by clicking. You can then copy the icon to the clipboard.

After that do another get info on the disk or an alias to it that you want to 
change, select the icon, and paste.

That sort of works on 10.3.9 and I'm pretty sure that it did not on 10.2.x.

It might fail with the huge icon files now available. OS 10.3.9 does not 
recognize disk icons prepared under 7.5 on my SE/30.
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