Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-29 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Jan 25, 2011, at 4:40 PM, John Carmonne wrote:

 
 On Jan 25, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
 
 
 
 On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Jeffrey  Daile Engle macgu...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 yes, the imac has a built-in mic and no, it doesn't register in sys pref's. 
 no signal gets through. Jeff
 
 
 
 If the mic works when plugged in to another device, proving it works try 
 plugging in another sound source to see if there is detectable input..
 
 Again, knowing if it is a line level input would be very informative.
 
 
 
 It works in a Windows machine.

PC's are  mic-level, not 'line-level'. Standard cheapo tape recorder and PC 
mics don't work on Macs without a preamp of some sort.

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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-29 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
 wrote:


 On Jan 25, 2011, at 4:40 PM, John Carmonne wrote:

 
  On Jan 25, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
 
 
 
  On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Jeffrey  Daile Engle 
 macgu...@gmail.com wrote:
  yes, the imac has a built-in mic and no, it doesn't register in sys
 pref's. no signal gets through. Jeff
  
 
 
  If the mic works when plugged in to another device, proving it works try
 plugging in another sound source to see if there is detectable input..
 
  Again, knowing if it is a line level input would be very informative.
 
 
 
  It works in a Windows machine.

 PC's are  mic-level, not 'line-level'. Standard cheapo tape recorder and PC
 mics don't work on Macs without a preamp of some sort.
 ___


Second response in the thread was from myself.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:18 PM

I wrote,


On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Jeffrey  Daile Engle
macgu...@gmail.comwrote:

  I bought a logitec cheap-ola microphone today with 1/8th mini to plug into
 my G5 imac... it won't work? shouldn't it?

 Is there a work around or a third party driver that'll make it work?
 (I should say that it works fine on a winblows box)
 


Is it a line level input ? You may need a preamp.






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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-28 Thread John Carmonne

On Jan 25, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

 
 
 On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Jeffrey  Daile Engle macgu...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 yes, the imac has a built-in mic and no, it doesn't register in sys pref's. 
 no signal gets through. Jeff
 
 
 
 If the mic works when plugged in to another device, proving it works try 
 plugging in another sound source to see if there is detectable input..
 
 Again, knowing if it is a line level input would be very informative.
 
 
  
It works in a Windows machine.

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda CA
92886 USA
Sent from my MBP





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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-26 Thread bittin
a bit offtopic, but thanks for the manual tips it even had manuals for iMac G3 
and older things 3



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 Subject: Re: Microphone doesn't work?
 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:14:20 -0600
 
 
On Jan 25, 2011, at 10:12 PM, Jeffrey  Daile Engle wrote:
 
  I was talking about the microphone.
 
 He was talking about the manual for the G5 iMac.
 You can download a manual from Apple and look in there:
 http://support.apple.com/manuals/
 
 
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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-26 Thread Andrew Liu Anderson

Dana Collins wrote:

Jeff, you need a preamp for this style microphone, particularly if it 
has a long cable - 


Dana is correct. It's pretty safe to ass-ume that any microphone other 
than Apple's (Plain Talk?) microphone will need a preamp. Even if it has 
a battery in it, it's probably a condenser mic, and will still need a 
preamp... VERY FEW exceptions.


Cheers,
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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Mike Linnett
In system preferences, you should be able to select Line in as the audio 
source? That should show you if any signal is getting through. 
Doesn't the iMac have a built in mic?
On 25 Jan 2011, at 23:12, Jeffrey  Daile Engle wrote:

 I bought a logitec cheap-ola microphone today with 1/8th mini to plug into my 
 G5 imac... it won't work? shouldn't it?
 
 Is there a work around or a third party driver that'll make it work?
 (I should say that it works fine on a winblows box)
 
 Jeff Engle
 Kamiah, Idaho 83536
 
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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Jeffrey  Daile Engle
macgu...@gmail.comwrote:

 I bought a logitec cheap-ola microphone today with 1/8th mini to plug into
 my G5 imac... it won't work? shouldn't it?

 Is there a work around or a third party driver that'll make it work?
 (I should say that it works fine on a winblows box)
 


Is it a line level input ? You may need a preamp.





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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Jeffrey Daile Engle
yes, the imac has a built-in mic and no, it doesn't register in sys pref's. no 
signal gets through. Jeff
On Jan 25, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Mike Linnett wrote:

 In system preferences, you should be able to select Line in as the audio 
 source? That should show you if any signal is getting through. 
 Doesn't the iMac have a built in mic?
 On 25 Jan 2011, at 23:12, Jeffrey  Daile Engle wrote:
 
 I bought a logitec cheap-ola microphone today with 1/8th mini to plug into 
 my G5 imac... it won't work? shouldn't it?
 
 Is there a work around or a third party driver that'll make it work?
 (I should say that it works fine on a winblows box)
 
 Jeff Engle
 Kamiah, Idaho 83536
 

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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Jeffrey  Daile Engle
macgu...@gmail.comwrote:

 yes, the imac has a built-in mic and no, it doesn't register in sys pref's.
 no signal gets through. Jeff
 



If the mic works when plugged in to another device, proving it works try
plugging in another sound source to see if there is detectable input..

Again, knowing if it is a line level input would be very informative.



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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Jeffrey Daile Engle

On Jan 25, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

 
 
 On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Jeffrey  Daile Engle macgu...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 yes, the imac has a built-in mic and no, it doesn't register in sys pref's. 
 no signal gets through. Jeff
 
 
 
 If the mic works when plugged in to another device, proving it works try 
 plugging in another sound source to see if there is detectable input..
 
 Again, knowing if it is a line level input would be very informative.
 
 
  I have no idea 

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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Jeffrey  Daile Engle
macgu...@gmail.comwrote:


 
   I have no idea 




Your user manual will tell you.




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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Jeffrey Daile Engle

On Jan 25, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

 Your user manual will tell you.


it didn't come with a user manual, and furthermore it doesn't even have a model 
number on it. I picked it up a goodwill.

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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Jeffrey  Daile Engle
macgu...@gmail.comwrote:


 On Jan 25, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

  Your user manual will tell you.


 it didn't come with a user manual, and furthermore it doesn't even have a
 model number on it. I picked it up a goodwill.
 ___



Wow , now I am really envious. A G5 from Goodwill? In my town a G5, if
anyone had bought one, would be used until it as dust, and considered so
valuable that it would be on eBay for months to meet the reserve !

Check the LEM profiles to figure out the model. Or look in system profiler.
The manual should be easy to find online.





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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Jeffrey Daile Engle

On Jan 25, 2011, at 8:08 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

 Wow , now I am really envious. A G5 from Goodwill? In my town a G5, if anyone 
 had bought one, would be used until it as dust, and considered so valuable 
 that it would be on eBay for months to meet the reserve !
 
 Check the LEM profiles to figure out the model. Or look in system profiler.
 The manual should be easy to find online.

I was talking about the microphone.

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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Jeffrey  Daile Engle
macgu...@gmail.comwrote:


 On Jan 25, 2011, at 8:08 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

  Wow , now I am really envious. A G5 from Goodwill? In my town a G5, if
 anyone had bought one, would be used until it as dust, and considered so
 valuable that it would be on eBay for months to meet the reserve !
 
  Check the LEM profiles to figure out the model. Or look in system
 profiler.
  The manual should be easy to find online.

 I was talking about the microphone.
 __


Then I would definitely try the mic in another device to make sure it works.




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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Dana Collins
On 1/25/11 11:12 PM, Jeffrey  Daile Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 On Jan 25, 2011, at 8:08 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
 
 Wow , now I am really envious. A G5 from Goodwill? In my town a G5, if anyone
 had bought one, would be used until it as dust, and considered so valuable
 that it would be on eBay for months to meet the reserve !
 
 Check the LEM profiles to figure out the model. Or look in system profiler.
 The manual should be easy to find online.
 
 I was talking about the microphone.

LOL! I knew that was coming ;-) Jeff, you need a preamp for this style
microphone, particularly if it has a long cable - an online preamp (which
really acts as much as a signal isolator), 1-1 I/O, is all you need
(although a quick scan on eBay offerings did not yield such simple
solutions; more elegant offerings are available, costing - I am sure- at
least 20x more than what you paid for the mike).
This was a common frustration with Finale's MakeMusic application (their
Music Minus One accompanying software) where their microphones (which, by
necessity, had long 8' cables on them) did not work with Macs until they
started including preamps with the models (the new MakeMusic mikes are USB).
PCs were fine without the preamp. Why the difference I was never told,
though easy to speculate, electronically.

Best way to find one is to ask a friend whose Mac-centric child used to
use MakeMusic for practice purposes still had their mike.
Best regards,
Dana


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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Kris Tilford

On Jan 25, 2011, at 10:12 PM, Jeffrey  Daile Engle wrote:


I was talking about the microphone.


He was talking about the manual for the G5 iMac.
You can download a manual from Apple and look in there:
http://support.apple.com/manuals/


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SOLVED Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Jeffrey Daile Engle

Yes, a preamp or I believe a simple USB to analog adapter might do the trick. I 
may just find one of those at goodwill the next time I visit. In any case, I'll 
take it from here. Thanks for all the input.
Jeff

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