Re: File transfer not happening

2010-03-28 Thread Nestamicky

On 3/27/10 11:58 AM, Dan wrote:


Finder chokes on complicated tasks.  Use CCC or ditto instead.

Dan, how is this done? Especially, using ditto?

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Re: File transfer not happening

2010-03-28 Thread Dan

At 7:24 AM -0600 3/28/2010, Nestamicky wrote:

On 3/27/10 11:58 AM, Dan wrote:

Finder chokes on complicated tasks.  Use CCC or ditto instead.


Dan, how is this done? Especially, using ditto?


In CCC, set it to incremental backup, then unselect the whole source 
drive, then select the specific directory trees therein you want 
copied.


Ditto... is the tool that older vers of CCC used (current vers uses 
rsync).  It does really well duplicating directory trees, creating 
subfolders, etc.  The command man ditto will give you details, and 
there are a whole bunch of examples at the end.  It's simplest form 
is all you need...   ditto sourcedirectory destinationdirectory 
hum.  Perhaps add -v to make it a bit verbose.


FWIW, ditto seems to do better than cp when moving large directories.

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Re: File transfer not happening

2010-03-28 Thread Nestamicky

On 3/28/10 9:22 AM, John Carmonne wrote:

I've tried to do this over the Ethernet network here and had no luck, It only 
seems to work if the drives are physically connected to the same machine. Am I 
missing something?
Thanks for confirming this. I was just about to try on the wireless 
network. I know now not to bother. Would have been useful though.


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Re: File transfer not happening

2010-03-28 Thread John Carmonne

On Mar 28, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Nestamicky wrote:

 On 3/28/10 9:22 AM, John Carmonne wrote:
 I've tried to do this over the Ethernet network here and had no luck, It 
 only seems to work if the drives are physically connected to the same 
 machine. Am I missing something?
 Thanks for confirming this. I was just about to try on the wireless network. 
 I know now not to bother. Would have been useful though.
 
I've never tried that maybe you can make it work it can't hurt anything,This Is 
how we learn these things. just cuase I can't do it OH well.:-)

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
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File transfer not happening

2010-03-27 Thread John Carmonne
Hi All

I'm trying to transfer DVD images fro a 1TB drive to a new 2TB drive the size 
of the transfer is about 560 GB i've only been able to move about 235 GB and a 
lot of the other files choke with a finder error, I'm sure the files are OK 
because they play??
John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
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Re: File transfer not happening

2010-03-27 Thread Austin Leeds
  Are you moving them in one swift stroke or one by one? I find
sometimes the otherwise nonsensical process of moving things one by
one, especially in large transfers, keeps things stable and running.
  Is this on your G5 or G4 (I saw a G4 in those pictures of your G5
you sent me)? Or perhaps a different Mac altogether? Are you moving
from one Mac to another, or using both drives on the same Mac?

On Mar 27, 9:32 am, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote:
 Hi All

 I'm trying to transfer DVD images fro a 1TB drive to a new 2TB drive the size 
 of the transfer is about 560 GB i've only been able to move about 235 GB and 
 a lot of the other files choke with a finder error, I'm sure the files are OK 
 because they play??
 John Carmonne
 Yorba Linda USA
 Sent from my MBP

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Re: File transfer not happening

2010-03-27 Thread slvrmoontiger
John,

Have you run diagnostic testing on both drives? Also what type of connections 
are both drives running (IDE, SATA, USB1, USB2, Firewire, etc). What are the 
specs on your Mac?

Albert
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Subject: File transfer not happening

Hi All

I'm trying to transfer DVD images fro a 1TB drive to a new 2TB drive the size 
of the transfer is about 560 GB i've only been able to move about 235 GB and a 
lot of the other files choke with a finder error, I'm sure the files are OK 
because they play??
John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
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Re: File transfer not happening

2010-03-27 Thread John Carmonne

On Mar 27, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Austin Leeds wrote:

 Are you moving them in one swift stroke or one by one? I find
 sometimes the otherwise nonsensical process of moving things one by
 one, especially in large transfers, keeps things stable and running.
 Is this on your G5 or G4 (I saw a G4 in those pictures of your G5
 you sent me)? Or perhaps a different Mac altogether? Are you moving
 from one Mac to another, or using both drives on the same Mac?



I've done both one by one and batches same deal. The machine is Stanley the 
G5 Dual 2.7 the only thing may be is I just installed a Seritek 1v4 card and a 
2TB  Hitachi drive.

So far I've moved 230GB from an internal Seagate and the same amount from an 
internal WD at one shot. The drive I'm moving this batch from is an external 
1TB Hitachi drive via USB. At first I tried via Eternet and so I thought maybe 
that was the issue so I moved it to USB (cheapo drive no FW) and still no cigar.

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
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Re: File transfer not happening

2010-03-27 Thread John Carmonne

On Mar 27, 2010, at 7:44 AM, slvrmoonti...@yahoo.com wrote:

 John,
 
 Have you run diagnostic testing on both drives? Also what type of connections 
 are both drives running (IDE, SATA, USB1, USB2, Firewire, etc). What are the 
 specs on your Mac?


The machine is a G5 PM Dual 2.7 it has SATA drives. The drive I'm transferring 
from is a 1TB external SimpleTech USB. I've run DiskUtility and DiskWarrior  
both claimed to fix problems but I guess not the one I'm having.

John Carmonne
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Re: File transfer not happening

2010-03-27 Thread Dan

At 7:32 AM -0700 3/27/2010, John Carmonne wrote:
I'm trying to transfer DVD images fro a 1TB drive to a new 2TB drive 
the size of the transfer is about 560 GB i've only been able to move 
about 235 GB and a lot of the other files choke with a finder error, 
I'm sure the files are OK because they play??


Finder chokes on complicated tasks.  Use CCC or ditto instead.

Check your system and console logs - could be that Finder is choking 
because of some sort of hard error on the drive.


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Re: File transfer not happening

2010-03-27 Thread John Carmonne

On Mar 27, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Dan wrote:

 At 7:32 AM -0700 3/27/2010, John Carmonne wrote:
 I'm trying to transfer DVD images fro a 1TB drive to a new 2TB drive the 
 size of the transfer is about 560 GB i've only been able to move about 235 
 GB and a lot of the other files choke with a finder error, I'm sure the 
 files are OK because they play??
 
 Finder chokes on complicated tasks.  Use CCC or ditto instead.
 
 Check your system and console logs - could be that Finder is choking because 
 of some sort of hard error on the drive.
 
 - Dan.


I really wish I knew what to look for in the Console and System logs. Can you 
give me a hint? :-) I guess everything can be resolved here but I have no idea 
what I'm looking for. If I kinda got going on it and could see results then 
that would be my next project. As though I can handle any more. LOL

John Carmonne
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Re: File transfer not happening

2010-03-27 Thread Dan

At 11:12 AM -0700 3/27/2010, John Carmonne wrote:

On Mar 27, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Dan wrote:
  At 7:32 AM -0700 3/27/2010, John Carmonne wrote:
 I'm trying to transfer DVD images fro a 1TB drive to a new 2TB 
drive the size of the transfer is about 560 GB i've only been able 
to move about 235 GB and a lot of the other files choke with a 
finder error, I'm sure the files are OK because they play??


 Finder chokes on complicated tasks.  Use CCC or ditto instead.

 Check your system and console logs - could be that Finder is 
choking because of some sort of hard error on the drive.


I really wish I knew what to look for in the Console and System 
logs. Can you give me a hint?


Error messages citing the HD during the time you were doing the copy. 
Could be any of a bazillion things, depending on the type of failure.


When you start having these types of problems... Launch Console and 
view the system log.  Hide it.  When the problem occurs, bring 
Console forward and take a look at what's new in the window.  Use the 
Clear and Mark buttons freely -- they put time stamps into the 
window, so you can tell what's new more easily.  Everything in 
Console is read-only - so you're not going to damage any logs etc.


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Re: File transfer not happening

2010-03-27 Thread John Musbach
On 3/27/10, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote:

 On Mar 27, 2010, at 10:44 AM, John Musbach wrote:

 That's why when doing big transfers like this I tend to use Terminals
 cp because it is significantly more robust then finder and will
 continue despite errors and will display where exactly it ran into
 trouble along the way so once it's finished you can go back and
 investigate the problematic files/folders.



 Could you briefly state how to do that? Terminal is kinda over my head.

Sure, it's: cp -R src dest, where src and dest are full directory
paths. It should then copy all that it can despite errors and print
errors it encounters along the way onto the terminal.

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Re: File transfer not happening

2010-03-27 Thread Gus
Dan, what is the difference between using cp and ditto when
transferring  large amounts of files like the OP is doing?

On Mar 27, 1:29 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:
 At 11:12 AM -0700 3/27/2010, John Carmonne wrote:

 On Mar 27, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Dan wrote:
    At 7:32 AM -0700 3/27/2010, John Carmonne wrote:
   I'm trying to transfer DVD images fro a 1TB drive to a new 2TB
 drive the size of the transfer is about 560 GB i've only been able
 to move about 235 GB and a lot of the other files choke with a
 finder error, I'm sure the files are OK because they play??

   Finder chokes on complicated tasks.  Use CCC or ditto instead.

   Check your system and console logs - could be that Finder is
 choking because of some sort of hard error on the drive.

 I really wish I knew what to look for in the Console and System
 logs. Can you give me a hint?

 Error messages citing the HD during the time you were doing the copy.
 Could be any of a bazillion things, depending on the type of failure.

 When you start having these types of problems... Launch Console and
 view the system log.  Hide it.  When the problem occurs, bring
 Console forward and take a look at what's new in the window.  Use the
 Clear and Mark buttons freely -- they put time stamps into the
 window, so you can tell what's new more easily.  Everything in
 Console is read-only - so you're not going to damage any logs etc.

 - Dan.
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