Re: Fed up with Google changes on browsers in Tiger

[Charles Lenington]

On 11/16/11 1:39 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:

On Nov 16, 2011, at 12:57 AM, a1 wrote:


I really need an email program I can suck my
gmail out of Google without bothering anymore with their webmail.


Use OS X Mail.app. There are several tutorials for setting up Gmail on
Mail.app:











Don't feel bad, I have an email account (new T-bird install on G5) that 
requires use of goggle mail and of course google refuses to recognize 
the password. (Which worked on HQ-a group earlier.)


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Re: Fed up with Google changes on browsers in Tiger

[Applemac G3,G5]

Unnecessary tweaking of browsers is one of the more aggravating ways
that online content providers have of making old computers obsolete.
I'm running a Powermac G5 with 10.5.8 and really have no issues at
this point, but keep in mind that the G5 line of towers logged an
early reliability record which was rather poor for Apple computers.
Not sure if that has improved with time, I'm happy with mine thus
far.  Why not just get rid of Google?

On Nov 16, 1:57 am, a1  wrote:
> I use Panther and Tiger on my G4 and other macs, usually switching
> between Omniweb, Camino and sometimes Opera. I gave up on Firefox and
> 10.4 Fox simply because I dont want to do jumping jacks simply in
> order to watch youtube or facebook videos. I am utterly fed up with
> what Google did to Reader, and now, gchat within gmail and even
> opening gmail messages has gotten flaky, unreliable. I have always
> used webmail and browser apps but I have simply had enough. So, some
> questions, hardware and software.
>
> Hardware: I am either going to radically upgrade the G4 or buy one of
> the G5's I see flooding the market here. Am I really going to have
> great relief upgrading to Leopard on a G5 or is it only a matter of
> time before Google starts messing with the compatibility of browsers
> for Leopard, too? Between Firefox, Google and Apple "sunsetting" their
> products prematurely, simultaneously really, a PPC user seemingly has
> nowhere to turn. Incidentally, would an older IDE hard drive simply
> plug in and work in a G5 for migration purposes?
>
> Software: I really, really need an RSS reader that will remain
> reliable with Tiger. And, I really need an email program I can suck my
> gmail out of Google without bothering anymore with their webmail. I
> tried Thunderbird for a while but disliked the user interface,
> specifically an inability to make the text in panes larger. I have
> never gotten a version of Apple Mail to work with gmail. I want to
> leave browsing to a minimum as at this juncture none of the browsers
> really are pleasant.
>
> My internet days go back to vax machines and Elm mail, running Usenet
> off a shell, and text-only telnet. All this modeming into an ISP using
> my color classic. I was much happier then! I have never been so
> annoyed at online experience as these days. Do people use Terminal for
> email or any way around the suffocation of the upgrade curve?

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Re: Fed up with Google changes on browsers in Tiger

[Valter Prahlad]

Il giorno 16-11-2011 7:57, a1 ha scritto:

> Hardware: I am either going to radically upgrade the G4 or buy one of
> the G5's I see flooding the market here.
Dollar-wise, I suggest you going to the G5.
I did (from a G4 1.4GHz to a G5 2.7 DP), and I'm happy. Speed more than
doubled. :-)

> Am I really going to have great relief upgrading to Leopard on a G5
Some people dislike Leopard, and still prefer Tiger. Do some research before
upgrade.
Besides, Leopard dropped Classic.

> or is it only a matter of
> time before Google starts messing with the compatibility of browsers
> for Leopard, too?
Obviously, it is. ;-)

Everything in the Universe is decaying... and computers are the fastest.

> Incidentally, would an older IDE hard drive simply
> plug in and work in a G5 for migration purposes?
Nope.
G5s use SATA drives, not IDE.

Simpler way to migrate - IMHO - is thru Firewire Target disk mode, using
Carbon Copy Cloner (or similar).

> And, I really need an email program I can suck my
> gmail out of Google without bothering anymore with their webmail.
I'm still using Outlook Express 5.0.6 (thru Classic).
Thinking about evolving, I tried several mail client, but liked none.
Microsoft Entourage was the one I liked more, thou.

> My internet days go back to vax machines and Elm mail, running Usenet
> off a shell, and text-only telnet. [...]
> I was much happier then!
... maybe because you were young? ;-)

> I have never been so
> annoyed at online experience as these days.
Jokes apart, I agree the constant "evolution" in online technologies and
gizmos is mostly stressing. But I think it's just unavoidable.

I presume our parents felt the same way, when we were young and liked
rock'n'roll. :-D

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Re: Fed up with Google changes on browsers in Tiger

[Bruce Johnson]

On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:57 PM, a1 wrote:

>  Do people use Terminal for
> email or any way around the suffocation of the upgrade curve?

pine works with OS X and any imap provider, which gmail is...

 as does it's successor alpine 
 There are OS X binaries of all UW 
products there, although you don't need to install pico, it's already present.

I know lots of folks who like to use pine.


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Re: Fed up with Google changes on browsers in Tiger

[Bruce Johnson]

On Nov 16, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote:

>>> 
>>> I have
>>> never gotten a version of Apple Mail to work with gmail.
> 
> 
> What do you mean?  I use Apple Mail to work with gMail and it works very 
> good.  What is it doing or not doing?

Me as well; I've used Gmail with OS X since 10.2 with never an issue.

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Re: Fed up with Google changes on browsers in Tiger

[Baldassare Guzzo]

I have
never gotten a version of Apple Mail to work with gmail.



What do you mean?  I use Apple Mail to work with gMail and it works  
very good.  What is it doing or not doing?


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Re: Fed up with Google changes on browsers in Tiger

[Jesse]

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On Nov 16, 2011, at 12:57 AM, a1  wrote:

> I use Panther and Tiger on my G4 and other macs, usually switching
> between Omniweb, Camino and sometimes Opera. I gave up on Firefox and
> 10.4 Fox simply because I dont want to do jumping jacks simply in
> order to watch youtube or facebook videos. I am utterly fed up with
> what Google did to Reader, and now, gchat within gmail and even
> opening gmail messages has gotten flaky, unreliable. I have always
> used webmail and browser apps but I have simply had enough. So, some
> questions, hardware and software.
> 
> Hardware: I am either going to radically upgrade the G4 or buy one of
> the G5's I see flooding the market here. Am I really going to have
> great relief upgrading to Leopard on a G5 or is it only a matter of
> time before Google starts messing with the compatibility of browsers
> for Leopard, too? Between Firefox, Google and Apple "sunsetting" their
> products prematurely, simultaneously really, a PPC user seemingly has
> nowhere to turn. Incidentally, would an older IDE hard drive simply
> plug in and work in a G5 for migration purposes?
> 
> Software: I really, really need an RSS reader that will remain
> reliable with Tiger. And, I really need an email program I can suck my
> gmail out of Google without bothering anymore with their webmail. I
> tried Thunderbird for a while but disliked the user interface,
> specifically an inability to make the text in panes larger.


> I have
> never gotten a version of Apple Mail to work with gmail.

I have. It works pretty good actually, better than hotmail and apples mail


> I want to
> leave browsing to a minimum as at this juncture none of the browsers
> really are pleasant.
> 
> My internet days go back to vax machines and Elm mail, running Usenet
> off a shell, and text-only telnet. All this modeming into an ISP using
> my color classic. I was much happier then! I have never been so
> annoyed at online experience as these days. Do people use Terminal for
> email or any way around the suffocation of the upgrade curve?
> 
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Re: Fed up with Google changes on browsers in Tiger

[Geke]

I’m using Apple Mail with gmail without problems since a long time
already.

I’m also using browser mail for gmail (in Camino, Firefox on a G4, and
Ten4Fox on a G3 ibook) but I have set the account to "basic html".
Some time ago, there was some havoc with Google posting a message to
upgrade my browser, and me being unable to go back to basic html as
default, but that phase has passed.

Maybe you’d be happier with an (older) intel Mac mini, instead of a
G5? At least as a second station, for watching videos and stuff?

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Re: Fed up with Google changes on browsers in Tiger

[Tina K.]

On 2011/11/15 23:57, a1 so eloquently wrote:

I am utterly fed up with
what Google did to Reader,
(snip)
Software: I really, really need an RSS reader that will remain
reliable with Tiger.


I use Google Reader to Synch NetNewsWire MP & PB and avoid the changes Google made 
to Reader, I don't even know what changed since I'm not using it on a browser. I 
would suggest that route for you but I think you'll need 10.5 Leopard to run a 
version of NetNewsWire that supports Reader.


Other RSS apps have talked about adding Reader synch but I don't know if any of 
them ever actually did. But it might be worth browsing macupdate.com to see the 
offerings.



Tina

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Re: Fed up with Google changes on browsers in Tiger

[Kris Tilford]

On Nov 16, 2011, at 12:57 AM, a1 wrote:


I really need an email program I can suck my
gmail out of Google without bothering anymore with their webmail.


Use OS X Mail.app. There are several tutorials for setting up Gmail on  
Mail.app:










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Fed up with Google changes on browsers in Tiger

[a1]

I use Panther and Tiger on my G4 and other macs, usually switching
between Omniweb, Camino and sometimes Opera. I gave up on Firefox and
10.4 Fox simply because I dont want to do jumping jacks simply in
order to watch youtube or facebook videos. I am utterly fed up with
what Google did to Reader, and now, gchat within gmail and even
opening gmail messages has gotten flaky, unreliable. I have always
used webmail and browser apps but I have simply had enough. So, some
questions, hardware and software.

Hardware: I am either going to radically upgrade the G4 or buy one of
the G5's I see flooding the market here. Am I really going to have
great relief upgrading to Leopard on a G5 or is it only a matter of
time before Google starts messing with the compatibility of browsers
for Leopard, too? Between Firefox, Google and Apple "sunsetting" their
products prematurely, simultaneously really, a PPC user seemingly has
nowhere to turn. Incidentally, would an older IDE hard drive simply
plug in and work in a G5 for migration purposes?

Software: I really, really need an RSS reader that will remain
reliable with Tiger. And, I really need an email program I can suck my
gmail out of Google without bothering anymore with their webmail. I
tried Thunderbird for a while but disliked the user interface,
specifically an inability to make the text in panes larger. I have
never gotten a version of Apple Mail to work with gmail. I want to
leave browsing to a minimum as at this juncture none of the browsers
really are pleasant.

My internet days go back to vax machines and Elm mail, running Usenet
off a shell, and text-only telnet. All this modeming into an ISP using
my color classic. I was much happier then! I have never been so
annoyed at online experience as these days. Do people use Terminal for
email or any way around the suffocation of the upgrade curve?

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