Re: Card Reader
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Why would a 24x CD-ROM be a requirement for a USB 2.0 cardreader, this makes no sense. The speed requirement makes no sense (and no difference in all likelihood...), but these devices often have drivers for pre-windows 2000 operating systems enclosed on CD, so in that context having a CD drive is definitely a requirement. Shouldn't make a difference for the OP. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Card Reader
What you also need to remember is that if the memory card has been formatted in windows only. Some readers will not so it up in a mac enviroment. I have had this problem a few times with different types of cards. Billy. On 18 Jul 2010, at 13:11, Stephen Conrad wrote: Mac: Quicksilver G4 OS: OS X 10.4.11 I bought a Targus Universal 32 in 1 card reader/writer It says for Macs you need OS X 10.1.2+ and a CD-ROM 24x (Mine: Model: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B) I plugged it in on various USB ports and it never shows up (I put 2 different cards in it to test it and see neither one) It only mentions in the paperwork downloading drivers for Win98 It also says: No additional driver installation required for Windows MS, 2000, XP, Vista and Mac OSX v10.1.2 plus -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Card Reader
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 7:39 AM, william Bowles williambowle...@gmail.comwrote: What you also need to remember is that if the memory card has been formatted in windows only. Some readers will not so it up in a mac enviroment. I have had this problem a few times with different types of cards. Billy. One is a Compactflash Card FC-32M The other is a memory card for my Olympus Stylus 300 (Olympus xD-Picture Card Olympus said it should be seen by my Mac -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Card Reader
On Jul 18, 2010, at 8:11 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Mac: Quicksilver G4 OS: OS X 10.4.11 I bought a Targus Universal 32 in 1 card reader/writer It says for Macs you need OS X 10.1.2+ and a CD-ROM 24x (Mine: Model: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B) I plugged it in on various USB ports and it never shows up (I put 2 different cards in it to test it and see neither one) It only mentions in the paperwork downloading drivers for Win98 It also says: No additional driver installation required for Windows MS, 2000, XP, Vista and Mac OSX v10.1.2 plus Steve, Does the card reader show up in System Profiler under USB devices? How about in Disk Utility? That should let you know if it's really an OS problem or if perhaps you just bought a lemon. Isaac -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Card Reader
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Isaac Smith smith...@sprynet.com wrote: On Jul 18, 2010, at 8:11 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Mac: Quicksilver G4 OS: OS X 10.4.11 I bought a Targus Universal 32 in 1 card reader/writer It says for Macs you need OS X 10.1.2+ and a CD-ROM 24x (Mine: Model: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B) I plugged it in on various USB ports and it never shows up (I put 2 different cards in it to test it and see neither one) It only mentions in the paperwork downloading drivers for Win98 It also says: No additional driver installation required for Windows MS, 2000, XP, Vista and Mac OSX v10.1.2 plus Steve, Does the card reader show up in System Profiler under USB devices? How about in Disk Utility? That should let you know if it's really an OS problem or if perhaps you just bought a lemon. Isaac Here is what System Profiler says *Mass Storage Device:* Version: 1.00 Bus Power (mA): 100 Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec Manufacturer: Generic Product ID: 0x6366 Serial Number: 058F63666471 Vendor ID: 0x058f It is plugged into my KB (I have seen NO Low Power Warnings) When I try my other camera in the same port I see the Low Power Warning -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Card Reader
Here is what System Profiler says Mass Storage Device: Version:1.00 Bus Power (mA): 100 Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec Manufacturer: Generic Product ID: 0x6366 Serial Number: 058F63666471 Vendor ID: 0x058f So it looks like System Profiler does see it. That's a good sign for the functionality of the device itself. Something is definitely there. It is plugged into my KB (I have seen NO Low Power Warnings) When I try my other camera in the same port I see the Low Power Warning Have you tried plugging it any USB ports on the back of the tower? I've had drives not give a low power warning but not work in the keyboard USB port before. You might also try plugging it into another computer and seeing if it works there. Isaac -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Card Reader
On Jul 18, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Vendor ID: 0x058f When I Google 0x058f I immediately see Generic USB 2.0 cardreader which makes me think this device likely requires a USB 2.0 port to work? It would be worth the investment in a cheap USB 2.0 PCI card. Also, unless your keyboard is a newer USB 2.0 keyboard the ports on the keyboard will also be the slower USB 1.0 ports, so you'll need to attach the cardreader directly to the USB 2.0 PCI card ports or a USB 2.0 hub attached to this card. You can used the onboard USB 1.0 ports for your keyboard mouse or other USB 1.0 devices. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Card Reader
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:56 PM, onelucent oneluc...@mac.com wrote: I was thinking the same thing. Also, once you get into SD cards, some higher capacity or higher speeds ones will require later, higher-capacity readers. On Jul 18, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: When I Google 0x058f I immediately see Generic USB 2.0 cardreader which makes me think this device likely requires a USB 2.0 port to work? It would be worth the investment in a cheap USB 2.0 PCI card. Also, unless your keyboard is a newer USB 2.0 keyboard the ports on the keyboard will also be the slower USB 1.0 ports, so you'll need to attach the cardreader directly to the USB 2.0 PCI card ports or a USB 2.0 hub attached to this card. You can used the onboard USB 1.0 ports for your keyboard mouse or other USB 1.0 devices. I plugged it into a 4 Port USB 2.0 Hub It is plugged into a 4 Port USB Hub (Model F5U014-OE) which is plugged into the tower -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Card Reader
On Jul 18, 2010, at 10:45 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I plugged it into a 4 Port USB 2.0 Hub It is plugged into a 4 Port USB Hub (Model F5U014-OE) which is plugged into the tower. The ports on your G4 are USB 1.0 ports, so anything attached to them is by default USB 1.0. You need to buy a USB 2.0 PCI card so that you get 40x faster 480 Mbps USB 2.0 port instead of the built-in 12 Mbps USB 1.0 speed. Then attach your USB 2.0 hub to the USB 2.0 ports, and use the built-in 1.0 ports for your keyboard mouse which are USB 1.0 devices only and can't take advantage of USB 2.0 speed. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Card Reader
On 7/18/10 6:56 PM, onelucent wrote: I was thinking the same thing. Also, once you get into SD cards, some higher capacity or higher speeds ones will require later, higher-capacity readers. In one case I encountered where this was a problem the 4Gb SD card showed up in the older card reader but it couldn't be accessed beyond the 1Gb point. But other card readers could well not show the card at all as it seems in this case. The OP might try a smaller ( 1Gb card) as a test. On Jul 18, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: When I Google 0x058f I immediately see Generic USB 2.0 cardreader which makes me think this device likely requires a USB 2.0 port to work? It would be worth the investment in a cheap USB 2.0 PCI card. Also, unless your keyboard is a newer USB 2.0 keyboard the ports on the keyboard will also be the slower USB 1.0 ports, so you'll need to attach the cardreader directly to the USB 2.0 PCI card ports or a USB 2.0 hub attached to this card. You can used the onboard USB 1.0 ports for your keyboard mouse or other USB 1.0 devices. Generally speaking, USB 2.0 devices work with USB 1.x hosts but at the lower speed of course. The fact that the OPs device shows up in System Profiler tends to indicate that USB 1 vs 2 is NOT the issue. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Card Reader
On Jul 18, 2010, at 7:11 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I bought a Targus Universal 32 in 1 card reader/writer It says for Macs you need OS X 10.1.2+ and a CD-ROM 24x Why would a 24x CD-ROM be a requirement for a USB 2.0 cardreader, this makes no sense. If you look at this page, it appears that many of these cardreaders shipped with defective USB cables and if you replace the USB cable with a known good USB cable it might work: http://milo.com/tg-crd25 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Card Reader
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: On 7/18/10 6:56 PM, onelucent wrote: I was thinking the same thing. Also, once you get into SD cards, some higher capacity or higher speeds ones will require later, higher-capacity readers. In one case I encountered where this was a problem the 4Gb SD card showed up in the older card reader but it couldn't be accessed beyond the 1Gb point. But other card readers could well not show the card at all as it seems in this case. The OP might try a smaller ( 1Gb card) as a test. The one card is a Compactflash Card (FC-32M) The other is a 2GB xD Picture Card for my Olympus Stylus 300 digital camera (I have USB drives that are 2GB) According to the folks at Olympus I should have no problem seeing this card On Jul 18, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: When I Google 0x058f I immediately see Generic USB 2.0 cardreader which makes me think this device likely requires a USB 2.0 port to work? It would be worth the investment in a cheap USB 2.0 PCI card. Also, unless your keyboard is a newer USB 2.0 keyboard the ports on the keyboard will also be the slower USB 1.0 ports, so you'll need to attach the cardreader directly to the USB 2.0 PCI card ports or a USB 2.0 hub attached to this card. You can used the onboard USB 1.0 ports for your keyboard mouse or other USB 1.0 devices. Generally speaking, USB 2.0 devices work with USB 1.x hosts but at the lower speed of course. The fact that the OPs device shows up in System Profiler tends to indicate that USB 1 vs 2 is NOT the issue. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Card Reader
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jul 18, 2010, at 7:11 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I bought a Targus Universal 32 in 1 card reader/writer It says for Macs you need OS X 10.1.2+ and a CD-ROM 24x Why would a 24x CD-ROM be a requirement for a USB 2.0 cardreader, this makes no sense. If you look at this page, it appears that many of these cardreaders shipped with defective USB cables and if you replace the USB cable with a known good USB cable it might work: http://milo.com/tg-crd25 I tried the cable my one camera uses and still no cards show up -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
