Re: Which version of iLife?
Hi Bill. I'm surprised anyone can import a two-hour movie into iMovie and edit it. Anytime I even tried one hour projects (iMovie 4 thru 6), by the time the project got that long the video and audio were coming unglued from each other and the program was getting so sluggish and buggy it was hard to continue. Switching to Final Cut Express was a tremendous relief despite the steep learning curve, and the increase in the quality of the video productions and the ease of creating them are incomparable. iMovie is a mug's game, in my opinion strictly for amateurs doing short children's birthday videos or recording vacations for family and friends. For any kind of serious video production, dump iMovie fast and get any version of Final Cut, learn to use it, and you'll wonder how you ever put up with iMovie. Final Cut is confusing at first and not easy to master, but Tom Wolsky, the author of several tutorial books on Final Cut, is among many helpful people in the Apple Final Cut Express forum (here: http://tinyurl.com/69jmgs) who answer newbie questions fast when you're learning. When I bought Final Cut Express (for $300) I also got one of Wolsky's tutorial books with its DVD (here: http://tinyurl.com/ yahht27), and Helmut Koble's Final Cut Express for Dummies (here: http://tinyurl.com/ydt4t9u) and learned the program on the Mac with the books in my lap and a Safari bookmark to the Apple FCE forum. If you can get FCE for only $100 now, then there is no excuse not to dump iMovie and get serious about video production. Final Cut (both Express and Pro) outputs as an ordinary QuickTime movie that can simply be dropped into iDVD like any iMovie production (I'm using iDVD 7 and Toast 6 with OS 10.5.6 on a G5 2.0) and I just modify any of the stock iDVD templates to suit me, dropping in my own background pictures and music and then burning the iDVD project within the computer as a disk image that can be stored on a hard drive and used to make real DVDs. If I'm converting VHS or old Hi8 tapes, or importing a commercial movie, I feed them through a Canopus ADVC 300 into Final Cut, where editing and adding in scene selections is a breeze. Before I got the G5 I was doing all my Final Cut Express work quite easily on a QS 2002 dual 1G (I only got the G5 because I moved up to Final Cut Pro 5 and it wouldn't run on the G4). Some of the productions I made with FCE on the G4, which would have been quite impossible to do in iMovie, I put up on YouTube, here: http:// tinyurl.com/6xdymg or http://tinyurl.com/6e698m. Check those out and see if you could even begin to make such videos with iMovie. Once again, my advice is to chuck iMovie without delay and get Final Cut Express (which has most of the capabilities of Final Cut Pro) and you'll never look back, except with amazement that you ever put up with the frustrations and limitations of that stupid iMovie. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Which version of iLife?
On Mar 13, 2010, at 7:53 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: I guess if I could find FCE for $100, I'd go with that ... then I would need something to compress and make the DVD from FCEs output? What would that be? DVD Studio Pro or iDVD; possibly other DVD authoring programs, too. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Which version of iLife?
I'm running off 2 G4s: QS 2002 Dual 1GHz and a DA Dual 533MHz. Each has OS X 10.5.8 and 10.4.11. I'm doing simple VHS to DVD work, using a canopus ADVC300. I have iDVD 4 and 5 along with iMovie HD 4 and 5. (By the way, Is that iLife 5 and 6?) iDVD 5 doesn't have sufficient output size to accommodate my 120 minutes VHS tapes, and doesn't seem to recognize Dual Layer DVD output. iMovie 5.0.2 seems to work ok, and sends everything I need to iDVD ... just iDVD falls short of putting out the lengthy ones ... for the large ones, can't even create a DIsk Image and use Disk Utility or Toast 6 ... Any suggestions? Since iLife 09 shows departures from PPC machines (although I will be able to hack the iMovie back into commission: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20090130074400511 ), what else am I looking at by going to 09? Should I seek other, earlier versions? Not expect much support for my PPCs, if and when iLive X comes out? Steer clear of '08? Feel this comes under G3-G5 list ... maybe discussing Intel-departure fears ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Which version of iLife?
Bill, Would appreciate info (off list) concerning Steer clear of '08?. I have an Intel iMac. Thank you On Mar 13, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Steer clear of '08? John Callahan jcalla...@stny.rr.com If there are no dogs in Heaven, when I die I want to go where they went.ยจ --Will Rogers extreme positive = (ybya2) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Which version of iLife?
On Mar 13, 2010, at 4:01 PM, John Callahan wrote: Bill, Would appreciate info (off list) concerning Steer clear of '08?. I have an Intel iMac. Thank you On Mar 13, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Steer clear of '08? Just the argument that so many bells and whistles had been dropped from iMovie 8, that Apple put iMovie 6 out on their site for awhile, as a free download: http://www.macworld.com/article/138476/2009/01/goodbye_imovie6.html This article says iMovie 9 brings things back ... so I believe I'll try to use iLife 9 ... I think that's the way the numbers go ... or was it iMovie (n-1) comes from iLife n ??? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Which version of iLife?
Here's a nice video showing off some of the features of iMovie 9 ... just wondering about me being on a PPC G4, non-Intel Mac: http://tecnotur.us/Randy/Randy_Ubillos-iMovie_09.html Any special eBay offers to stay away from? There appears to be several 1/2 price offers out there. I guess none could be for an eMac (gray disks if the past) ... but what about specials coming from machine specific ones of todays Macs? like the iMac? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Which version of iLife?
On Mar 13, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Just the argument that so many bells and whistles had been dropped from iMovie 8, that Apple put iMovie 6 out on their site for awhile, as a free download: http://www.macworld.com/article/138476/2009/01/goodbye_imovie6.html Sort of. The version of IM6 was actually the HD version; HD capabilities were dropped for IM8. iMovie 8 was a complete, ground-up, rewrite of the program, because iMovie had lots of bells and whistles, but they were all kinda kludged in, and the duct tape and baling wire was starting to show. (also iMovie always had serious issues around things like keeping video and audio in sync; and it got worse the more you did in any given project.) At the same time Apple brought out iMovie 8, they also dropped the price of Final Cut Express to $100, and FCE beats any version of iMovie for editing. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Which version of iLife?
On Mar 13, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 13, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Just the argument that so many bells and whistles had been dropped from iMovie 8, that Apple put iMovie 6 out on their site for awhile, as a free download: http://www.macworld.com/article/138476/2009/01/goodbye_imovie6.html Sort of. The version of IM6 was actually the HD version; HD capabilities were dropped for IM8. iMovie 8 was a complete, ground-up, rewrite of the program, because iMovie had lots of bells and whistles, but they were all kinda kludged in, and the duct tape and baling wire was starting to show. (also iMovie always had serious issues around things like keeping video and audio in sync; and it got worse the more you did in any given project.) At the same time Apple brought out iMovie 8, they also dropped the price of Final Cut Express to $100, and FCE beats any version of iMovie for editing. I guess if I could find FCE for $100, I'd go with that ... then I would need something to compress and make the DVD from FCEs output? What would that be? Or does FCE also encode to DVD what it produces? That would be like using iMovie and then iDVD ... I'll continue to read up on it ... seems like a lot of info to wade through to decide what to buy ... then they throw in moving towards Intel only ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
