What form factor is the Airport Extreme card?

2011-03-14 Thread Jeffrey Engle
Just curious here, is the Airport extreme card a mini-pci card? will it fit 
into a mini-pci slot? has anybody tried this?


Jeffrey Engle
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Re: What form factor is the Airport Extreme card?

2011-03-14 Thread peterhaas

 Just curious here, is the Airport extreme card a mini-pci card? will it
 fit into a mini-pci slot? has anybody tried this?

The Broadcom cards which are sold for use in Dell laptops are indeed
Mini-PCI cards.

For use in a desktop Mac, you would also use a Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter
card, one which also included an R-RMC connector and cable, and an R-SMC
antenna.

All of the required components can be obtained from eBay sellers for about
$10.

The correct Broadcom card is a 4318, and the description says it works in
Dell and other laptops EXCEPT for IBM laptops.

(Perhaps IBM laptops of that vintage were already using PCI-e or
Mini-PCI-e cards which Broadcom also makes and some of which may be used
in certain desktop and netbook Hacks).



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Re: What form factor is the Airport Extreme card?

2011-03-14 Thread Jeffrey Engle

On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:55 AM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote:

 
 Just curious here, is the Airport extreme card a mini-pci card? will it
 fit into a mini-pci slot? has anybody tried this?
 
 The Broadcom cards which are sold for use in Dell laptops are indeed
 Mini-PCI cards.
 
 For use in a desktop Mac, you would also use a Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter
 card, one which also included an R-RMC connector and cable, and an R-SMC
 antenna.

 
 All of the required components can be obtained from eBay sellers for about
 $10.
 
 The correct Broadcom card is a 4318, and the description says it works in
 Dell and other laptops EXCEPT for IBM laptops.
 
 (Perhaps IBM laptops of that vintage were already using PCI-e or
 Mini-PCI-e cards which Broadcom also makes and some of which may be used
 in certain desktop and netbook Hacks).


Peter, in another post I asked if you would/could send me those ebay links? If 
it's not too much trouble that is:-) Jeff

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Re: What form factor is the Airport Extreme card?

2011-03-14 Thread peterhaas

 Peter, in another post I asked if you would/could send me those ebay
 links? If it's not too much trouble that is:-) Jeff

I did, but I'll do it again.

1) the Broadcom-licensed 4318 Mini-PCI card itself (made in China under
license from Broadcom, and generally sold to Dell and many other laptop
manufacturers EXCEPT IBM) ...

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Broadcom-wireless-wifi-B-G-mini-PCI-card-BCM4318-/260726618089

2) the generic Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter complete with R-SMC antenna
connector and cable and antenna ...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mini-PCI-PCI-Converter-Adapter-Wireless-Card-Antenna-/270564968219

Often times, the cheapest solution is separate Mini-PCI card,
Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter and antenna as three separate items.

I use the Buy-It-Now flag and also the sort by lowest price including
shipping flag for my searches.

Broadcom only licenses the design and it sells the actual manufacturer the
4318 chip, hence it is conceivable that there are visible differences.
(Each separate manufacturer will, therefore, have its own PCI vendor code
and its own block of MAC addresses, but these differences are of no
practical impact on the end-user).

The key to Airport Extreme compatibility appears to me to be the statement
that the 4318 card is intended for Dell and other laptops, but not for IBM
laptops.

There may be antenna connector differences in an IBM unit, or there could
be other differences.

Of all the many cards which I have purchased from different sellers, but
using the same description, none was not immediately recognized as Airport
Extreme-compatible, and I never had a DOA.

In fact, all such cards appeared to be brand-new, even if the description
stated that the cards were used.

All claimed to be tested, and all were shipped in sealed, static-free bags.

Note: there are apparently no low profile adapter cards, even though the
combination of the Mini-PCI card and the Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter card is
no taller than a low profile PCI card.

Note also that a standard profile bracket has a lot of room on the upper
portion of the bracket where one might choose to mount an iSATA-to-eSATA
adapter cable, or another type of adapter cable, thereby saving one card
position.



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Re: What form factor is the Airport Extreme card?

2011-03-14 Thread Jeffrey Engle

On Mar 14, 2011, at 11:35 AM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote:

 
 Peter, in another post I asked if you would/could send me those ebay
 links? If it's not too much trouble that is:-) Jeff
 
 I did, but I'll do it again.
 
 1) the Broadcom-licensed 4318 Mini-PCI card itself (made in China under
 license from Broadcom, and generally sold to Dell and many other laptop
 manufacturers EXCEPT IBM) ...
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Broadcom-wireless-wifi-B-G-mini-PCI-card-BCM4318-/260726618089
 
 2) the generic Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter complete with R-SMC antenna
 connector and cable and antenna ...
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/Mini-PCI-PCI-Converter-Adapter-Wireless-Card-Antenna-/270564968219



Thanks a bunch! Jeff

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Re: What form factor is the Airport Extreme card?

2011-03-14 Thread peterhaas

 http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Broadcom-wireless-wifi-B-G-mini-PCI-card-BCM4318-/260726618089

For example, this card's MAC address begins 00179E (you can read that on
the back of the card).

This indicates that Sirit Inc actually made the card.

One clue to the widespread use of this very same design, by many
manufacturers, is the indicia T60H09 in the upper left-hand corner of the
card. All cards appears to have this silk-screened onto them, but there
could be others.

These cards all have two antenna terminals, which is common for laptop and
netbook cards.

In practice, only the MAIN/J1 terminal is used, and the AUX/J2 terminal is
ignored.

There are Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter cards which have two and even three
internal cables, and sometimes two and even three external antennas, but
these are of no benefit on a Broadcom 4318 card.



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