Re: File Managent Woes

2008-10-19 Thread aussieshepsrock

Hi All,
   Original Poster Here - I wanted to update folks a little on the
progress of Sorting out my 'File Management Woes'. I've mostly
finished my imports into Adobe Lightroom and it adds up to about 6,700
images :-). Whew. I've also weeded out most of my 'File Dupes' in the
process. Things are much more spacious on my HD's to the tune of about
30% on the External and 50% available on the Internal one.
Thanks All

Richard

On Oct 15, 4:33 pm, aussieshepsrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks to Everyone!
 You're input is very welcome and I'm sincerely grateful :-).
 I wanted to update what I've done since putting up my original
 posting.

 My Original Challenges are Prolific File Duplicates and Setting Up A
 Filing System (Mainly to ride herd on my photos).

 Equipment recap:
 G4 Mini/1g/1.25mhz/40g • 320gig My Book External / 40g  250g
 partitions • 120gig External (Offline Backup of the Mini ) • External
 DVD Burner

 The first 'baseline' decision was to commit to Adobe Lightroom.

 My second decision was to 'Brute Force' my way through finding
 'Duplicates'. I have an inordinate amount of time to fill up anyway.

 The third was to use the 40gig partition exclusively for Photo Files.

 I did a fresh clone of the internal drive, copied -essentially- all
 non-application  non-system files to the 250gig partition, and punted
 large swaths of those files to the trash. I freed up almost half the
 drive! :-)

 I copied the 40gig partition's contents to the 250 - After moving my
 beloved 'Busters 'Bones -n- 'CSI's to Opticals (where they actually
 ought to have been).

 I am now in the process of comparing Folders on the 250 using the Find
 command (set to search only the 250) and trashing the dupes I find (I
 compare file counts and total folder megabytes to make sure things
 match). I've tossed about 40gig's of dupes at this point.

 Once I've narrowed my Dupes via this method, I'll turn to Lightroom to
 import what's left and weed out the duplicate image files that way. I
 have lightroom set to 'copy' the originals to organized folders on my
 40gig partition. I'll then use that program to weed out the crappy
 images and screw-ups, bring an order to the library by making
 collections and sub collections of images, Archive the keepers, then
 clear out space on the 250.

 I have a 40gig drive floating around I can use to backup the 40gig
 partition of the 320 My Book External onto. SuperDuper to the
 rescue :-).

 OH! I do know the difference between an archive and backup - I was
 only keeping 'partial backups' because I didn't know for sure what was
 archived or even what pictures were on the backups with total
 certainty. My goal is to have some certainty in my archiving and
 organization to 'KNOW' my next 'Clone' isn't going to write over a one
 of a kind file or photo.

 Anyway, I have hacked together a 'start' to my organizational process.
 I don't have a 'global' plan for archiving and organization set yet,
 but I'm thinking hard on it.

 Richard

 On Oct 14, 8:16 pm, Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  On Oct 14, 2008, at 1:49 PM, Dan wrote:

   Every year or two I poke aruond at file managers, thinking I really
   should use one.  And each time I talk myself out of it.  They just
   don't do what I need/want.  And it's not just images.  I have the
   same problem with my music.  I don't trust iTunes one bit.

  Whereas for the 3,456 folders named 'Stuff' organization-impaired  
  among us, iTunes and the like are godsends. They keep stuff findable  
  with out all the hassle of doing it myself.

  --
  Bruce Johnson
  University of Arizona
  College of Pharmacy
  Information Technology Group

  Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a 
group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on 
Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en
Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: File Managent Woes

2008-10-15 Thread aussieshepsrock

Thanks to Everyone!
You're input is very welcome and I'm sincerely grateful :-).
I wanted to update what I've done since putting up my original
posting.

My Original Challenges are Prolific File Duplicates and Setting Up A
Filing System (Mainly to ride herd on my photos).

Equipment recap:
G4 Mini/1g/1.25mhz/40g • 320gig My Book External / 40g  250g
partitions • 120gig External (Offline Backup of the Mini ) • External
DVD Burner

The first 'baseline' decision was to commit to Adobe Lightroom.

My second decision was to 'Brute Force' my way through finding
'Duplicates'. I have an inordinate amount of time to fill up anyway.

The third was to use the 40gig partition exclusively for Photo Files.


I did a fresh clone of the internal drive, copied -essentially- all
non-application  non-system files to the 250gig partition, and punted
large swaths of those files to the trash. I freed up almost half the
drive! :-)

I copied the 40gig partition's contents to the 250 - After moving my
beloved 'Busters 'Bones -n- 'CSI's to Opticals (where they actually
ought to have been).

I am now in the process of comparing Folders on the 250 using the Find
command (set to search only the 250) and trashing the dupes I find (I
compare file counts and total folder megabytes to make sure things
match). I've tossed about 40gig's of dupes at this point.

Once I've narrowed my Dupes via this method, I'll turn to Lightroom to
import what's left and weed out the duplicate image files that way. I
have lightroom set to 'copy' the originals to organized folders on my
40gig partition. I'll then use that program to weed out the crappy
images and screw-ups, bring an order to the library by making
collections and sub collections of images, Archive the keepers, then
clear out space on the 250.

I have a 40gig drive floating around I can use to backup the 40gig
partition of the 320 My Book External onto. SuperDuper to the
rescue :-).

OH! I do know the difference between an archive and backup - I was
only keeping 'partial backups' because I didn't know for sure what was
archived or even what pictures were on the backups with total
certainty. My goal is to have some certainty in my archiving and
organization to 'KNOW' my next 'Clone' isn't going to write over a one
of a kind file or photo.

Anyway, I have hacked together a 'start' to my organizational process.
I don't have a 'global' plan for archiving and organization set yet,
but I'm thinking hard on it.

Richard



On Oct 14, 8:16 pm, Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 On Oct 14, 2008, at 1:49 PM, Dan wrote:

  Every year or two I poke aruond at file managers, thinking I really
  should use one.  And each time I talk myself out of it.  They just
  don't do what I need/want.  And it's not just images.  I have the
  same problem with my music.  I don't trust iTunes one bit.

 Whereas for the 3,456 folders named 'Stuff' organization-impaired  
 among us, iTunes and the like are godsends. They keep stuff findable  
 with out all the hassle of doing it myself.

 --
 Bruce Johnson
 University of Arizona
 College of Pharmacy
 Information Technology Group

 Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a 
group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on 
Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en
Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: File Managent Woes

2008-10-14 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Oct 14, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Dan wrote:


 At 11:54 AM -0700 10/14/2008, Bruce Johnson wrote:
 On Oct 14, 2008, at 11:23 AM, Dan wrote:
 Personally, I've never been satisfied with any apps that manage
 images file for me.  So, for me, the answer is... a bit  
 primitive:  I
 use Finder.

 yeah there's a serious gap between Dan's 'Use the finder' way and the
 pro image databases that big graphics houses use.

 I would hope so.  Perhaps a magnitude or three in the size of their
 database...

I was less than clear, should have said there's a serious *unfilled*  
gap between you and the pro databases.


-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs



--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a 
group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on 
Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en
Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: File Managent Woes

2008-10-14 Thread Dan

At 12:55 PM -0700 10/14/2008, Bruce Johnson wrote:
I was less than clear, should have said there's a serious *unfilled*
gap between you and the pro databases.

I LEAD THE GAP!  woohoo!

Every year or two I poke aruond at file managers, thinking I really 
should use one.  And each time I talk myself out of it.  They just 
don't do what I need/want.  And it's not just images.  I have the 
same problem with my music.  I don't trust iTunes one bit.

- Dan.
-- 
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a 
group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on 
Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en
Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



File Managent Woes

2008-10-13 Thread aussieshepsrock

Hello All,
   I have a pair of file management challenges and they are feeding
upon one another. I have a G4 Mini 1g/40g/1.25ghz running 10.4.11 with
a 320gig External for File Storage. In addition I have a 120gig
external drive that's used for Dup'ing the Mini's Drive on one half
and my Father's iBook on the other. The 120gig is kept strictly
disconnected from everything including power sources for data safety.
My Problems:
a) I have prolific quantities of Image files that semi-regularly come
into my computer due to my Photographic Endeavors (It's a hobby, but
it isn't - if that makes sense).
b) While I live within Filing Systems with utter joy, setting them up
is outside my native skill set and I have global structure that the
import or disposition of my image files goes into that rides herd on
the collection as a whole. ie:the images go to optical, but not within
a structure
c) I fear cloning over the Backup's I make using SuperDuper for fear
of losing files I have no memory of and now sections from previous
backups are clogging up my drives.

My Challenge is to seperate the wheat from the chaff and harvest my
disk space back to me so I have some flexibility to generate a filing
system.

Can someone make any reccomendations on Dupe Finding Software? I've
heard it exists.
and
Can Someone point me to some resources to guide my setting up a
structure for my image files?

Maybe my questions are to difuse, but I am locked into the hardware I
have with no forseeable ability to buy a faster cpu or any drives.
What I've got is what I've got. period. I've used Adobe Lightroom to
process specific shoots quite successfully, but within the constraints
of my Hardware, I don't think I can implement it successfully to
manage my entire photo collection. Not enough CPU to make it work, I
think.

I have no faith that iPhoto will work for me because all of my
experiences with it have been negative. I have no sense of confidence
as to where my files are and the editing system is screamingly
frustrating to a long time photoshop user. I 'park' images in iPhoto
to make them accessible to 'play' with iDVD, but both acts are pretty
inconsequential because rendering even slideshow dvd's is truly a
horrendous timeconsuming endeavor with a G4.

Thanks All for muddling through this long post.

Feel Free to Email Me As well.

Richard

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a 
group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on 
Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en
Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---