Carbon Copy Cloner?
The discussion of Target Mode leads me to ask this question. Is it possible using CCC in Target mode to transfer data from one computer to another useing CCC's facility to transfer with no duplication? Thank you. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Carbon Copy Cloner?
At 2:42 PM -0500 3/9/2011, John Callahan wrote: The discussion of Target Mode leads me to ask this question. Is it possible using CCC in Target mode to transfer data from one computer to another useing CCC's facility to transfer with no duplication? yes. Just be careful. no dup implies destruction. Sometimes that's not a good plan. Better to tell it to do an incremental and keep replaced files. Then, when it's done, you can go perusing to make sure everything is right. And if it's not - you'll have a top-level folder containing all the originals of the replaced files. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Carbon Copy Cloner?
I asked my Target mode question because I had been using CCC to do what I think you want. Computer A is set up in Target Mode. Computer B is connected by Firewirw to Computer A and shows the Computer A startup files as an on-screen image which can be opened up. for date. I'm able to use CCC regardless of whether it's a file in Computer A or Computer B; I can't use CCC to target to the startup disk on Computer B, but if Computer B has two hard drives I can use CCC to clone Computer A stuff to one of the 2 computer B hard drives. On Wed, 9 Mar 2011, John Callahan wrote: The discussion of Target Mode leads me to ask this question. Is it possible using CCC in Target mode to transfer data from one computer to another useing CCC's facility to transfer with no duplication? Thank you. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Carbon Copy Cloner?
On Dec 31 2010, 6:16 pm, John Callahan jcalla...@stny.rr.com wrote: Hello Dan, Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth, Have followed your suggestions and have managed to save and not duplicate, but will need more exploration to fully implement all the features of CCC. For this rather broad objective, to fully implement, your review of the CCC Help file and FAQ on line can give you all you need to know in less than an hour. You can also download the file for casual reference. But, if you have no need to add complexity with things like networks or disk imaging, you will likely find that you need to do no more than what you have already done. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Carbon Copy Cloner?
On Dec 22, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Dan wrote: At 6:41 PM -0500 12/22/2010, John Callahan wrote: Is it possible to copy the entire contents of my Hard drive to my external drive (300GB cap.) and automatically replace the files I have Hello Dan, Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth, Have followed your suggestions and have managed to save and not duplicate, but will need more exploration to fully implement all the features of CCC. It's no BS when I say how fortunate we are to have people like you, and others like you, to help us in our travels through a alien world that to you is as familiar as your own backyard. I am elderly (84) and feel as my grandfather must have felt when confronted by the marvels of the early twentieth century, as I am when confronted by the marvels of the computer world. Your advice and forbearance are truly appreciated. Happy New Year, John Callahan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Carbon Copy Cloner?
I realize that this is a sort of elementary question but possibly someone will help me. Is it possible to copy the entire contents of my Hard drive to my external drive (300GB cap.) and automatically replace the files I have there, that would be duplicates but save the information that is new to my external hard drive? I have information saved on my external drive that is not stored on my computer hard drive that I would not want to lose, so erasing my external hard drive is not an option. As it is I am occupying external hard drive space by saving information I have already saved and adding to the problem that I already have. I hope I have phrased this problem so that it is somewhat understandable but I doubt it. Much obliged I'm not as young as I used to be But I'm not as old as I'm going to be! SO WATCH IT!!! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Carbon Copy Cloner?
At 6:41 PM -0500 12/22/2010, John Callahan wrote: Is it possible to copy the entire contents of my Hard drive to my external drive (300GB cap.) and automatically replace the files I have there, that would be duplicates but save the information that is new to my external hard drive? I have information saved on my external drive that is not stored on my computer hard drive that I would not want to lose, so erasing my external hard drive is not an option. Yes. Instead of the default backup everything, tell CCC to do an Incremental Backup AND check all three boxes below that option. Those three options taken together mean that you'll end up with a clean clone that contains everything from the source plus you'll have an archive folder, called _CCC, that will contain all the files it found on the destination that weren't on the source. Those files will be neatly placed in a folder tree that is the same as where they came from originally. Additionally, any other top level folders you had will be left alone. This is the way you should do incremental backups normally. Then, once in a while, go into the _CCC folder and prune it down, as you see fit. Apple's Time Machine kindof does the same thing, btw, except that it provides a pretty browser and automatically destructively prunes without your say-so. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Carbon Copy Cloner Question
Anne: I just reviewed the long thread you started back in April: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/t/c52cfe089645ced6?hl=en You made a good move downloading CCC. I like the Quick Start Guide at: http://www.bombich.com/software/docs/CCCHelp/CCCHelp.html which gives a rather elegant introduction and explanation of CCC. But this business is still a bit geeky, isn't it? On Jun 5, 6:54 am, Anne Keller-Smith earth...@ptd.net wrote: Do you think Jeff means incremental backup? Back up just what's changed? Jeff is not addressing the pros and cons of incremental (or file level) backup on the one hand and block level backup on the other hand. He is giving us his own view of what a backup is. I am considering buying a bootable drive to do this, but again don't want to backup everything continually. I think CCC does this. Continually, meaning daily? Yes, CCC can do this, but you can control it not to. To keep things simpler for yourself, I think you should let CCC do it. This means changing your idea of having two kinds of backup, the one being the whole system once in a great moon and the other being for your User folder every day. You just use one kind of backup for both purposes. So, what is your implementation plan? You will have one bootable drive and you already have two nonbootable drives. For safekeeping in a safe box offsite, you could clone to a nonbootable drive. That means you would have a complete copy where you could retrieve files completely or selectively to recover in case your house burns down. With your bootable drive, you could clone at the file level (incremental), use settings to Delete files that don't exist on the source and Archive modified and deleted items. By setting up this way, your first clone job will copy all files (with a few geeky exceptions by default) to your external, bootable drive. Then your second clone job will, by default in CCC documentation words, copy the selected items to your target drive, copying only the items that have changed and leaving in place any files on the target that do not exist on the source. But the Delete setting will override the second half of that default description, meaning that CCC will NOT leave in place any files on the target that do not exist on the source. The Archive setting then takes those deleted files and puts them into a separate time-stamped folder at the root level of your backup volume. Should you ever need to recover a long-ago deleted file, or simply the version of a file before last week's major revision, simply navigate to the root level of your backup volume and find the folder named with the date that the backup occurred. The last two settings merely function like Apple's Time Machine trick. So, with this setup, if you clone/backup at the end of a day's work, you have a bootable copy of your internal hard drive which you can use immediately the next day upon the internal drive's failure, suffering only the loss of the last few hours of work. And the files you delete, and previous versions, are recoverable at your option. The daily clone process does not copy the entire internal drive, not even the entire User folder, but only what has changed during the past day. However, this also means that your external drive will eventually fill up with those deleted file records. You can selectively manage that on occasion by putting the oldest ones in the trash and emptying. You might want to have a bootable drive capacity of two or three times your internal drive holdings. BTW, I am thinking to partition a drive doesn't make sense for two backups of different kinds because I like to keep two backups, one on site and one off site in a safe box. Partitioning is not a bad idea, if you want to clone more than one computer. Also, this can give you a separate space for any other miscellaneous storage requirement. Hope this helps, Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Carbon Copy Cloner Question
Do you think Jeff means incremental backup? Back up just what's changed? I am considering buying a bootable drive to do this, but again don't want to backup everything continually. I think CCC does this. However, recently trying to archive and install my QS, as many of you know, I did a nuke and pave by accident. Bit of a PITA moving the backups from the remote drive, but not too bad. These were just drag them on backups for the most part. BTW, I am thinking to partition a drive doesn't make sense for two backups of different kinds because I like to keep two backups, one on site and one off site in a safe box. Just a small think. On Jun 1, 2009, at 10:27 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jun 1, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Jeff Smith wrote: Meaning I dont want to continually back up any user files, ?? This pretty much voids the use of a backup. The entire purpose of backups are to preserve the files that don't come on the CD's and OS Disks...which are your user files. This is the stuff that's difficult or impossible to replace...if you need bootable functionality, you've got that with your OS Disc. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD Anne Keller Smith Down to Earth Web Design Beautiful Web Sites that Work http://www.downtoearthweb.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Carbon Copy Cloner Question
Not sure if CCC does incremental backup:- SuperDuper certainly does. Ted Anne Keller-Smith wrote: Do you think Jeff means incremental backup? Back up just what's changed? I am considering buying a bootable drive to do this, but again don't want to backup everything continually. I think CCC does this. However, recently trying to archive and install my QS, as many of you know, I did a nuke and pave by accident. Bit of a PITA moving the backups from the remote drive, but not too bad. These were just drag them on backups for the most part. BTW, I am thinking to partition a drive doesn't make sense for two backups of different kinds because I like to keep two backups, one on site and one off site in a safe box. Just a small think. On Jun 1, 2009, at 10:27 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jun 1, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Jeff Smith wrote: Meaning I dont want to continually back up any user files, ?? This pretty much voids the use of a backup. The entire purpose of backups are to preserve the files that don't come on the CD's and OS Disks...which are your user files. This is the stuff that's difficult or impossible to replace...if you need bootable functionality, you've got that with your OS Disc. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD Anne Keller Smith Down to Earth Web Design Beautiful Web Sites that Work http://www.downtoearthweb.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Carbon Copy Cloner Question
Hello, I use CCC to do a backup of my G4. I ran CCC when I first started the comp prior to doing anything else such as installing progs/internet/etc. Going foward I would like to only backup/clone those same directories/files. Meaning I dont want to continually back up any user files, apps (if possible), etc as this would take up to much space and I don't need these files in my backup. Given this what directories should I include in CCC to backup to create a bootable backup and still have functionality if I need to boot to it. Also what size of drive/partition would I need for this? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Carbon Copy Cloner Question
On Jun 1, 2009, at 7:27 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Meaning I dont want to continually back up any user files, ?? This pretty much voids the use of a backup. The entire purpose of backups are to preserve the files that don't come on the CD's and OS Disks...which are your user files. This is the stuff that's difficult or impossible to replace...if you need bootable functionality, you've got that with your OS Disc. A strategy which I have found to be useful is a 1 TB drive partitioned into two identical halves. The lowest is the primary. The highest is the alternate. At the end of each week, the lowest is cloned to the highest by automatically selecting the changed files, a CCC option. The initial time, only, this results in a complete copy. GUID's hidden partition, which is actually below the lowest partition, and where the EFI emulation stuff is kept on a Hackintosh, is not copied. This hidden partition is never used by Apple, so this backup strategy works for an Apple running Leo as well as a Hackintosh running Leo. http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
