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Loved Yersinia's post and she is SO RIGHT! I thought I needed an Intel iMac to do something Dreamweaverish for web, and it turns out really I didn't, working with the naked code is much better anyway. So I could still be using that machine. I have kinda gotten hooked on Facebook though, and videos don't play too well on the G4. Oh, and it didn't have an airport card, so we had to plug the modem right into the box. That was a little funky, cuz the network was on my son's iMac then. So mebbe next time I just keep plugging along with the old Mac, whatever model it is. I have NEVER had any of the Macs die on me. I'm not kidding, I've taken them to be recycled, but they were still working. The first one was a Quadra - or an XVI I forget. The only trouble I ever had was with the G4 I didn't realize it wasn't sleeping, the fan was on 24/7, and came loose one day and banged around in the case. Then when I called Apple they wanted to hear that. I said, "you don't want to hear that, it's scary." Then when the tech heard it he yelled "turn it off, turn it off!" Week later the Mac was back, new fan, no troubles since. We forget how nice the Macs are, how time saving. When PC people talk about price, I just say, what about the price you pay for your time? Never mind that they live forever and the hard drives don't tend to crash, etc., etc. On Mar 12, 2011, at 9:04 AM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: WOW, you sound uptight. I am EXTREMELY thankful about my fabulous G4. It's my second one actually. I have preached Mac's to my pc friends for over 20 years about how great they are - and more importantly how I am always doing stuff while they are always stuck mucking around in their computers just trying to get them to work! This goes back to the day Dr. Alessi made me try his Mac SE. I was hooked, so I went home, threw my TRS-80 in the trash - yep- right to the curb- even though it had TWO floppy drives, and then went out and bought a MAXED out SE with its beautiful 9" screen. Ahh what a day. Anyway, No offense Yershina, I just thought it might make some people laugh and and brighten their day. I decided to write something funny - and stick it to Murphy's law. Ha! Even Murphy cant break down my Mac! Have a great day everyone. Barney On Feb 26, 2011, at 9:37 AM, Yersinia wrote: On 2/25/11 10:00 PM, Barney Guzzo wrote: Hi. I have a 2002 G4 933 Quicksilver. It has a 250 gb (Seagate) and a 128 gb (WD) ide drive, 500 gb sata drive, pci sata controller, pci gigabit ethernet card, pci 4 port 2.0 usb card, geforce ti 4600 128mb, and its connected to a a 23" Apple Cinema Display via ADC. I am using OS 10.4.11.This machine runs flawlessly and I have no problems. So what am I doing wrong? Any ideas? Yes, IMNSHO you are doing something HORRIBLY WRONG -- THIS POST! What is the MATTER with you?! You are dismally failing to just appreciate it when you've got one of those precious rare instances of something GOOD happening in the mostly sucky endeavor we call Life! In this case -- you have a beautiful Quicksilver which runs flawlessly and does everything you need it to do. BE THANKFUL! IMO upgrades are only NECESSARY when (a) the present computer no longer does what you actually NEED it to do (word processing vs. gaming, for instance: I mean heck, I bet an an old Mac Plus on System 6 would be enough for an obsessed writer who doesn't care about games, music, pictures or videos; but it sure as hell wouldn't do a graphics-intense and/or online game addict any good!), or, (b) the computer is running too slowly or is outright malfunctioning, which makes it way easier and maybe also even cheaper to buy a newer, "better" one instead of fixing or upgrading the one you have which has become insufficient or problematic. But if that NON-PROBLEMATIC Quicksilver 933 of yours IS doing everything you need it to be able to do, I think you should count your blessings, ENJOY it, bask in its beautiful sunlight and remember: IF IT AIN'T BROKE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO FIX IT. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Anne Keller Smith Down to Earth Web Design Intel iMac 2.4gHz Core 2 Duo 1GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive, OS 10.5.5 Intel iMac 2.66gHz Core 2 Duo 2GB RAM, 264GB Hard Drive, OS 10.5.6 G4 Quicksilver 733mHz Tower 896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS 10.4.11 mailto:earth...@ptd.ne
Re: G4 933 Quicksilver
On Mar 12, 2011, at 9:08 AM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: I had a 1400 also. I loved it but upgraded to a Pismo Powerbook. The pismo is awesome still to this day but the battery doesnt hold a charge anymore. "On the other hand, it could be refreshing from time to time to hear stories of G3-G5s running smooth, doing what we want them to do, thusly "empowering our lives". "EXACTLY! Maybe we should post our good news too? On Feb 27, 2011, at 8:05 AM, Geke wrote: My G4 dual QuickSilver (2002) operates perfectly and does anything I would ask of it. A wonderful machine and equally as fast as my iMac 20" late 2006. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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I had a 1400 also. I loved it but upgraded to a Pismo Powerbook. The pismo is awesome still to this day but the battery doesnt hold a charge anymore. "On the other hand, it could be refreshing from time to time to hear stories of G3-G5s running smooth, doing what we want them to do, thusly "empowering our lives". "EXACTLY! Maybe we should post our good news too? On Feb 27, 2011, at 8:05 AM, Geke wrote: Hi Barney, Maybe you’re gently mocking the listers for always reporting all those problems? It’s true, the list doesn’t reflect our "life with Mac" in a balanced way, but then, I don’t think it’s supposed to. On the other hand, it could be refreshing from time to time to hear stories of G3-G5s running smooth, doing what we want them to do, thusly "empowering our lives". I’ve a Powerbook 1400 with a G3 upgrade and OS 8.6 for simple stuff, with RAM-Mozilla mainly for email (including this list), MS Word 5, FileMaker Pro 3. When its RAM gets full, I have to reboot it, otherwise it’s always ready for a quick check or moment of inspiration. I have it in my living room, which is possible because it has no fan and boots from a CF card. I’ve typed an entire (thin) book on it -- true, part of it with an external ADB keyboard. Then a GigabitEthernet 2x500 which I use for all other things. It’s starting to boot a bit slowly now, because I can’t help installing more and more stuff. Otherwise it’s just there, doing all I want it to -- sometimes after some coaxing. Third: a GigE 450MHz (from a Cube) set up as a public computer running Tiger, with user accounts and browsers in three languages to accommodate different users. Running everyday with its old 20GB harddisk, it’s a modest but valued workplace. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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No, Just wanted to post some good news for a change and hope everyone had a laugh and took a break. Sometimes posting something good about our G4's might be nice. On Feb 26, 2011, at 2:40 PM, ah...clem wrote: so what exactly IS your question? the only answer i can see is you have WAY too much free time on your hands and want to waste other peoples' time with a frivolous and pointless post. get a job. get a life. move out of mommies' basement. kiss a girl. also, the QS has native gigabit ethernet, so pull the redundant card and sell it cheap to some poor slob still stuck using a pre GE Mac. On Feb 25, 10:00 pm, Barney Guzzo wrote: Hi. I have a 2002 G4 933 Quicksilver. It has a 250 gb (Seagate) and a 128 gb (WD) ide drive, 500 gb sata drive, pci sata controller, pci gigabit ethernet card, pci 4 port 2.0 usb card, geforce ti 4600 128mb, and its connected to a a 23" Apple Cinema Display via ADC. I am using OS 10.4.11.This machine runs flawlessly and I have no problems. So what am I doing wrong? Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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WOW, you sound uptight. I am EXTREMELY thankful about my fabulous G4. It's my second one actually. I have preached Mac's to my pc friends for over 20 years about how great they are - and more importantly how I am always doing stuff while they are always stuck mucking around in their computers just trying to get them to work! This goes back to the day Dr. Alessi made me try his Mac SE. I was hooked, so I went home, threw my TRS-80 in the trash - yep- right to the curb- even though it had TWO floppy drives, and then went out and bought a MAXED out SE with its beautiful 9" screen. Ahh what a day. Anyway, No offense Yershina, I just thought it might make some people laugh and and brighten their day. I decided to write something funny - and stick it to Murphy's law. Ha! Even Murphy cant break down my Mac! Have a great day everyone. Barney On Feb 26, 2011, at 9:37 AM, Yersinia wrote: On 2/25/11 10:00 PM, Barney Guzzo wrote: Hi. I have a 2002 G4 933 Quicksilver. It has a 250 gb (Seagate) and a 128 gb (WD) ide drive, 500 gb sata drive, pci sata controller, pci gigabit ethernet card, pci 4 port 2.0 usb card, geforce ti 4600 128mb, and its connected to a a 23" Apple Cinema Display via ADC. I am using OS 10.4.11.This machine runs flawlessly and I have no problems. So what am I doing wrong? Any ideas? Yes, IMNSHO you are doing something HORRIBLY WRONG -- THIS POST! What is the MATTER with you?! You are dismally failing to just appreciate it when you've got one of those precious rare instances of something GOOD happening in the mostly sucky endeavor we call Life! In this case -- you have a beautiful Quicksilver which runs flawlessly and does everything you need it to do. BE THANKFUL! IMO upgrades are only NECESSARY when (a) the present computer no longer does what you actually NEED it to do (word processing vs. gaming, for instance: I mean heck, I bet an an old Mac Plus on System 6 would be enough for an obsessed writer who doesn't care about games, music, pictures or videos; but it sure as hell wouldn't do a graphics-intense and/or online game addict any good!), or, (b) the computer is running too slowly or is outright malfunctioning, which makes it way easier and maybe also even cheaper to buy a newer, "better" one instead of fixing or upgrading the one you have which has become insufficient or problematic. But if that NON-PROBLEMATIC Quicksilver 933 of yours IS doing everything you need it to be able to do, I think you should count your blessings, ENJOY it, bask in its beautiful sunlight and remember: IF IT AIN'T BROKE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO FIX IT. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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Ahh Flash - Let me go get a new version. Maybe that will work. Thanks for the tip. On Feb 26, 2011, at 1:35 AM, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/02/25 20:00, Barney Guzzo so eloquently wrote: Hi. I have a 2002 G4 933 Quicksilver. It has a 250 gb (Seagate) and a 128 gb (WD) ide drive, 500 gb sata drive, pci sata controller, pci gigabit ethernet card, pci 4 port 2.0 usb card, geforce ti 4600 128mb, and its connected to a a 23" Apple Cinema Display via ADC. I am using OS 10.4.11.This machine runs flawlessly and I have no problems. So what am I doing wrong? Any ideas? Are you sure you have Flash installed? You could install some haxies and SIMBL just to make things interesting. Tina -- iMac 20" USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15" HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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Beware about the 23" ADC monitor in this machine…if the power supply is not strong enough for feed your 23" inches monster…the power supply can die. 400watts Power Supply -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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You should get a processor upgrade (preferably a dual), a better GPU (Radeon 9800 Pro), Leopard, and maybe a USB 2.0 card. On Mar 6, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: > Yeah Yeah! What hardware should I install > > > On Feb 25, 2011, at 10:41 PM, Dan wrote: > >> At 7:00 PM -0800 2/25/2011, Barney Guzzo wrote: >>> Hi. I have a 2002 G4 933 Quicksilver. It has a 250 gb (Seagate) and >>> a 128 gb (WD) ide drive, 500 gb sata drive, pci sata controller, pci >>> gigabit ethernet card, pci 4 port 2.0 usb card, geforce ti 4600 128mb, >>> and its connected to a a 23" Apple Cinema Display via ADC. I am using >>> OS 10.4.11.This machine runs flawlessly and I have no problems. >>> >>> So what am I doing wrong? Any ideas? >> >> Geeze. Waggling yer finger in Murphy's face is just not a good plan! >> >> OTOH, "no problems" sounds boring. Upgrade! Add more hardware & software! >> >> G'luck, >> - Dan. >> -- >> - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for >> those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power >> Macs. >> The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our >> netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml >> To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette > guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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Yeah Yeah! What hardware should I install On Feb 25, 2011, at 10:41 PM, Dan wrote: At 7:00 PM -0800 2/25/2011, Barney Guzzo wrote: Hi. I have a 2002 G4 933 Quicksilver. It has a 250 gb (Seagate) and a 128 gb (WD) ide drive, 500 gb sata drive, pci sata controller, pci gigabit ethernet card, pci 4 port 2.0 usb card, geforce ti 4600 128mb, and its connected to a a 23" Apple Cinema Display via ADC. I am using OS 10.4.11.This machine runs flawlessly and I have no problems. So what am I doing wrong? Any ideas? Geeze. Waggling yer finger in Murphy's face is just not a good plan! OTOH, "no problems" sounds boring. Upgrade! Add more hardware & software! G'luck, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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Hi Barney, Maybe you’re gently mocking the listers for always reporting all those problems? It’s true, the list doesn’t reflect our "life with Mac" in a balanced way, but then, I don’t think it’s supposed to. On the other hand, it could be refreshing from time to time to hear stories of G3-G5s running smooth, doing what we want them to do, thusly "empowering our lives". I’ve a Powerbook 1400 with a G3 upgrade and OS 8.6 for simple stuff, with RAM-Mozilla mainly for email (including this list), MS Word 5, FileMaker Pro 3. When its RAM gets full, I have to reboot it, otherwise it’s always ready for a quick check or moment of inspiration. I have it in my living room, which is possible because it has no fan and boots from a CF card. I’ve typed an entire (thin) book on it -- true, part of it with an external ADB keyboard. Then a GigabitEthernet 2x500 which I use for all other things. It’s starting to boot a bit slowly now, because I can’t help installing more and more stuff. Otherwise it’s just there, doing all I want it to -- sometimes after some coaxing. Third: a GigE 450MHz (from a Cube) set up as a public computer running Tiger, with user accounts and browsers in three languages to accommodate different users. Running everyday with its old 20GB harddisk, it’s a modest but valued workplace. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 933 Quicksilver
so what exactly IS your question? the only answer i can see is you have WAY too much free time on your hands and want to waste other peoples' time with a frivolous and pointless post. get a job. get a life. move out of mommies' basement. kiss a girl. also, the QS has native gigabit ethernet, so pull the redundant card and sell it cheap to some poor slob still stuck using a pre GE Mac. On Feb 25, 10:00 pm, Barney Guzzo wrote: > Hi. I have a 2002 G4 933 Quicksilver. It has a 250 gb (Seagate) and > a 128 gb (WD) ide drive, 500 gb sata drive, pci sata controller, pci > gigabit ethernet card, pci 4 port 2.0 usb card, geforce ti 4600 128mb, > and its connected to a a 23" Apple Cinema Display via ADC. I am using > OS 10.4.11. This machine runs flawlessly and I have no problems. > So what am I doing wrong? Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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Ya know, I understand your point, Yersinia, but I think you're a little over the top in presenting it. On 2/26/2011 8:37 AM, Yersinia wrote: On 2/25/11 10:00 PM, Barney Guzzo wrote: Hi. I have a 2002 G4 933 Quicksilver. It has a 250 gb (Seagate) and a 128 gb (WD) ide drive, 500 gb sata drive, pci sata controller, pci gigabit ethernet card, pci 4 port 2.0 usb card, geforce ti 4600 128mb, and its connected to a a 23" Apple Cinema Display via ADC. I am using OS 10.4.11.This machine runs flawlessly and I have no problems. So what am I doing wrong? Any ideas? Yes, IMNSHO you are doing something HORRIBLY WRONG -- THIS POST! What is the MATTER with you?! You are dismally failing to just appreciate it when you've got one of those precious rare instances of something GOOD happening in the mostly sucky endeavor we call Life! In this case -- you have a beautiful Quicksilver which runs flawlessly and does everything you need it to do. BE THANKFUL! IF IT AIN'T BROKE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO FIX IT. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 933 Quicksilver
On 2/25/11 10:00 PM, Barney Guzzo wrote: Hi. I have a 2002 G4 933 Quicksilver. It has a 250 gb (Seagate) and a 128 gb (WD) ide drive, 500 gb sata drive, pci sata controller, pci gigabit ethernet card, pci 4 port 2.0 usb card, geforce ti 4600 128mb, and its connected to a a 23" Apple Cinema Display via ADC. I am using OS 10.4.11.This machine runs flawlessly and I have no problems. So what am I doing wrong? Any ideas? Yes, IMNSHO you are doing something HORRIBLY WRONG -- THIS POST! What is the MATTER with you?! You are dismally failing to just appreciate it when you've got one of those precious rare instances of something GOOD happening in the mostly sucky endeavor we call Life! In this case -- you have a beautiful Quicksilver which runs flawlessly and does everything you need it to do. BE THANKFUL! IMO upgrades are only NECESSARY when (a) the present computer no longer does what you actually NEED it to do (word processing vs. gaming, for instance: I mean heck, I bet an an old Mac Plus on System 6 would be enough for an obsessed writer who doesn't care about games, music, pictures or videos; but it sure as hell wouldn't do a graphics-intense and/or online game addict any good!), or, (b) the computer is running too slowly or is outright malfunctioning, which makes it way easier and maybe also even cheaper to buy a newer, "better" one instead of fixing or upgrading the one you have which has become insufficient or problematic. But if that NON-PROBLEMATIC Quicksilver 933 of yours IS doing everything you need it to be able to do, I think you should count your blessings, ENJOY it, bask in its beautiful sunlight and remember: IF IT AIN'T BROKE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO FIX IT. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On 2011/02/25 20:00, Barney Guzzo so eloquently wrote: Hi. I have a 2002 G4 933 Quicksilver. It has a 250 gb (Seagate) and a 128 gb (WD) ide drive, 500 gb sata drive, pci sata controller, pci gigabit ethernet card, pci 4 port 2.0 usb card, geforce ti 4600 128mb, and its connected to a a 23" Apple Cinema Display via ADC. I am using OS 10.4.11.This machine runs flawlessly and I have no problems. So what am I doing wrong? Any ideas? Are you sure you have Flash installed? You could install some haxies and SIMBL just to make things interesting. Tina -- iMac 20" USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15" HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 933 Quicksilver
At 7:00 PM -0800 2/25/2011, Barney Guzzo wrote: Hi. I have a 2002 G4 933 Quicksilver. It has a 250 gb (Seagate) and a 128 gb (WD) ide drive, 500 gb sata drive, pci sata controller, pci gigabit ethernet card, pci 4 port 2.0 usb card, geforce ti 4600 128mb, and its connected to a a 23" Apple Cinema Display via ADC. I am using OS 10.4.11.This machine runs flawlessly and I have no problems. So what am I doing wrong? Any ideas? Geeze. Waggling yer finger in Murphy's face is just not a good plan! OTOH, "no problems" sounds boring. Upgrade! Add more hardware & software! G'luck, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G4 933 Quicksilver
Hi. I have a 2002 G4 933 Quicksilver. It has a 250 gb (Seagate) and a 128 gb (WD) ide drive, 500 gb sata drive, pci sata controller, pci gigabit ethernet card, pci 4 port 2.0 usb card, geforce ti 4600 128mb, and its connected to a a 23" Apple Cinema Display via ADC. I am using OS 10.4.11.This machine runs flawlessly and I have no problems. So what am I doing wrong? Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 933 quicksilver
On 2010/12/06 20:36, Baldassare Guzzo so eloquently wrote: Wow. I removed the hp scan jet crap and everything seems to be working now. I can't believe how much stress this relieved. That was the most annoying thing I've had to deal with on my Mac in a very long time. Yes it is amazing just how bad hardware OEM software can be. I could never understand why features built into the hardware were not implemented in the software, such as the front panel button on my Epson 2450. Windoze gets all the optimization and Mac gets hardly a second thought. Tina -- iMac 20" USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15" HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 933 quicksilver
Wow. I removed the hp scan jet crap and everything seems to be working now. I can't believe how much stress this relieved. That was the most annoying thing I've had to deal with on my Mac in a very long time. Thank you Dan and Bruce. On Dec 5, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Dan wrote: > At 11:55 AM -0700 12/5/2010, Bruce Johnson wrote: >> Just deleting it from the accounts panel should do the trick, although >> earlier versions of the HP software checked to see of it was installed >> whenever you used the scanner, and re-installed it. IN that case I reccomend >> ripping out all the HP software and just using something like VueScan to do >> the scanning. However I last encountered that behavior back in the 10.2 >> days; I'm pretty sure HP has gotten more civilized since then. > > "Civilized" is relative. > > Yes, remove "HP ScanJet Manager" from the user's login items list. It will > stay removed. > > Then you can just use the PrecisionScan software, etc, normally. It all > lives in /Applications/ Hewlett-Packard/. What I did was create an alias to > that directory, and stick it into my Pictures folder. That way I can easily > access all of it. I do NOT recommend moving the Hewlett-Packard folder out > of /Applications, as that seems to break things. > > If you want the front buttons and such to work, then you can manually launch > the ScanJet Manager.app as-needed. Just DON'T leave it running -- it has > several serious memory leaks! Easiest way to kill it when you're done is > with Activity Monitor. > > - Dan. > -- > - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette > guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 933 quicksilver
At 11:55 AM -0700 12/5/2010, Bruce Johnson wrote: Just deleting it from the accounts panel should do the trick, although earlier versions of the HP software checked to see of it was installed whenever you used the scanner, and re-installed it. IN that case I reccomend ripping out all the HP software and just using something like VueScan to do the scanning. However I last encountered that behavior back in the 10.2 days; I'm pretty sure HP has gotten more civilized since then. "Civilized" is relative. Yes, remove "HP ScanJet Manager" from the user's login items list. It will stay removed. Then you can just use the PrecisionScan software, etc, normally. It all lives in /Applications/ Hewlett-Packard/. What I did was create an alias to that directory, and stick it into my Pictures folder. That way I can easily access all of it. I do NOT recommend moving the Hewlett-Packard folder out of /Applications, as that seems to break things. If you want the front buttons and such to work, then you can manually launch the ScanJet Manager.app as-needed. Just DON'T leave it running -- it has several serious memory leaks! Easiest way to kill it when you're done is with Activity Monitor. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 933 quicksilver
On Dec 4, 2010, at 6:17 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: > Thank you. Ill give it a try. I just delete it from the accounts panel or > do I remove it from the system somewhere also? Just deleting it from the accounts panel should do the trick, although earlier versions of the HP software checked to see of it was installed whenever you used the scanner, and re-installed it. IN that case I reccomend ripping out all the HP software and just using something like VueScan to do the scanning. However I last encountered that behavior back in the 10.2 days; I'm pretty sure HP has gotten more civilized since then. -- Bruce Johnson "Wherever you go, there you are" B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 933 quicksilver
Thank you. Ill give it a try. I just delete it from the accounts panel or do I remove it from the system somewhere also? On Dec 4, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 3, 2010, at 10:13 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: User log in items shows HP scan jet manager, i Get rid of this. This &&#...@$# program has caused me more grief on a variety of systems.. All this does os let you push the buttons on the front of the scanner and have it do things. In return it screws up the rest of the computer -- Bruce Johnson "Wherever you go, there you are" B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 933 quicksilver
On Dec 3, 2010, at 10:13 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: > User log in items shows HP scan jet manager, i Get rid of this. This &&#...@$# program has caused me more grief on a variety of systems.. All this does os let you push the buttons on the front of the scanner and have it do things. In return it screws up the rest of the computer -- Bruce Johnson "Wherever you go, there you are" B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 933 quicksilver
OS is 10.4.11 User log in items shows HP scan jet manager, iTunes helper, palm desktop background, and iCalAlarmScheduler. I have not used palm desktop in a very long time I will try booting in safe mode tonight and let you know. Console log shows lots of stuff but Im not sure what to look for. Shows lots of "incompatible applications" System log shows lots of "local host kernel ..." On Dec 3, 2010, at 9:46 PM, Dan wrote: At 10:57 AM -0800 12/3/2010, Barney Guzzo wrote: G4 933 1 gig ram, 250 gb Seagate 7200 .8 hard drive (ata), WD 128 drive (ata), internal 500 Gb Seagate 7200.12 sata drive with pci sata card, Gigabit ethernet card, Sonnet 4 port pci usb 2.0 card. OS? hangs when I try to run any kind of maintenance program (TTP, Onyx, Disk utility, etc etc). It just goes blank when I try to switch a user or shut down and have to restart constantly. Does Disk Utility hang if you first boot into Safe Mode (shift key held down)? My question is when I open activity monitor I always see "notifier" highlighted, "not responding", and red. What is "Notifier" and could it be my problem or part of my problem? Could be. There is the system notification manager, notifyd. But you say "Notifier" - that name is not part of the OS... and Google shows me half a dozen products that use that name. Check your system and console logs for error messages. Check your user login items list to see if it's there. (System Preferences, Accounts) - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 933 quicksilver
At 10:57 AM -0800 12/3/2010, Barney Guzzo wrote: G4 933 1 gig ram, 250 gb Seagate 7200 .8 hard drive (ata), WD 128 drive (ata), internal 500 Gb Seagate 7200.12 sata drive with pci sata card, Gigabit ethernet card, Sonnet 4 port pci usb 2.0 card. OS? hangs when I try to run any kind of maintenance program (TTP, Onyx, Disk utility, etc etc). It just goes blank when I try to switch a user or shut down and have to restart constantly. Does Disk Utility hang if you first boot into Safe Mode (shift key held down)? My question is when I open activity monitor I always see "notifier" highlighted, "not responding", and red. What is "Notifier" and could it be my problem or part of my problem? Could be. There is the system notification manager, notifyd. But you say "Notifier" - that name is not part of the OS... and Google shows me half a dozen products that use that name. Check your system and console logs for error messages. Check your user login items list to see if it's there. (System Preferences, Accounts) - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G4 933 quicksilver
Im following some threads because my quicksilver 933 is acting up. It hangs when I try to run any kind of maintenance program (TTP, Onyx, Disk utility, etc etc). It just goes blank when I try to switch a user or shut down and have to restart constantly. My question is when I open activity monitor I always see "notifier" highlighted, "not responding", and red. What is "Notifier" and could it be my problem or part of my problem? G4 933 1 gig ram, 250 gb Seagate 7200 .8 hard drive (ata), WD 128 drive (ata), internal 500 Gb Seagate 7200.12 sata drive with pci sata card, Gigabit ethernet card, Sonnet 4 port pci usb 2.0 card. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Should I upgrade to 10.5.8 on a G4 933 Quicksilver that already has 10.5.7 on it?
10.5.8 worked ok. I don't use Blue Ray or airport though. - Original Message - From: "Al Poulin" To: "G3-5 List" Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 9:45 AM Subject: Re: Should I upgrade to 10.5.8 on a G4 933 Quicksilver that already has 10.5.7 on it? On Aug 7, 11:10 pm, ll wrote: > Will there be a problem? I just had this computer upgraded from > 733 to 933 and added ram to total 1.3.I don't have 10.5 dvds to > reinstall if there is a major problem. Yes, you should -- some time later. There is always a risk in making an OS version "update." So it is always best to have the Leopard DVD on hand. Also, there have been a few problems reported by people making this update, but if your machine is pretty much plain vanilla with standard applications and no third-party geeky "enhancements" to the OS, things should go well. Check with the 933 hardware vendor for any problems with the OS update. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Should I upgrade to 10.5.8 on a G4 933 Quicksilver that already has 10.5.7 on it?
At 7:45 AM -0700 8/8/2009, Al Poulin wrote: >On Aug 7, 11:10 pm, ll wrote: > > Will there be a problem? I just had this computer upgraded from > > 733 to 933 and added ram to total 1.3.I don't have 10.5 dvds to >> reinstall if there is a major problem. > >Yes, you should -- some time later. There is always a risk in making >an OS version "update." So it is always best to have the Leopard DVD >on hand. If you have a current clone of your boot volume, on another drive (internal or external) then there's no need for the DVDs. Still a good idea to have 'em tho. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Should I upgrade to 10.5.8 on a G4 933 Quicksilver that already has 10.5.7 on it?
On Aug 7, 11:10 pm, ll wrote: > Will there be a problem? I just had this computer upgraded from > 733 to 933 and added ram to total 1.3.I don't have 10.5 dvds to > reinstall if there is a major problem. Yes, you should -- some time later. There is always a risk in making an OS version "update." So it is always best to have the Leopard DVD on hand. Also, there have been a few problems reported by people making this update, but if your machine is pretty much plain vanilla with standard applications and no third-party geeky "enhancements" to the OS, things should go well. Check with the 933 hardware vendor for any problems with the OS update. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Should I upgrade to 10.5.8 on a G4 933 Quicksilver that already has 10.5.7 on it?
Will there be a problem? I just had this computer upgraded from 733 to 933 and added ram to total 1.3.I don't have 10.5 dvds to reinstall if there is a major problem. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
