Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.

[sam]

SUCCESS! The TRENDnet was/is "plug and play"!
Many, Many thanks.
Happily reporting to you from the ol Sawtooth,
Sam

On Jul 13, 10:18 pm, sam  wrote:
> I did some diggin around today and after reading tons of posts,
> decided on the TRENDnet Gigabit PCI adapter. It supposedly works
> seemlessly with the sawtooth on 10.4.11. I figure if it doesn't I'll
> only be out $14.69(new in box-that included shipping).
>
> I'm wondering what NCI stands for?
>
> Thank you to everyone who has chimed in here to assist me. I really
> appreciate all of your input!
>
> Sam
>
> On Jul 12, 11:46 pm, sam  wrote:
>
> > G4 Sawtooth - 400, OS 10.4.8
>
> > We had a massive lightning storm last night and after reading a bunch
> > of post and trying out 3 different cables I've come to the conclusion
> > that I zapped my ethernet port. I'm a little miffed about this as I
> > DID spend the money on good surge protectors. On the other hand I'm
> > thankful that everything else seems to be working fine. (and I have a
> > PB with which I can still access the net)
>
> > I opened up the machine and saw that the ethernet port is built right
> > into the board so this is not a quick fix situation. Nor a cheap fix.
>
> > I've decided to try the apple USB ethernet adapter. But from what I
> > understand it will only work on OS 10.5.2. How can I upgrade without
> > the internet connection? And can my Sawtooth handle 10.5.2? Is there
> > some way to connect my old G4 titanium PB (10.4.11/500) to the
> > sawtooth and transfer the files?
>
> > Any help or advise is greatly appreciated.
>
> > Thanks much,
> > Sam
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Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:18 PM, sam wrote:

>
> I did some diggin around today and after reading tons of posts,
> decided on the TRENDnet Gigabit PCI adapter. It supposedly works
> seemlessly with the sawtooth on 10.4.11. I figure if it doesn't I'll
> only be out $14.69(new in box-that included shipping).
That's a good one.
>
> I'm wondering what NCI stands for?

NIC == Network Interface Card.

A good source for all knowledge acronymial is this :

, although it can be overwhelming,  
there are 68 definitions for NIC, although it's a pretty good bet that  
in this forum we're not talking about Nicaraugua, New In Chess or  
Nursing Interventions Classification. :-)


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Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.

[sam]

Yup. that makes sense! Thanks Ralph.
Sam

On Jul 13, 10:20 pm, Ralph Green  wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 19:11 -0700, sam wrote:
> > Can you tell me what NIC stands for?
>
>  Network Interface Card
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Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.

[sam]

I did some diggin around today and after reading tons of posts,
decided on the TRENDnet Gigabit PCI adapter. It supposedly works
seemlessly with the sawtooth on 10.4.11. I figure if it doesn't I'll
only be out $14.69(new in box-that included shipping).

I'm wondering what NCI stands for?

Thank you to everyone who has chimed in here to assist me. I really
appreciate all of your input!

Sam


On Jul 12, 11:46 pm, sam  wrote:
> G4 Sawtooth - 400, OS 10.4.8
>
> We had a massive lightning storm last night and after reading a bunch
> of post and trying out 3 different cables I've come to the conclusion
> that I zapped my ethernet port. I'm a little miffed about this as I
> DID spend the money on good surge protectors. On the other hand I'm
> thankful that everything else seems to be working fine. (and I have a
> PB with which I can still access the net)
>
> I opened up the machine and saw that the ethernet port is built right
> into the board so this is not a quick fix situation. Nor a cheap fix.
>
> I've decided to try the apple USB ethernet adapter. But from what I
> understand it will only work on OS 10.5.2. How can I upgrade without
> the internet connection? And can my Sawtooth handle 10.5.2? Is there
> some way to connect my old G4 titanium PB (10.4.11/500) to the
> sawtooth and transfer the files?
>
> Any help or advise is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks much,
> Sam
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Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.

[Ralph Green]

On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 19:11 -0700, sam wrote:
> Can you tell me what NIC stands for?
 Network Interface Card



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Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.

[sam]

Can you tell me what NIC stands for?

On Jul 13, 1:05 pm, Wayne Garrett  wrote:
> Should work.  My old B+W G3 worked with a PCI NIC installed with no drivers.
>
> On 7/13/09, sam  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Thank you.
> > This will install in one of the open slots?
>
> > Sam
>
> > On Jul 13, 2:28 am, Wayne Garrett  wrote:
> >> Get a cheap Realtek NIC. PCI
>
> >> On 7/12/09, sam  wrote:
>
> >> > G4 Sawtooth - 400, OS 10.4.8
>
> >> > We had a massive lightning storm last night and after reading a bunch
> >> > of post and trying out 3 different cables I've come to the conclusion
> >> > that I zapped my ethernet port. I'm a little miffed about this as I
> >> > DID spend the money on good surge protectors. On the other hand I'm
> >> > thankful that everything else seems to be working fine. (and I have a
> >> > PB with which I can still access the net)
>
> >> > I opened up the machine and saw that the ethernet port is built right
> >> > into the board so this is not a quick fix situation. Nor a cheap fix.
>
> >> > I've decided to try the apple USB ethernet adapter. But from what I
> >> > understand it will only work on OS 10.5.2. How can I upgrade without
> >> > the internet connection? And can my Sawtooth handle 10.5.2? Is there
> >> > some way to connect my old G4 titanium PB (10.4.11/500) to the
> >> > sawtooth and transfer the files?
>
> >> > Any help or advise is greatly appreciated.
>
> >> > Thanks much,
> >> > Sam
>
> >> --
> >> Sent from my mobile device
>
> --
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Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.

[sam]

No problem. Thanks, Sam

On Jul 13, 3:14 pm, Bill Connelly  wrote:
> On Jul 13, 2009, at 3:06 PM, nestami...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > sam wrote:
>
> >> Apple Hardware Test? I am not familiar with this. Could you please
> >> tell me where I can find this?
>
> > Sam, apple Hardware tests are actually CDs that you run on the  
> > machine to test its part. I think you can find them on Apple's site,  
> > I'm not sure though. Each CD is used for the type of machine you  
> > want to run it on. There are some folks here who have tons of these  
> > CDs. They've basically collected them over the years as Apple  
> > released machines. Goodluck getting them to share.
>
> Well my immediate knowledge was limited, and according to 
> MacTracker:http://www.mactracker.ca/
>
> There was no AHT app for the Sawtooth. It started with the next level  
> G4.
>
> Apologies, bad assumption on my part.
>
> I would just test things with a new NIC PCI card and see if things  
> appear to be functioning. May be OK. Good luck.
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Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.

[ktilford1]

On Jul 12, 2009, at 11:57 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

>What ever you do, DON'T GET A USB ETHERNET CARD. it will be very very slow. 
>also it is much >cheaper to get a pci ethernet card. you can probably just 
>search pci ethernet card on ebay. I know >someone who just installed one and 
>it works great.

If you have a USB 2.0 PCI card then USB isn't so slow. You can get drivers for 
common USB ethernet adapters here, as well as see graphs of the speeds you 
should expect:



If you use much USB, getting a USB 2.0 card is probably a good idea.  Jonas is 
correct, a PCI ethernet card is a better solution, but if you already have USB 
2.0 or need it, and have access to a USB ethernet adapter it can work 
reasonably well.


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Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.

[Bill Connelly]

On Jul 13, 2009, at 3:06 PM, nestami...@gmail.com wrote:

> sam wrote:
>>
>> Apple Hardware Test? I am not familiar with this. Could you please
>> tell me where I can find this?
>>

> Sam, apple Hardware tests are actually CDs that you run on the  
> machine to test its part. I think you can find them on Apple's site,  
> I'm not sure though. Each CD is used for the type of machine you  
> want to run it on. There are some folks here who have tons of these  
> CDs. They've basically collected them over the years as Apple  
> released machines. Goodluck getting them to share.

Well my immediate knowledge was limited, and according to MacTracker:
http://www.mactracker.ca/

There was no AHT app for the Sawtooth. It started with the next level  
G4.

Apologies, bad assumption on my part.

I would just test things with a new NIC PCI card and see if things  
appear to be functioning. May be OK. Good luck.

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Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.

[nestami...@gmail.com]

sam wrote:
> Apple Hardware Test? I am not familiar with this. Could you please
> tell me where I can find this?
>
> ...now that I am alarmed!
>
> I'm hoping to get another year out of this machine for as little as
> possible before I make the move to the new intel proc.
>
> Thanks,
> Sam
>
> On Jul 13, 11:58 am, Bill Connelly  wrote:
>   
>> Don't want to alarm you, but I had a similar experience with  
>> lightening that knocked out my ethernet port in my Quicksilver 2002  
>> Dual 1GHz (and a Nikon 5000Ed scanner ...) over the ethernet network  
>> at home ...
>>
>> It also messed up the PCI slots and/or USB channel. Didn't show up  
>> right away.
>>
>> Have you run Apple Hardware Test to see if other things appear OK?
>>
>> I used a Rosewill 10/100/1000 in my PCI slot successfully, but ,  
>> eventually replaced the mobo. I think this is the 
>> one:http://www.rosewill.com/products/989/productDetail.htm
>>
>> It might be more advisable to replace the mobo, getting a new ethernet  
>> port, if you can find one for $40-50. My QS 2002 was $45.
>>
>> I also used an Airlink 101 USB 2 wireless for awhile ... 54Mbs over  
>> USB 2.
>> 
> >
>
>   
Sam, apple Hardware tests are actually CDs that you run on the machine 
to test its part. I think you can find them on Apple's site, I'm not 
sure though. Each CD is used for the type of machine you want to run it 
on. There are some folks here who have tons of these CDs. They've 
basically collected them over the years as Apple released machines. 
Goodluck getting them to share.

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Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.

[sam]

Apple Hardware Test? I am not familiar with this. Could you please
tell me where I can find this?

...now that I am alarmed!

I'm hoping to get another year out of this machine for as little as
possible before I make the move to the new intel proc.

Thanks,
Sam

On Jul 13, 11:58 am, Bill Connelly  wrote:
> Don't want to alarm you, but I had a similar experience with  
> lightening that knocked out my ethernet port in my Quicksilver 2002  
> Dual 1GHz (and a Nikon 5000Ed scanner ...) over the ethernet network  
> at home ...
>
> It also messed up the PCI slots and/or USB channel. Didn't show up  
> right away.
>
> Have you run Apple Hardware Test to see if other things appear OK?
>
> I used a Rosewill 10/100/1000 in my PCI slot successfully, but ,  
> eventually replaced the mobo. I think this is the 
> one:http://www.rosewill.com/products/989/productDetail.htm
>
> It might be more advisable to replace the mobo, getting a new ethernet  
> port, if you can find one for $40-50. My QS 2002 was $45.
>
> I also used an Airlink 101 USB 2 wireless for awhile ... 54Mbs over  
> USB 2.
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Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.

[Wayne Garrett]

Should work.  My old B+W G3 worked with a PCI NIC installed with no drivers.

On 7/13/09, sam  wrote:
>
> Thank you.
> This will install in one of the open slots?
>
> Sam
>
> On Jul 13, 2:28 am, Wayne Garrett  wrote:
>> Get a cheap Realtek NIC. PCI
>>
>> On 7/12/09, sam  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > G4 Sawtooth - 400, OS 10.4.8
>>
>> > We had a massive lightning storm last night and after reading a bunch
>> > of post and trying out 3 different cables I've come to the conclusion
>> > that I zapped my ethernet port. I'm a little miffed about this as I
>> > DID spend the money on good surge protectors. On the other hand I'm
>> > thankful that everything else seems to be working fine. (and I have a
>> > PB with which I can still access the net)
>>
>> > I opened up the machine and saw that the ethernet port is built right
>> > into the board so this is not a quick fix situation. Nor a cheap fix.
>>
>> > I've decided to try the apple USB ethernet adapter. But from what I
>> > understand it will only work on OS 10.5.2. How can I upgrade without
>> > the internet connection? And can my Sawtooth handle 10.5.2? Is there
>> > some way to connect my old G4 titanium PB (10.4.11/500) to the
>> > sawtooth and transfer the files?
>>
>> > Any help or advise is greatly appreciated.
>>
>> > Thanks much,
>> > Sam
>>
>> --
>> Sent from my mobile device
> >
>

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Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.

[Bill Connelly]

Don't want to alarm you, but I had a similar experience with  
lightening that knocked out my ethernet port in my Quicksilver 2002  
Dual 1GHz (and a Nikon 5000Ed scanner ...) over the ethernet network  
at home ...

It also messed up the PCI slots and/or USB channel. Didn't show up  
right away.

Have you run Apple Hardware Test to see if other things appear OK?

I used a Rosewill 10/100/1000 in my PCI slot successfully, but ,  
eventually replaced the mobo. I think this is the one:
http://www.rosewill.com/products/989/productDetail.htm

It might be more advisable to replace the mobo, getting a new ethernet  
port, if you can find one for $40-50. My QS 2002 was $45.

I also used an Airlink 101 USB 2 wireless for awhile ... 54Mbs over  
USB 2.

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Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.

[sam]

Thank you.
This will install in one of the open slots?

Sam

On Jul 13, 2:28 am, Wayne Garrett  wrote:
> Get a cheap Realtek NIC. PCI
>
> On 7/12/09, sam  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > G4 Sawtooth - 400, OS 10.4.8
>
> > We had a massive lightning storm last night and after reading a bunch
> > of post and trying out 3 different cables I've come to the conclusion
> > that I zapped my ethernet port. I'm a little miffed about this as I
> > DID spend the money on good surge protectors. On the other hand I'm
> > thankful that everything else seems to be working fine. (and I have a
> > PB with which I can still access the net)
>
> > I opened up the machine and saw that the ethernet port is built right
> > into the board so this is not a quick fix situation. Nor a cheap fix.
>
> > I've decided to try the apple USB ethernet adapter. But from what I
> > understand it will only work on OS 10.5.2. How can I upgrade without
> > the internet connection? And can my Sawtooth handle 10.5.2? Is there
> > some way to connect my old G4 titanium PB (10.4.11/500) to the
> > sawtooth and transfer the files?
>
> > Any help or advise is greatly appreciated.
>
> > Thanks much,
> > Sam
>
> --
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Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.

[sam]

Thank you - I will do that. I had no idea that they were in existence.
I'm a bit green when it comes to the mechanics of the HD.

On Jul 13, 12:57 am, Jonas Ulrich  wrote:
> What ever you do, DON'T GET A USB ETHERNET CARD. it will be very very slow.
> also it is much cheaper to get a pci ethernet card. you can probably just
> search pci ethernet card on ebay. I know someone who just installed one and
> it works great.
> -Jonas
>
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 8:46 PM, sam  wrote:
>
> > G4 Sawtooth - 400, OS 10.4.8
>
> > We had a massive lightning storm last night and after reading a bunch
> > of post and trying out 3 different cables I've come to the conclusion
> > that I zapped my ethernet port. I'm a little miffed about this as I
> > DID spend the money on good surge protectors. On the other hand I'm
> > thankful that everything else seems to be working fine. (and I have a
> > PB with which I can still access the net)
>
> > I opened up the machine and saw that the ethernet port is built right
> > into the board so this is not a quick fix situation. Nor a cheap fix.
>
> > I've decided to try the apple USB ethernet adapter. But from what I
> > understand it will only work on OS 10.5.2. How can I upgrade without
> > the internet connection? And can my Sawtooth handle 10.5.2? Is there
> > some way to connect my old G4 titanium PB (10.4.11/500) to the
> > sawtooth and transfer the files?
>
> > Any help or advise is greatly appreciated.
>
> > Thanks much,
> > Sam
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Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.

[Wayne Garrett]

Get a cheap Realtek NIC. PCI

On 7/12/09, sam  wrote:
>
> G4 Sawtooth - 400, OS 10.4.8
>
> We had a massive lightning storm last night and after reading a bunch
> of post and trying out 3 different cables I've come to the conclusion
> that I zapped my ethernet port. I'm a little miffed about this as I
> DID spend the money on good surge protectors. On the other hand I'm
> thankful that everything else seems to be working fine. (and I have a
> PB with which I can still access the net)
>
> I opened up the machine and saw that the ethernet port is built right
> into the board so this is not a quick fix situation. Nor a cheap fix.
>
> I've decided to try the apple USB ethernet adapter. But from what I
> understand it will only work on OS 10.5.2. How can I upgrade without
> the internet connection? And can my Sawtooth handle 10.5.2? Is there
> some way to connect my old G4 titanium PB (10.4.11/500) to the
> sawtooth and transfer the files?
>
> Any help or advise is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks much,
> Sam
> >
>

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Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.

[Jonas Ulrich]

What ever you do, DON'T GET A USB ETHERNET CARD. it will be very very slow.
also it is much cheaper to get a pci ethernet card. you can probably just
search pci ethernet card on ebay. I know someone who just installed one and
it works great.
-Jonas

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 8:46 PM, sam  wrote:

>
> G4 Sawtooth - 400, OS 10.4.8
>
> We had a massive lightning storm last night and after reading a bunch
> of post and trying out 3 different cables I've come to the conclusion
> that I zapped my ethernet port. I'm a little miffed about this as I
> DID spend the money on good surge protectors. On the other hand I'm
> thankful that everything else seems to be working fine. (and I have a
> PB with which I can still access the net)
>
> I opened up the machine and saw that the ethernet port is built right
> into the board so this is not a quick fix situation. Nor a cheap fix.
>
> I've decided to try the apple USB ethernet adapter. But from what I
> understand it will only work on OS 10.5.2. How can I upgrade without
> the internet connection? And can my Sawtooth handle 10.5.2? Is there
> some way to connect my old G4 titanium PB (10.4.11/500) to the
> sawtooth and transfer the files?
>
> Any help or advise is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks much,
> Sam
> >
>

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ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.

[sam]

G4 Sawtooth - 400, OS 10.4.8

We had a massive lightning storm last night and after reading a bunch
of post and trying out 3 different cables I've come to the conclusion
that I zapped my ethernet port. I'm a little miffed about this as I
DID spend the money on good surge protectors. On the other hand I'm
thankful that everything else seems to be working fine. (and I have a
PB with which I can still access the net)

I opened up the machine and saw that the ethernet port is built right
into the board so this is not a quick fix situation. Nor a cheap fix.

I've decided to try the apple USB ethernet adapter. But from what I
understand it will only work on OS 10.5.2. How can I upgrade without
the internet connection? And can my Sawtooth handle 10.5.2? Is there
some way to connect my old G4 titanium PB (10.4.11/500) to the
sawtooth and transfer the files?

Any help or advise is greatly appreciated.

Thanks much,
Sam
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