Re: G4 getting wonky with cpu hungry widgets.
I want to Thank every one who read and responded to my thread. I learned a few things and i will investigate the Onyx and the applejack. What i forgot to do before i posted to the list was to boot from OSX installer DVD and run Disk Utility. Heh. I did that and it couldn't fix it. So i ran Disk Warrior and that fixed the issue. All the offending apps are behaving now,including Safari, Mail, Widgets, YahooIM, and ichat, and whatever else. There were a couple of overlapping files and some me involved a cache. So, yes, it was a HDD file corruption problem. Thanks goodness for the list and thank goodness for the Disk Warrior! Carter Any kernel panics (whole OS crashes)? No kernel panics so far , just certian aps like to quit like mail safari yahooim ichat. QuickTime dosnt crash just seems to be like net oriented apps. What does Activity Monitor say are the top cpu pigs? Something happened that made some pigs. Mail, Safari, Yahoo messenger, any widget, -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 getting wonky with cpu hungry widgets.
On Nov 25, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Dan wrote: At 6:48 PM -0500 11/24/2009, carter foreman wrote: G4 dual 1ghz 1.5 GB RAM, OS 10.4.11. Fully updated, Safari 4.0.4 also? yep Spotlight indexing enabled? yep Lately i have been having an issue with the widgets taking way too much cpu time. So i turned them off. Dashboard can be problematic. It always runs, using both memory and cpu resources. Once a widget is loaded, it's always running too. Try temporarily disabling Dashboard altogether using a tool like OnyX. i havent done that yet but i did take all the widgets off the board, an empty dash board. Ill look into the OnyX soon Safari keeps quiting and it takes way too much CPU time too. Apps quit too frequently and memory seems to be leaking. Any kernel panics (whole OS crashes)? No kernel panics so far , just certian aps like to quit like mail safari yahooim ichat. QuickTime dosnt crash just seems to be like net oriented apps. What does Activity Monitor say are the top cpu pigs? Something happened that made some pigs. Mail, Safari, Yahoo messenger, any widget, I first noticed this when i came home from work and i had left dashboard up all day, and then they were hogs. even when in the background, so i deactivated all the widgets though Dashboard is still running. ill try OnyX to see what there is to see and I'll send off this email before mail quits. Thanks What do the app crash logs say? (If you don't know how to read them, please take a bunch, zip 'em up and email them to me directly. I'll take a quick look. Please DO NOT post them into the group). In Safari, do you have the page previews enabled? do you have fraudulent site checking enabled? Those two features greatly slow Safari and make it chew a LOT of cpu time. Right now i am running MAIL and Activity Monitor and that is all, aside from Finder. I have 16.36MB Free memory and 917 MB active 461MB inactive, 140MB wired How is this possible? You gots something else running. Try disabling Dashboard then re-check. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 getting wonky with cpu hungry widgets.
At 6:48 PM -0500 11/24/2009, carter foreman wrote: G4 dual 1ghz 1.5 GB RAM, OS 10.4.11. Fully updated, Safari 4.0.4 also? Spotlight indexing enabled? Lately i have been having an issue with the widgets taking way too much cpu time. So i turned them off. Dashboard can be problematic. It always runs, using both memory and cpu resources. Once a widget is loaded, it's always running too. Try temporarily disabling Dashboard altogether using a tool like OnyX. Safari keeps quiting and it takes way too much CPU time too. Apps quit too frequently and memory seems to be leaking. Any kernel panics (whole OS crashes)? What does Activity Monitor say are the top cpu pigs? What do the app crash logs say? (If you don't know how to read them, please take a bunch, zip 'em up and email them to me directly. I'll take a quick look. Please DO NOT post them into the group). In Safari, do you have the page previews enabled? do you have fraudulent site checking enabled? Those two features greatly slow Safari and make it chew a LOT of cpu time. Right now i am running MAIL and Activity Monitor and that is all, aside from Finder. I have 16.36MB Free memory and 917 MB active 461MB inactive, 140MB wired How is this possible? You gots something else running. Try disabling Dashboard then re-check. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G4 getting wonky with cpu hungry widgets.
Hi I have a G4 dual 1ghz 1.5 GB RAM, OS 10.4.11. Lately i have been having an issue with the widgets taking way too much cpu time. So i turned them off. Safari keeps quiting and it takes way too much CPU time too. Apps quit too frequently and memory seems to be leaking. Right now i am running MAIL and Activity Monitor and that is all, aside from Finder. I have 16.36MB Free memory and 917 MB active 461MB inactive, 140MB wired How is this possible? I know it isnt right. Anyone have an idea what is going on here? Thanks in advance for any response, Carter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 getting wonky with cpu hungry widgets.
On Nov 24, 2009, at 6:48 PM, carter foreman wrote: Hi I have a G4 dual 1ghz 1.5 GB RAM, OS 10.4.11. Lately i have been having an issue with the widgets taking way too much cpu time. So i turned them off. Safari keeps quiting and it takes way too much CPU time too. Apps quit too frequently and memory seems to be leaking. Just guessing ... You might have one or more bad memory sticks. When apps quit unexpectedly, this could be a sign of bad RAM. I would run the Ram Test in Applejack in Single User mode after installing it with memtest included, and see if it indicates bad RAM. Then proceed to determine which one it is. cpu seemingly hungry might indicate a disk going bad. It spins its wheels so to speak, while trying to Read/Reread a bad hard drive, and it seems like its going wonkers with the apps. A bad hard drive may be another area to investigate. There are other threads on this as well. Just search the forum. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 getting wonky with cpu hungry widgets.
Have you tried repairing permissions? On Nov 24, 2009, at 4:48 PM, carter foreman wrote: Hi I have a G4 dual 1ghz 1.5 GB RAM, OS 10.4.11. Lately i have been having an issue with the widgets taking way too much cpu time. So i turned them off. Safari keeps quiting and it takes way too much CPU time too. Apps quit too frequently and memory seems to be leaking. Right now i am running MAIL and Activity Monitor and that is all, aside from Finder. I have 16.36MB Free memory and 917 MB active 461MB inactive, 140MB wired How is this possible? I know it isnt right. Anyone have an idea what is going on here? Thanks in advance for any response, Carter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 getting wonky with cpu hungry widgets.
yup that dosnt seem to affect it. On Nov 24, 2009, at 8:24 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: Have you tried repairing permissions? On Nov 24, 2009, at 4:48 PM, carter foreman wrote: Hi I have a G4 dual 1ghz 1.5 GB RAM, OS 10.4.11. Lately i have been having an issue with the widgets taking way too much cpu time. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
