Re: Anyone Else Buy Powerlogix 1.0Ghz G3 From Alan Cottrill?

2012-06-07 Thread Tom
A guy on Ebay pulled a scam like this on me---claimed several times to
have shipped me a Mac, after all kinds of excuses for delay, the
hospital one, bad weather, finally even provided a fake tracking
number. But with Ebay and PayPal you can file a complaint, which I
did. PayPal looked into the matter and gave me a full refund and
banned the scammer from Ebay.

Which is why I won't buy anything that costs more than a few dollars
from any swaplist. There's no supervision and no recourse if scammed.

However, if you paid this guy through PayPal, then see if they'll
investigate. Otherwise you may be screwed.

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Re: Anyone Else Buy Powerlogix 1.0Ghz G3 From Alan Cottrill?

2012-06-07 Thread t...@prismnet.com


On Jun 6, 3:56 am, Charles Lenington macso...@brightok.net wrote:

 I don't see mention of this problem on the swap feedback list.

Could you please point me at the Swap feedback list.  I remember
reading about it, and when this problem cropped up, I tried to find
it, and failed.

It's not a very useful feedback list, when it is so obscure that it is
difficult to find, but perhaps I just critically failed my search fu
that night.

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Re: Anyone Else Buy Powerlogix 1.0Ghz G3 From Alan Cottrill?

2012-06-07 Thread t...@prismnet.com


On Jun 7, 8:40 am, Tom tba...@nmia.com wrote:
 A guy on Ebay pulled a scam like this on me---claimed several times to
 have shipped me a Mac, after all kinds of excuses for delay, the
 hospital one, bad weather, finally even provided a fake tracking
 number. But with Ebay and PayPal you can file a complaint, which I
 did. PayPal looked into the matter and gave me a full refund and
 banned the scammer from Ebay.

 Which is why I won't buy anything that costs more than a few dollars
 from any swaplist. There's no supervision and no recourse if scammed.

 However, if you paid this guy through PayPal, then see if they'll
 investigate. Otherwise you may be screwed.

I've conducted hundreds, possibly thousands of transactions through
lists like the Swap list and comp.sys.mac.wanted back when the news
groups were the place to be -- so almost 20 years of trading now.

I have experienced a higher rate of transaction failure on Ebay than I
have in swap list trades.   And about the same rate of satisfactory
resolution.

I see no reason why anyone should confine their activities to Ebay.
Just be aware that occasionally a transaction will fail, and alert
your fellow enthusiasts if it does.

That was one of the great things about the news groups, back when they
were popular.  One could comment on others' offerings.  Discuss buyers
and sellers, etc, and there were no restrictions.   It was more like a
flea market.  So, when you saw someone trying to sell something for
$200 that you knew was available retail for $100, you could comment on
it.   Or, for example, when one shady outfit was selling refurbished
Quadra 605 logic boards at about the time all the PRAM batteries were
dying for $150 with trade-in, one could come by and mention than a $6
battery would solve the customer's problem much better than sending
those jokers $150 and the logic board, so that they could install a $6
battery.

Jeff Walther

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[Closing Thread] Re: Anyone Else Buy Powerlogix 1.0Ghz G3 From Alan Cottrill?

2012-06-07 Thread ftf

On Jun 7, 2012, at 7:18 AM, t...@prismnet.com wrote:


On Jun 6, 3:56 am, Charles Lenington macso...@brightok.net wrote:


I don't see mention of this problem on the swap feedback list.


Could you please point me at the Swap feedback list.  I remember
reading about it, and when this problem cropped up, I tried to find
it, and failed.



It was inappropriate for you to discuss here your problem from the  
Swap Group in the first place.  A quick Google search would have led  
you to the LEM Swap Feedback Group instantly.


This thread is hereby closed.  Please send further comments to me by  
direct private messages, but not onlist.


Fabian Fang
LEM G-Group Manager

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Re: Anyone Else Buy Powerlogix 1.0Ghz G3 From Alan Cottrill?

2012-06-06 Thread Charles Lenington

On 6/5/12 10:48 AM, t...@io.com wrote:

He placed a FS ad in the LEM Swap list on Apr. 25th, and has claimed
that he shipped it three different times, with various excuses
afterwards, except the latest--haven't heard from him in over a week,
after the latest claim of shipping.  Needless to say, I have not
received the item, so I'm wondering if he sold it to more than one
person.

The middle excuse was that he was in the hospital, so it is possible
that he's been re-hospitalized.   But, he said he had shipped it, not
that he would ship it, so if he wasn't lying, it should have arrived
over a week ago.

So, anyone else have any useful insight?

Thanks,

Jeff Walther


I don't see mention of this problem on the swap feedback list.

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Re: Anyone Else Buy Powerlogix 1.0Ghz G3 From Alan Cottrill?

2012-06-06 Thread Paul Stamsen
At 3:56  am -0500 6/6/12, Charles Lenington wrote eloquently:
On 6/5/12 10:48 AM, t...@io.com wrote:
 He placed a FS ad in the LEM Swap list on Apr. 25th, and has claimed
 that he shipped it three different times, with various excuses
 afterwards, except the latest--haven't heard from him in over a week,
 after the latest claim of shipping.  Needless to say, I have not
 received the item, so I'm wondering if he sold it to more than one
 person.

 The middle excuse was that he was in the hospital, so it is possible
 that he's been re-hospitalized.   But, he said he had shipped it, not
 that he would ship it, so if he wasn't lying, it should have arrived
 over a week ago.

 So, anyone else have any useful insight?

 Thanks,

 Jeff Walther

I don't see mention of this problem on the swap feedback list.


Which is where this thread shoulda been posted!

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Anyone Else Buy Powerlogix 1.0Ghz G3 From Alan Cottrill?

2012-06-05 Thread t...@io.com
He placed a FS ad in the LEM Swap list on Apr. 25th, and has claimed
that he shipped it three different times, with various excuses
afterwards, except the latest--haven't heard from him in over a week,
after the latest claim of shipping.  Needless to say, I have not
received the item, so I'm wondering if he sold it to more than one
person.

The middle excuse was that he was in the hospital, so it is possible
that he's been re-hospitalized.   But, he said he had shipped it, not
that he would ship it, so if he wasn't lying, it should have arrived
over a week ago.

So, anyone else have any useful insight?

Thanks,

Jeff Walther

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