Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger

2009-12-16 Thread Bill Connelly
On Dec 16, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Brother Eye wrote: Everyone, I am happy to report that my PowerMac G4 is now running smoothly at 10.4. I think the influx of suggestions helped me get out of my tunnel vision view of the problem. I ran the CMD+V command as suggested and found both a warning

Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger

2009-12-16 Thread Brother Eye
After all we've been through, anyone want to hazard a guess as to why I can't upgrade to 10.4.1? It states my volume does not me the necessary requirements, it has plenty of available space??? Sheeesh! On Dec 16, 11:33 am, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Dec 16, 2009, at 11:18

Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger

2009-12-16 Thread Kris Tilford
On Dec 16, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Brother Eye wrote: After all we've been through, anyone want to hazard a guess as to why I can't upgrade to 10.4.1? It states my volume does not me the necessary requirements, it has plenty of available space??? Sheeesh! Here's a bunch of guesses: 1) did you

Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger

2009-12-15 Thread Kris Tilford
On Dec 15, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Tyrus Manuel wrote: I can give more specs if needed, but I wanted to get a sense of whether anyone had this problem first. When you're getting a kernel panic it's nice to know what the panic text says. Since this is repeatable, use Cmd-v keyboard keys at

Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger

2009-12-15 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 15, 2009, at 9:48 AM, Tyrus Manuel wrote: I have the above Mac (Power MacG4-AGP) and I have been able to reach 10.3.9 upgrade with only occasional prohibitory signs on startup, but every installation of Tiger I have tried gives me the prohibitory on each boot. That's very

Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger

2009-12-15 Thread Brother Eye
Specs below as requested, I will also try the cmd+v and see if that gives me anything generally all it does is make the computer unbootable unless I do a fresh install of 10.3: Hardware: Hardware Overview: Machine Model:Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics) CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.9)

Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger

2009-12-15 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 15, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Brother Eye wrote: Specs below as requested, I will also try the cmd+v and see if that gives me anything generally all it does is make the computer unbootable unless I do a fresh install of 10.3: Check your memory. 10.4 is pickier than 10.3. Download and install

Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger

2009-12-15 Thread Kris Tilford
On Dec 15, 2009, at 12:58 PM, Brother Eye wrote: I will also try the cmd+v and see if that gives me anything generally all it does is make the computer unbootable unless I do a fresh install of 10.3: There is no way that Cmd-v should make your computer unbootable. It sounds like you have some

Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger

2009-12-15 Thread John Niven
--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: system to 10.4; it turned out to be the flaky external dvd drive I was  using to install it. Doesn't the install disk do a media check first? I know you can bypass that but I always thought that was a good idea. then you

Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger

2009-12-15 Thread Clark Martin
Brother Eye wrote: Specs below as requested, I will also try the cmd+v and see if that gives me anything generally all it does is make the computer unbootable unless I do a fresh install of 10.3: PCI/AGP Cards: ADPT,1686806-04: Name: ADPT,2930CU Type: scsi Bus:

Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger

2009-12-15 Thread Jorjo :)
I had EXACTLY the same problem in my BW, I also thought it was the SCSI card, but when I removed it, the same problem, I was stuck with 10.3, when I attempted to install Tiger, i only got Kernel Panics in the Installer (when it was something like 30% ), finally I removed the last RAM stick I

Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger

2009-12-15 Thread dc
PCI/AGP Cards: ADPT,1686806-04:   Name: ADPT,2930CU   Type: scsi   Bus:  PCI   Slot: SLOT-D   Vendor ID:    0x9004   Device ID:    0x5078   Subsystem Vendor ID:  0x9004   Subsystem ID: 0x7850   Revision ID:  0x0003 There are a couple of large threads on the Apple Discussion Boards

Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger

2009-12-15 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 15, 2009, at 12:48 PM, John Niven wrote: --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: system to 10.4; it turned out to be the flaky external dvd drive I was using to install it. Doesn't the install disk do a media check first? I know you can bypass

Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger

2009-12-15 Thread John Carmonne
On Dec 15, 2009, at 12:59 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 15, 2009, at 12:48 PM, John Niven wrote: --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: system to 10.4; it turned out to be the flaky external dvd drive I was using to install it. Doesn't the

Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger

2009-12-15 Thread Brother Eye
Not the CMD-V, but whenever I try to boot in 10.4 I generally have to reinstall 10.3, whatever happens seems to corrupt both installations? I am learning about troubleshooting Macs, so I am not 100% sure but this seems to be the behavior. I will try again and report any findings. Thanks. On Dec

Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger

2009-12-15 Thread Brother Eye
Everyone, Thank you so much for your advice and suggestions. I will start working through all of them and update this thread as applicable. I have recently replaced the old DVD drive and I thought that might help but not yet. I will focus on the SCSI and the RAM since those are things I haven't

RE: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger

2009-12-15 Thread Stewie de Young
John Carmonnes approach is exactly what I do to troubleshoot any Mac. Remove all variables down to a bare bones system. Disconnect any PCI cards , hard drives except one for the boot drive, all ram sticks except for one and any other USB hub etc. Use an Apple keyboard and boot from the hard