Re: G4 CPU swap into Blue White G3

2009-03-07 Thread tonycd


 another reason it always depends on what you are doing -- my 33mhz
 powerbook540c is still very very useful (possible essential) for
 me ... but not for the same things.

This machine is being set up basically to run InDesign and Photoshop
CS2. Altivec is a big deal for those, although not for lots of other
things. A mhz-for-mhz swap at $25 or so would be a pretty good deal in
this case.
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Re: G4 CPU swap into Blue White G3

2009-03-06 Thread tortoise



On Mar 5, 5:46 am, PeterH peterh5...@rattlebrain.com wrote:
 On Mar 5, 2009, at 5:33 AM, tonycd wrote:

  What's the newest variety of G4 whose swapped-out CPU will drop into a
  Blue  White G3?

 I traded a megahertz for megahertz G4s for the G3s in two of my BWs,  
 and I was disappointed.


I did the same and I like it ! I have upgraded a newer 466 to a 1.5ghz
and I still like the
upgraded turquoise mac ! I am using it for some music stuff. Anything
that uses altivec is still about 2.5 times faster here than the g3 at
450 mhz. but note it only cost me $25 (and there are regularly 400mhz
g4 zif on ebay now selling for even less)

however, because the memory speed limits, going to higher mhz might
put too much pinch on the altivec and limit its usefulness.

a possible explanation for the difference of experience : altivec
support has improved in the last few years for various reasons.

another reason it always depends on what you are doing -- my 33mhz
powerbook540c is still very very useful (possible essential) for
me ... but not for the same things.





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G4 CPU swap into Blue White G3

2009-03-05 Thread tonycd

A simple question that I'm sure has been covered before (I just
couldn't find the answer):

What's the newest variety of G4 whose swapped-out CPU will drop into a
Blue  White G3?

  Thanks,
  Tony
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Re: G4 CPU swap into Blue White G3

2009-03-05 Thread PeterH


On Mar 5, 2009, at 5:33 AM, tonycd wrote:

 What's the newest variety of G4 whose swapped-out CPU will drop into a
 Blue  White G3?

Newest is most probably a 533 or 1000 MHz G3, not a G4. These may  
still be available from OWC.

G4 pin-grid array Processors from first G4 desktops will work in a  
BW, but this requires a firmware patch which is easily available.

I traded a megahertz for megahertz G4s for the G3s in two of my BWs,  
and I was disappointed.

I ultimately went with the 533 and 1000 MHz G3s instead.

I can see that the 533 MHz G3 upgrades are no longer available,  
however the 1000 MHz upgrades still are.

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/PowerLogix/PFZGX10001M/

OWC also sells a G4 upgrade for the same systems, but it is only one- 
half as fast, and it is one-and-a-half times as expensive.



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Re: G4 CPU swap into Blue White G3

2009-03-05 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Mar 5, 2009, at 6:33 AM, tonycd wrote:


 A simple question that I'm sure has been covered before (I just
 couldn't find the answer):

 What's the newest variety of G4 whose swapped-out CPU will drop into a
 Blue  White G3?

The ONLY G4 swappable into a BW is a ZIF for the short-lived Yikes  
first gen G4. Apple only made 'em for a few months.

All the rest of the G4 series did not have swappable CPU's, but  
daughter cards with the CPU on it.

http://tinyurl.com/bst5z7 PeterH is right, the 1Ghz G3 at OWC is a  
much better solution.

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs



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Re: G4 CPU swap into Blue White G3

2009-03-05 Thread PeterH


On Mar 5, 2009, at 9:04 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

 What's the newest variety of G4 whose swapped-out CPU will drop  
 into a
 Blue  White G3?

 http://tinyurl.com/bst5z7 PeterH is right, the 1Ghz G3 at OWC is a
 much better solution.

Blush

I did LOTS of productive work with my 1000 MHz BW G3 before having  
to change to a G4 on account of software support issues.

But even then, that 1000 Mhz BW G3 was faster than any G4 I then had.

That all changed with the dual 1.0 GHz G4, of course.

And, that dual 1.0 GHz lasted me quite a while until the dual and  
quad Intel Hackentoshes became practical solutions for me.

I'm typing this on a dual 1.0 GHz Digital Audio (QS 2002 processor),  
but most of my productive work is now done on dual 3.6 GHz or quad  
3.2 GHz P35-based Hackentoshes (10.5.6 vanilla Leopard, using the  
retail DVD distribution).



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