Re: Which would be the better Mac?

2011-03-18 Thread Jonas Ulrich
Good choice. You can also put a processor in that DA from a Quicksilver. The
video card is upgradable as well. Also, some of those eMacs didn't have very
good displays, especially for what you will use it for.

-Jonas

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Re: Which would be the better Mac?

2011-03-17 Thread Daniel Stewart
Well I appreciate all the advice.  I have a lot more to think about
now.  What got me started on all this was the fact that my Blueberry
Apple Studio Display CRT(the one that went with the Power Mac G3 BW)
is no more and I thought I might be able to get what seemed at least
on the surface a faster Mac for what I would pay for a new monitor and
the whole computer would take up as much room as my old monitor did
all by itself freeing up some space.  I was also reading an article on
LEM about upgrading the Emac with external peripherals and it got me
thinking.  With firewire external peripherals would I really miss USB
2.0?  I could connect a firewire 400 external drive with 1TB easily
and the difference in maxing out the RAM is 1GB on the Emac and 1.5
GBs on the DA.  Plus I would have to spend nearly as much to get my DA
up to snuff.  I was also thinking with the purchase of the Emac I
could break even selling the DA which would be nice.  I guess I have
plenty to think about.

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Valter Prahlad
valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it wrote:
 Il giorno 16-03-2011 6:18, Scotty ha scritto:

 I have a Power Mac
 Digital Audio 733mhz with 512 MB of RAM and I have just had the
 opportunity to purchase a 1.0Ghz Emac all in one.   I am just
 wondering which computer would be more effective for my needs.

 I'd stay with the G4 DA, investing the money into upgrades.
 First, memory: 1GB Ram should be enough.
 Second, maybe, a processor upgrade; I think you could find something cheap
 on eBay.

 I have a G4 DA as well, originally 667 MHz, now with 1GB Ram and a 1.4 GHz
 CPU upgrade. I'm using it professionally for DTP, with Adobe CS3... so it's
 still a very good machine, being born in 2001. :-)

 Another advantage of having a desktop unit, you can easily upgrade its
 components: apart from Ram, I changed several HDs, added a GeForce 4 video
 card and USB2 card, etc. (you can't do most of that with an eMac).

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Re: Which would be the better Mac?

2011-03-17 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 17-03-2011 9:29, Daniel Stewart ha scritto:

 I thought I might be able to get what seemed at least
 on the surface a faster Mac
Yes... in part.
Because the G4 DA has more cache:
- iMac 1GHz: 256KB L2
- G4 DA 733MHz: 1MB L2, 1MB L3

Besides, you could have (or get) a faster video card in the G4.
In the end, I think the average speed wouldn't differ much.

 With firewire external peripherals would I really miss USB 2.0?
You would, only if you have to connect that peripheral to a PC with USB
only. If you plan to use it just with Macs, you're fine.

 I was also thinking with the purchase of the Emac I
 could break even selling the DA which would be nice.
Only you can value the money... :-)
If you don't plan to upgrade much (a big plus on the G4), you could go for
the eMac.

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Re: Which would be the better Mac?

2011-03-17 Thread Daniel Stewart
Thanks everyone for your input and wonderful advice.  So I have
decided to keep my DA 733mhz Power Mac which I got for a steal btw.
I got it used for $25 because it had no HDD and had only 256MBs of
RAM.  I got it to it's current state with spare parts around home.  I
will save up for a 512 MB stick of RAM or two and forget the Emac.  I
also found someone selling an identical Blueberry G3 monitor to the
one I needed to replace. :-)   I love those monitors.  They are big
and weight a ton but they have better picture quality then most
midrange LCDs.

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Valter Prahlad
valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it wrote:
 Il giorno 17-03-2011 9:29, Daniel Stewart ha scritto:

 I thought I might be able to get what seemed at least
 on the surface a faster Mac
 Yes... in part.
 Because the G4 DA has more cache:
 - iMac 1GHz: 256KB L2
 - G4 DA 733MHz: 1MB L2, 1MB L3

 Besides, you could have (or get) a faster video card in the G4.
 In the end, I think the average speed wouldn't differ much.

 With firewire external peripherals would I really miss USB 2.0?
 You would, only if you have to connect that peripheral to a PC with USB
 only. If you plan to use it just with Macs, you're fine.

 I was also thinking with the purchase of the Emac I
 could break even selling the DA which would be nice.
 Only you can value the money... :-)
 If you don't plan to upgrade much (a big plus on the G4), you could go for
 the eMac.

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Re: Which would be the better Mac?

2011-03-16 Thread skinnie
Unless the E-mac was like 50eur or so I would preffer to invest in the
powermac...
512Mb PC133 ram as said is dirt cheap this days...and will give you a
nice boost vs the 512Mb that you have now...
If you need some advice on upgrades, read the powerpc faq that I made
on Macrumors http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1091765 it
may help you :D
Emacs are cool because of the size and the All in one form, but if
anything goes wrong you will have much more trouble fixing it..

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Re: Which would be the better Mac?

2011-03-16 Thread Miguel Garcia-Gell
Mac are made for Graphics and Video. My first was a BW G3 400mghz and G4 AD 
733mghz was next for Video Edition...every one with better resault  My Sony 
Vaio 1.7mghz with 2gb of ram. But try The MDD G4 series...still can kick some 
PC's 

On Mar 16, 2011, at 1:18 AM, Scotty daniel.stewart...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I am an amateur photographer. I use my Mac for photo editing with Gimp
 and iPhoto 08 as well as for basic computer use like word processing,
 surfing, listening to music and watching movies  I have a Power Mac
 Digital Audio 733mhz with 512 MB of RAM and I have just had the
 opportunity to purchase a 1.0Ghz Emac all in one.   I am just
 wondering which computer would be more effective for my needs.  The
 clock speed of my DA is lower but it also has more onchip cache memory
 so I am wondering if the higher clock speed on the Emac will actually
 translate into improved performance.  Another appealing pro for the
 Emac would be for space.  my office is kind of small so being able to
 fit the whole computer on my desk is appealing.  After all the Emac is
 about the same size as my G3 Studio display CRT that I have the DA
 hooked up to.
 
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Re: Which would be the better Mac?

2011-03-16 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 16-03-2011 6:18, Scotty ha scritto:

 I have a Power Mac
 Digital Audio 733mhz with 512 MB of RAM and I have just had the
 opportunity to purchase a 1.0Ghz Emac all in one.   I am just
 wondering which computer would be more effective for my needs.

I'd stay with the G4 DA, investing the money into upgrades.
First, memory: 1GB Ram should be enough.
Second, maybe, a processor upgrade; I think you could find something cheap
on eBay.

I have a G4 DA as well, originally 667 MHz, now with 1GB Ram and a 1.4 GHz
CPU upgrade. I'm using it professionally for DTP, with Adobe CS3... so it's
still a very good machine, being born in 2001. :-)

Another advantage of having a desktop unit, you can easily upgrade its
components: apart from Ram, I changed several HDs, added a GeForce 4 video
card and USB2 card, etc. (you can't do most of that with an eMac).

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Re: Which would be the better Mac?

2011-03-15 Thread Mel
I can't answer your question as to which CPU would be better but are you not 
aware that SDRAM  512 RAM 133 buss speed is very inexpensive for the DA - and 
can be bought for between $10.00 and $15.00 a stick?  Try the LEM list.

Mel

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From: Scotty daniel.stewart...@gmail.com
Subject: Which would be the better Mac?
To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 10:18 PM

Hi,

I am an amateur photographer. I use my Mac for photo editing with Gimp
and iPhoto 08 as well as for basic computer use like word processing,
surfing, listening to music and watching movies  I have a Power Mac
Digital Audio 733mhz with 512 MB of RAM and I have just had the
opportunity to purchase a 1.0Ghz Emac all in one.   I am just
wondering which computer would be more effective for my needs.  The
clock speed of my DA is lower but it also has more onchip cache memory
so I am wondering if the higher clock speed on the Emac will actually
translate into improved performance.  Another appealing pro for the
Emac would be for space.  my office is kind of small so being able to
fit the whole computer on my desk is appealing.  After all the Emac is
about the same size as my G3 Studio display CRT that I have the DA
hooked up to.

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