Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-18 Thread t...@io.com
On Dec 15, 6:45 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Dec 15, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: I know what a ZIF is. PowerLogix or someone else made an adaptor that allowed you to put two ZIF CPUs in it and then it plugged into the ZIF socket on the motherboard. You're

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-18 Thread t...@io.com
On Dec 17, 1:56 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Dec 17, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Da'Birdman wrote: First, I'm amazed at the dual G4 processor for a G3 beige or BW! I've never seen these before! Way cool! I wonder if any of them are still around. . . Yes. I too am amazed. I

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-18 Thread Ralph Green
Howdy, On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 07:46 -0800, t...@io.com wrote: ... I know what a ZIF is. PowerLogix or someone else made an adaptor that allowed you to put two ZIF CPUs in it and then it plugged into the ZIF socket on the motherboard. You're right. It's not PowerLogix, it's the XLR8

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-18 Thread Kris Tilford
On Dec 18, 2009, at 10:10 PM, Ralph Green wrote: Was there anything special about the CPUs? I searched eBay when this topic came up. There were no adapter cards, but someone had a CPU that he said was labeled as an XLR8 MPe CPU. He just had one CPU and an adapter card that took just one

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-17 Thread PM7500
Don't bother upgrading your blue and white or beige G3 anymore. It is much more cost efficient to upgrade to a G4 with an AGP slot. Not only will the CPU be faster than the stock one in your G3 machine but you'll have access to more powerful video cards and a faster system bus. G4's also run Tiger

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-17 Thread Da'Birdman
First, I'm amazed at the dual G4 processor for a G3 beige or BW! I've never seen these before! Way cool! I wonder if any of them are still around. . . Secondly, I only partially agree regarding the upgrading BW's. It's true that faster CPU's and graphics cards are available for these (for a

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-17 Thread Kris Tilford
On Dec 17, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Da'Birdman wrote: First, I'm amazed at the dual G4 processor for a G3 beige or BW! I've never seen these before! Way cool! I wonder if any of them are still around. . . Yes. I too am amazed. I actually own several XLR8 CPUs, and never saw one of these units.

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-16 Thread Da'Birdman
I've had experience with both the Sonnet the OWC CPU upgrades. They're both excellent - rock solid! I've never heard of a dual G4 400 - 500 in ZIF form before. I pretty certain these were only made for the AGP G4 machines. They're a daughter card rather than a ZIF, so they're not compatible

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-16 Thread Da'Birdman
Oops! I forgot to mention that as far as I know, the fastest G4 ZIF card is a G4 600 mhz processor from Daystar. They're not cheap, but not extravagant either. I've never used one, but was very tempted when I was running Blue Whites. Scott Birdwell DeFalco's Home Wine Beer Supplies Houston

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-16 Thread Bruce Godfrey
-for-Power-Mac-G3_W0QQitemZ270502376435QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCPUs?hash=item3efb32b3f3 Broos --- On Wed, 12/16/09, Da'Birdman sa...@defalcos.com wrote: From: Da'Birdman sa...@defalcos.com Subject: Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade? To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 8:21 AM

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-16 Thread Gus
do you have to have some sorta rom patch?? to allow the BW G3 to run one of these drop in cpu's? I have this BW and a Beige g3 that need that extra little pick me up and was thinking of a cpu upgrade, if inexpensive enough and compatible.. thanks Gus On Dec 15, 8:20 pm, dc dbc...@verizon.net

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-16 Thread Ralph Green
Howdy, That items is just a zif CPU. This is a noticeably faster CPU than the one in my BW. Can anyone comment on whether my current heatsink is likely to be good enough? I have the stock 350 MHz G3 at the moment. Good day, Ralph On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 11:08 -0800, Bruce Godfrey wrote: Here

1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-15 Thread Mike
Morning, Anyone had any experience with these? I'm pretty tempted. Things holding me back are the need to give them another $13 or something to be able to run 10.4.11, and that I could almost bag a complete G4 system for the money on fleabay. It sure would be nice to boost one of the smurfs

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-15 Thread John Carmonne
I think there is something missing in your post. What is one of these? John wtmm 25 kids all named Mac On Dec 15, 2009, at 5:14 AM, Mike wrote: Morning, Anyone had any experience with these? I'm pretty tempted. Things holding me back are the need to give them another $13 or something to

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-15 Thread Kasey Smith
I have been wanting too grab two myself, one for my smurftower and one for my Molar Mac. If you get one, lemme know how it runs :) On Dec 15, 2009, at 6:14 AM, Mike wrote: Morning, Anyone had any experience with these? I'm pretty tempted. Things holding me back are the need to give them

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-15 Thread John Carmonne
If it would run like my iMacs G3 700 MHz I think you'll be very happy with 10.4.11 on the machine. I would like to stuff something like this in a Cube to get it up to 1.8 dual. But those are too much $$. New to the list, What is a SmurfFlower, MolarMac?? John wtmm On Dec 15, 2009, at 6:03

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-15 Thread Jorjo :)
I'm new to the list too, but I'm sure that a smurf(smurftower?) is a Power Mac G3 Blue and White, and a MolarMac is an All in One Power Mac G3 (sold only for the education market). When you look for their profiles in LEM you can find their nicknames. Sorry about my english. Greetings from Chile.

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-15 Thread Len Gerstel
On Dec 15, 2009, at 9:36 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Morning, Anyone had any experience with these? I'm pretty tempted. Things holding me back are the need to give them another $13 or something to be able to run 10.4.11, and that I could almost bag a complete G4 system for the money on

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-15 Thread Kasey Smith
SmurfTower: PowerMac G3 BW, Molar Mac: PowerMac G3 All-In-One On Dec 15, 2009, at 7:36 AM, John Carmonne wrote: If it would run like my iMacs G3 700 MHz I think you'll be very happy with 10.4.11 on the machine. I would like to stuff something like this in a Cube to get it up to 1.8 dual.

RE: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-15 Thread John Ruschmeyer
Smurf= BW G3 (aka Yosemite) Flower= Flower-power iMac MolarMac= Beige G3 All-in-one (named for its shape) John -Original Message- From: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:g3-5-l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Carmonne Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:36 AM To:

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-15 Thread John Carmonne
I understand the nicknames I think, I have a Flower Pot, a Buick MDD, Cheese Grater, Wally, and in the market for a Toilet Seat 466:-) John wtmm On Dec 15, 2009, at 8:50 AM, John Ruschmeyer wrote: Smurf= BW G3 (aka Yosemite) Flower= Flower-power iMac MolarMac= Beige G3 All-in-one (named

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-15 Thread coolrays
FYI... read the fine print. The PowerLogix won't run OS X higher than 10.9.4. I have one in a 400MHz BW and works great. It runs at 1GHz under OS9 and 500MHz under 10.4.11. I have a 10.4.9 partition for doing specific things where it runs at 1GHz. Rick On Dec 15, 2009, at 10:57 AM, John

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-15 Thread Jason Brown
10.9.4? Your all set then. :P On Dec 15, 2009, at 11:15 AM, coolr...@comcast.net wrote: FYI... read the fine print. The PowerLogix won't run OS X higher than 10.9.4. I have one in a 400MHz BW and works great. It runs at 1GHz under OS9 and 500MHz under 10.4.11. I have a 10.4.9 partition

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-15 Thread Michael G.M.
If $ 13 is holding you back, relax and wait a while. Wait for the rain to accumulate. There's always that better deal next time anyway. You know that. Go back to ebay when the time is right. You'll get an awesome deal on a G4. The one that says you'll love me, I have great specs and I'm a great

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-15 Thread Mike
Yep, spotted the lack of 10.4.11 support. They do link to a daystar program that apparently fixes it for $12.95, care to volunteer to test it? Then you could dump the special partition On Dec 15, 2009, at 11:15 AM, coolr...@comcast.net wrote: FYI... read the fine print. The PowerLogix

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-15 Thread Mike
It wasn't the $13 so much as the other $110! I do have a MDD that is my main computer! On 15 Dec 2009, at 17:36, Michael G.M. michaelgm717...@gmail.com wrote: If $ 13 is holding you back, relax and wait a while. Wait for the rain to accumulate. There's always that better deal next time

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-15 Thread John Carmonne
On Dec 15, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Jason Brown wrote: 10.9.4? Your all set then. :P On Dec 15, 2009, at 11:15 AM, coolr...@comcast.net wrote: FYI... read the fine print. The PowerLogix won't run OS X higher than 10.9.4. I have one in a 400MHz BW and works great. It runs at 1GHz under OS9

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-15 Thread Kris Tilford
On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:20 PM, John Carmonne wrote: Does the Powerlogix upgrade run at different speeds depending on the OS? I believe the problem is the L2 cache enabler in different version of OS X. Powerlogix quit developing their CPU Director. As was mentioned before, the $13 XLR8

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-15 Thread Kris Tilford
On Dec 15, 2009, at 11:51 AM, Bruce Godfrey wrote: So, what is the fastest G4 zif upgrade that was made which could be used in a BW G3? It's 600 MHz. Seems like a 1GHz G4 zif would be the ultimate solution. I don't believe there is such a thing? I recently saw a dual 400-500MHz G4 zif

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-15 Thread Kasey Smith
On Dec 15, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: I don't believe there is such a thing. There are many single G4 ZIFs in the 400-600 MHz range, but no dual. They only dual G4 were not ZIF, but custom Apple CPU modules for later PowerMacs. There are dual-ZIF upgrades that enable you to add

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-15 Thread Kris Tilford
On Dec 15, 2009, at 4:31 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: There are dual-ZIF upgrades that enable you to add two CPUs in one socket, such as dual G4's. Dual G4's don't have ZIF CPUs or sockets. They are proprietary Apple CPU modules, not ZIF. The key concept that distinguishes a ZIF is that the CPU

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-15 Thread Kasey Smith
On Dec 15, 2009, at 5:15 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Dec 15, 2009, at 4:31 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: There are dual-ZIF upgrades that enable you to add two CPUs in one socket, such as dual G4's. Dual G4's don't have ZIF CPUs or sockets. They are proprietary Apple CPU modules, not ZIF. The

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-15 Thread Kris Tilford
On Dec 15, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: I know what a ZIF is. PowerLogix or someone else made an adaptor that allowed you to put two ZIF CPUs in it and then it plugged into the ZIF socket on the motherboard. You're right. It's not PowerLogix, it's the XLR8 MPe adapter card. I forgot

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-15 Thread Kasey Smith
On Dec 15, 2009, at 5:45 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: You're right. It's not PowerLogix, it's the XLR8 MPe adapter card. I forgot about that. They're really rare, but if you could find one and add two 600 MHz G4's you'd have not only the most powerful Beige, BW or Yikes; you'd also have the most

Re: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?

2009-12-15 Thread dc
On Dec 15, 12:51 pm, Bruce Godfrey bro...@verizon.net wrote: So, what is the fastest G4 zif upgrade that was made which could be used in a BW G3?  Seems like a 1GHz G4 zif would be the ultimate solution.  I recently saw a dual 400-500MHz G4 zif go for about $170 on E-Bay.  Was a dumb not to