Upgrading to Lion

2011-08-04 Thread diane
Is it true that you have to have SL to do the upgrade? I didn't see this as a requirement on Apple's site though they only have instructions for upgrading from SL, no other OS is mentioned. Somehow I missed that tidbit in the hoopla. Thanks, Diane -- You received this message because you are a

Re: Upgrading to Lion

2011-08-04 Thread peterhaas
Is it true that you have to have SL to do the upgrade? No, it is NOT true. And NO, it is NOT an upgrade, it it actually an installer onto 10.6.8, and it can be made into a true installer, and ... indeed ... an installer which needs no other OS of any kind in order to install Lion onto a target

Re: Upgrading to Lion

2011-08-04 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Aug 4, 2011, at 10:30 AM, diane wrote: s it true that you have to have SL to do the upgrade? I didn't see this as a requirement on Apple's site though they only have instructions for upgrading from SL, no other OS is mentioned. Somehow I missed that tidbit in the hoopla. Yes and no. As

Re: Upgrading to Lion

2011-08-04 Thread Mark
On 8/4/11 1:55 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: Is it true that you have to have SL to do the upgrade? No, it is NOT true. And NO, it is NOT an upgrade, it it actually an installer onto 10.6.8, and it can be made into a true installer, and ... indeed ... an installer which needs no other OS of

Re: Upgrading to Lion

2011-08-04 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Mark wrote: Are these other processors you mention what would be in an old MacBook Pro? No they're specific Intel chipsets on generic PeeCees. Lion requires a Core 2 Duo processor or better, excluding the first gen MBP's with their core Duo cpus, which are 32-bit

Re: Upgrading to Lion

2011-08-04 Thread peterhaas
Are these other processors you mention what would be in an old MacBook Pro? No they're specific Intel chipsets on generic PeeCees. Lion requires a Core 2 Duo processor or better, excluding the first gen MBP's with their core Duo cpus, which are 32-bit only. Lion is strictly 64 bit.. Until

Re: Upgrading to Lion

2011-08-04 Thread Kris Tilford
On Aug 4, 2011, at 7:32 PM, Tina K. wrote: Meaning the OS is 100% 64 bit, or the OS and Apps are 100% 64 bit? I don't think so, but I'm still confused upon this issue? Would someone clarify please? I'd thought that Lion was supposed to be 100% 64-bit, and since my hackintosh laptop (as

Re: Upgrading to Lion

2011-08-04 Thread peterhaas
Lion is strictly 64 bit.. Meaning the OS is 100% 64 bit, or the OS and Apps are 100% 64 bit? Lion is intended to be 64-bit, but only the Finder MUST run in 64-bit. The kernel is 32-/64-bit as is almost everything else (except the Finder). You may boot Lion into 32-bit (arch=i386, in the boot

Re: Upgrading to Lion

2011-08-04 Thread Dan
At 8:13 PM -0500 8/4/2011, Kris Tilford wrote: On Aug 4, 2011, at 7:32 PM, Tina K. wrote: Meaning the OS is 100% 64 bit, or the OS and Apps are 100% 64 bit? I don't think so, but I'm still confused upon this issue? Would someone clarify please? [Moved from below for clarity] When booted

Re: Upgrading to Lion

2011-08-04 Thread Joshua Juran
On Aug 4, 2011, at 7:00 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: Lion is intended to be 64-bit, but only the Finder MUST run in 64- bit. The kernel is 32-/64-bit as is almost everything else (except the Finder). You may boot Lion into 32-bit (arch=i386, in the boot loader's boot flags), but the

Re: Upgrading to Lion

2011-08-04 Thread Dan
At 10:12 PM -0400 8/4/2011, Dan wrote: As distributed, there's a file missing that tells Lion it can boot on 32-bit hardware -- hence Apple's claim that you need a Core 2 or better processor. Add that file back and it works... this was discovered by the hackintosh crowd during the seeding

Re: Upgrading to Lion

2011-08-04 Thread Dan
At 7:38 PM -0700 8/4/2011, Joshua Juran wrote: Has anyone seen the Finder using even 1 GB of virtual memory, let alone exceeding the 4 GB limit that necessitates 64-bit pointers? No. Nothing I've tried makes it suck up anything near that much. I think my peak so far is around 420 MB. And

Re: Upgrading to Lion

2011-08-04 Thread Arnel Tuazon
On 11-08-04 1:30 PM, diane dianed...@gmail.com wrote: Is it true that you have to have SL to do the upgrade? I didn't see this as a requirement on Apple's site though they only have instructions for upgrading from SL, no other OS is mentioned. Somehow I missed that tidbit in the hoopla.