Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, using VirtualBos as G5 emulator

2014-08-18 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Aug 8, 2014, at 9:36 PM, Mullin9 ddavidmul...@inbox.com wrote:

 How to run Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, 
 using VirtualBos as a PPC G5 emulator

You cannot. You can get it running in PearPC on a Windows VM in Virtualbox, but 
it's very limited in functionality, since you cannot (or at least I could not) 
ever get the virtual networking to work. 

Far better and simpler to find a used G5 to run it on...

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Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, using VirtualBos as G5 emulator

2014-08-18 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Aug 17, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Fabian Fang f...@mac.com wrote:

 On Aug 17, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:
 
 On Aug 8, 2014, at 11:36 PM, Mullin9 ddavidmul...@inbox.com wrote:
 
 How to run Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, 
 using VirtualBos as a PPC G5 emulator
 
 Why would anyone want to emulate a PPC G5 when the real Intel build of 
 10.4.11 is available?
 
 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL172 Mac OS X 10.4.11 Combo Update (Intel)
 
 
 The 2012 Mac mini came with OS 10.8.1 pre-installed.  I do not believe that 
 it will run 10.4.11 directly, which may be why the OP asked about emulation.

I think he was referring to running the intel version of 10.4 in a VM via 
VirtualBox, which is a pita in and of itself.

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Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, using VirtualBos as G5 emulator

2014-08-18 Thread James E. Therrault
...or maybe the latest Intel machine that will boot on Snow Leopard running 
Rossetta.

JT


On Aug 18, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

 
 On Aug 8, 2014, at 9:36 PM, Mullin9 ddavidmul...@inbox.com wrote:
 
 How to run Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, 
 using VirtualBos as a PPC G5 emulator
 
 You cannot. You can get it running in PearPC on a Windows VM in Virtualbox, 
 but it's very limited in functionality, since you cannot (or at least I could 
 not) ever get the virtual networking to work. 
 
 Far better and simpler to find a used G5 to run it on...
 

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Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, using VirtualBos as G5 emulator

2014-08-18 Thread Fabian Fang
On Aug 18, 2014, at 11:04 AM, James E. Therrault wrote:

 ...or maybe the latest Intel machine that will boot on Snow Leopard running 
 Rossetta.

In my message of yesterday, I already indicated that The 2012 Mac mini came 
with OS 10.8.1 pre-installed.  It will not boot on Snow Leopard.

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Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, using VirtualBos as G5 emulator

2014-08-18 Thread Kris Tilford
On Aug 18, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Fabian Fang f...@mac.com wrote:

 In my message of yesterday, I already indicated that The 2012 Mac mini came 
 with OS 10.8.1 pre-installed.  It will not boot on Snow Leopard.

I think from my hackintosh experience that this should be a fairly simple hack 
to enable older Mac OS X to boot. You'd need to edit one of the .plist files, 
perhaps the boot.plist or PlatformSupport.plist, to add in the newer Mac 
identification. Once you've done that, the problems would be newer hardware. 
These would require editing the info.plist files within similar older hardware 
kexts to hopefully enable support of the newer hardware. It would be a long 
shot, but I think there's a chance of it working. You'd need to start with a 
previously installed completely upgraded System disk, then mod the file for the 
Mac model and attempt boot with some boot flags, probably -x -v to start with. 
If it panics, note the kext that's causing the panic, and see if you can either 
find a newer kext, or modify an older one to support the newer hardware PID  
VID. This could be very problematic, and getting full functionality may be 
difficult or impossible. Finding a cheap or free older Mac would likely take 
less time and effort.

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Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, using VirtualBos as G5 emulator

2014-08-18 Thread Fabian Fang
On Aug 18, 2014, at 12:33 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

 On Aug 18, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Fabian Fang f...@mac.com wrote:
 
 In my message of yesterday, I already indicated that The 2012 Mac mini came 
 with OS 10.8.1 pre-installed.  It will not boot on Snow Leopard.

Since I wrote the above, James has written me privately, and I have responded 
to him:

A 2012 Mac mini, with OS 10.8 or higher, can be made to run OS 10.6.x through 
a Virtual Machine with Snow Leopard Server software within Parallels Desktop, 
or VM Fusion, or similar.  But then we are back to the OP's emulation inquiry, 
and perhaps into the why bother? category.

Fabian

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Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, using VirtualBos as G5 emulator

2014-08-18 Thread 'John Carmonne' via G-Group

On Aug 18, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Fabian Fang wrote:

 On Aug 18, 2014, at 11:04 AM, James E. Therrault wrote:
 
 ...or maybe the latest Intel machine that will boot on Snow Leopard running 
 Rossetta.
 
 In my message of yesterday, I already indicated that The 2012 Mac mini came 
 with OS 10.8.1 pre-installed.  It will not boot on Snow Leopard.
 


You can Carbon Copy a 10.6.8 system to the hard drive and it will run it. The 
newer machines will only boot via installer with the original or later system.


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda CA

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Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, using VirtualBos as G5 emulator

2014-08-17 Thread Cameron Kaiser
 How to run Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, 
 using VirtualBos as a PPC G5 emulator

If you mean VirtualBox, VirtualBox is an x86 virtualizer, not PowerPC. You
may be able to run 10.4.11 on VirtualBox, but it has to be the Intel version.

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Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, using VirtualBos as G5 emulator

2014-08-17 Thread Kris Tilford
On Aug 8, 2014, at 11:36 PM, Mullin9 ddavidmul...@inbox.com wrote:

 How to run Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, 
 using VirtualBos as a PPC G5 emulator

Why would anyone want to emulate a PPC G5 when the real Intel build of 10.4.11 
is available?

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL172 Mac OS X 10.4.11 Combo Update (Intel)

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Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, using VirtualBos as G5 emulator

2014-08-17 Thread Fabian Fang
On Aug 17, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:

 On Aug 8, 2014, at 11:36 PM, Mullin9 ddavidmul...@inbox.com wrote:
 
 How to run Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, 
 using VirtualBos as a PPC G5 emulator
 
 Why would anyone want to emulate a PPC G5 when the real Intel build of 
 10.4.11 is available?
 
 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL172 Mac OS X 10.4.11 Combo Update (Intel)


The 2012 Mac mini came with OS 10.8.1 pre-installed.  I do not believe that it 
will run 10.4.11 directly, which may be why the OP asked about emulation.

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