Re: Rotten smell raises Apple toxin fears

2008-10-04 Thread Arnel Tuazon

On 03/10/08 7:20 AM, Simon Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Hi
 
 I have had a number of iMac G3s and these smell terrible of burning. I changed
 the plastics on one recently and whilst testing it afterward smelt so bad of
 burning plastic I thought I had done something wrong.
 
 But my sons iMac G3 smells just as bad.
 

On the other hand my BW, after all these years, has never given off any
odour.  My PM G5 tower and my wife's Macbook Pro emit no scent at all. 



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Re: Rotten smell raises Apple toxin fears

2008-10-03 Thread Simon Royal

Hi

I have had a number of iMac G3s and these smell terrible of burning. I changed 
the plastics on one recently and whilst testing it afterward smelt so bad of 
burning plastic I thought I had done something wrong.

But my sons iMac G3 smells just as bad.

Simon

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Subject: Re: Rotten smell raises Apple toxin fears
From: Arnel Tuazon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 03/10/2008 11:19


Actually come to think of it (or smell of it) my wife's old G3 iBook started
to smell like B.O. after it was serviced for a new hard drive.  That was
about 2 years ago and it still stinks when you boot it up.  I'm thinking
it's the hard drive because the logic board was replaced twice from two
different service centers and the stink is still there.  Kinda like the
episode of Seinfeld when Jerry's car started to smell bad after the valet
drove it.







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Re: Rotten smell raises Apple toxin fears

2008-10-02 Thread Dan

At 10:04 PM -0400 10/1/2008, Steve R wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/protoxic 

ROTTEN SMELL RAISES APPLE TOXIN FEARS

yum.  benzene!

This adds a whole new level to the 'ole phrase pry it from my cold 
dead hands.

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Re: Rotten smell raises Apple toxin fears

2008-10-02 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Oct 2, 2008, at 8:13 AM, Dan wrote:


 At 10:04 PM -0400 10/1/2008, Steve R wrote:
 http://tinyurl.com/protoxic 

 ROTTEN SMELL RAISES APPLE TOXIN FEARS

 yum.  benzene!

 This adds a whole new level to the 'ole phrase pry it from my cold
 dead hands.

Note: a single anonymous person who submitted his MacBook for testing,  
and no test results in the original article, although you HAVE to love  
the Googlefishing of the first sentence:

Some models of Apple computers emit toxic fumes and the giant apple  
does pipe word. 

I'd wait until we had a larger sample size before declaring all our  
macs a Superfund site...mail 'em to me...I'll take care of  
remediation! :-

I'm an ex lab rat, and I know very well what benzene smells like, and  
that 'new mac smell' isn't benzene, and none of the folks with new  
Macbooks or MacBook pros have mentioned any smell.

In fact electronics manufacturers have largely moved beyond solvent- 
based cleaning to water-based cleaning methods during manufacture,  
because it eliminated the use of toxic chemicals like TCE, benzene and  
carbon tetrachloride.

I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm saying wait for more evidence. It  
could be  a bad batch of Macs, like the yellowing case plastics on  
some early MacBooks.

What I'm more worried about are the reports of sweaty stinky MacBooks.  
I can't wait until the one my Mom bought (on my recommendation :-)  
starts smelling like old gym socks.

Sorry mom, it's not me...it's the computer...

OT: Could be worse. I had a friend who worked as a research chemist  
for General Foods way back in the day. He was working on flavorants  
for dog foods, and came up with a compound everyone called Sweaty  
Chicken.

I worked there briefly, years after he had left, and mentioned his  
name. No one remembered him. Then I mentioned 'Sweaty Chicken' OH!!!  
Sweaty Chicken Guy! That lab smelled like that for years!

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

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Re: Rotten smell raises Apple toxin fears

2008-10-02 Thread Steve R

My G5/1.8mHz stinks. I bought it used. The first thing I noticed when 
I turned it on was the smell. I blamed it on that electronic smell. 
If I leave it running overnight, my neighbour who comes over for 
coffee every morning will ask me what smells. When I leave it turned 
off overnight, he asks me if I found what the stink was.  The other 
night my neighbour who is primarily a Windows guy turned on his iMac 
he bought new, and hasn't really had on for more than an hour or so 
at a time in the year he bought it. This time he had it on for +24 
hours and called me to come up to help him find the weird smell 
coming from his Mac desk set up. Did I think it was the iMac, the 
external drive... he didn't know and wanted a fresh nose. shrug 
Finding the article two days later, and posting it here might have 
other Mac users being conscious of any weird smells they haven't been 
able to track down, and running their own un-scientific testing. Or 
not. Gawdferbid we should accept anecdotal findings as being anything 
that makes Apple less god-like ;-)

Steve R
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Re: Rotten smell raises Apple toxin fears

2008-10-02 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Oct 2, 2008, at 11:20 AM, Steve R wrote:

  Gawdferbid we should accept anecdotal findings as being anything
 that makes Apple less god-like ;-)



The plural of anecdote is not data.

I have no doubt that some electronic devices smell really bad when  
they're first turned on and warm up; I've had a few myself.

My issue is with the 'OMYGODOHONESI'MGOINGTODIEEE11!!'  
sensationalism of the reporting.

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Re: Rotten smell raises Apple toxin fears

2008-10-02 Thread Dan

At 2:55 PM -0400 10/2/2008, insightinmind wrote:
Different kind of heating up ... that smells, too ... IMHO.

You put oatmeal where?

- Dan.
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