[Gaim-bugs] [ gaim-Bugs-1596830 ] Yahoo avatar is not shown to other user
Bugs item #1596830, was opened at 2006-11-15 10:08 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by leathergloves You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100235&aid=1596830&group_id=235 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: 2.0.0 beta 5 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: NEO256 (lord_neo256) Assigned to: Sean Egan (seanegan) Summary: Yahoo avatar is not shown to other user Initial Comment: It doesn't matter if I set a general avatar or a yahoo specific avatar the avatar is not shown to the party at the other side of Yahoo. -- Comment By: leathergloves (leathergloves) Date: 2007-02-26 21:23 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1623108 Originator: NO advantis, I followed your suggestions and prepared myself an avatar scaled at 96x96 (24 true color) PNG. It worked; yahoo messenger people could see it. Now, (after a week) I just changed the image with another (same settings). I asked some people in my list, but they said it didn't update. I restarted gaim and.. nothing. They're seeing the previous avatar. -- Comment By: Uplink (advantis) Date: 2007-02-24 23:09 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=936879 Originator: NO It seems I got lucky. The behavior I doesn't always work. I don't know what made it work the first time. On the same computer, it didn't work on the next day. -- Comment By: Uplink (advantis) Date: 2007-02-17 01:57 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=936879 Originator: NO After seeing the duplicate bugs and their comments, I took a look in GAIM's icon cache to see what format are the pictures coming from users of Yahoo Messenger, Trillian and possibly others. I found out that GAIM allows any image size while all the others are 96x96 pixels. To be more specific, I found these three formats (according to "file") to form 99% of the icon cache (all of the on the Yahoo! network, the other 1% are from GAIM (non 96x96 PNGs), an one picture being a JPEG from Google Talk and a 5-6 are HTTP sessions/errors from Yahoo when GAIM tried retrieving avatars): PNG image data, 96 x 96, 8-bit colormap, non-interlaced PNG image data, 96 x 96, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced PNG image data, 96 x 96, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced I didn't run any thorough tests, but I took one "96 x 96, 8-bit colormap" from the cache and set it as my avatar. And it is displayed OK in the Windows Yahoo Messenger client. My guess is that GAIM 1.5 used to enforce these limits on the Yahoo! network and stopped doing it somewhere on the way to 2.0. Base on this guess, the fix would look like this: 1. large images: a. shrink image so one of the smallest dimension is 96. Crop the other dimension to 96, keeping the image center. b. shrink image so the largest dimension is 96. Center the image on the smallest dimension. Fill remaining space with white so the result is 96x96. 2. small images: a. same as 1a, but stretch instead of shrink b. same as 1b, but stretch instead of shrink Now, I don't know which of a and b is better to use. I'm not sure how YM does it, but so far it looks like point a. Why point a? Because it's easier to crop than to center+fill. -- Comment By: Megan Schneider (ciran) Date: 2007-02-16 22:48 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=801517 Originator: NO Has duplicate 1592318 -- Comment By: Megan Schneider (ciran) Date: 2007-02-16 21:23 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=801517 Originator: NO Has duplicate 1621161 -- Comment By: leathergloves (leathergloves) Date: 2007-01-31 16:30 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1623108 Originator: NO It's beta6 now, and the Yahoo! Messenger users still can't see my avatar. -- Comment By: Uplink (advantis) Date: 2007-01-04 13:39 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=936879 Originator: NO The local-set avatar is visible on other GAIM 2.0.0beta5, 2.0.0beta3.1 clients when I'm using 2.0.0beta5. On GAIM 1.5.1 the Yahoo-set avatar is visible when I'm using 2.0.0beta5. On YM neither one is visible, but a white square is displayed instead when I'm using GAIM 2.0.0beta5. Any ideas why this is happening? -- Comment By: leathergloves (leathergloves) Date: 2006-12-30 12:44 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1623108 Originator: NO In windows it doesn't work. If you change your avatar in beta5, in Yahoo! Messenger you
[Gaim-bugs] [ gaim-Bugs-1596830 ] Yahoo avatar is not shown to other user
Bugs item #1596830, was opened at 2006-11-15 10:08 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by advantis You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100235&aid=1596830&group_id=235 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: 2.0.0 beta 5 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: NEO256 (lord_neo256) Assigned to: Sean Egan (seanegan) Summary: Yahoo avatar is not shown to other user Initial Comment: It doesn't matter if I set a general avatar or a yahoo specific avatar the avatar is not shown to the party at the other side of Yahoo. -- Comment By: Uplink (advantis) Date: 2007-02-24 23:09 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=936879 Originator: NO It seems I got lucky. The behavior I doesn't always work. I don't know what made it work the first time. On the same computer, it didn't work on the next day. -- Comment By: Uplink (advantis) Date: 2007-02-17 01:57 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=936879 Originator: NO After seeing the duplicate bugs and their comments, I took a look in GAIM's icon cache to see what format are the pictures coming from users of Yahoo Messenger, Trillian and possibly others. I found out that GAIM allows any image size while all the others are 96x96 pixels. To be more specific, I found these three formats (according to "file") to form 99% of the icon cache (all of the on the Yahoo! network, the other 1% are from GAIM (non 96x96 PNGs), an one picture being a JPEG from Google Talk and a 5-6 are HTTP sessions/errors from Yahoo when GAIM tried retrieving avatars): PNG image data, 96 x 96, 8-bit colormap, non-interlaced PNG image data, 96 x 96, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced PNG image data, 96 x 96, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced I didn't run any thorough tests, but I took one "96 x 96, 8-bit colormap" from the cache and set it as my avatar. And it is displayed OK in the Windows Yahoo Messenger client. My guess is that GAIM 1.5 used to enforce these limits on the Yahoo! network and stopped doing it somewhere on the way to 2.0. Base on this guess, the fix would look like this: 1. large images: a. shrink image so one of the smallest dimension is 96. Crop the other dimension to 96, keeping the image center. b. shrink image so the largest dimension is 96. Center the image on the smallest dimension. Fill remaining space with white so the result is 96x96. 2. small images: a. same as 1a, but stretch instead of shrink b. same as 1b, but stretch instead of shrink Now, I don't know which of a and b is better to use. I'm not sure how YM does it, but so far it looks like point a. Why point a? Because it's easier to crop than to center+fill. -- Comment By: Megan Schneider (ciran) Date: 2007-02-16 22:48 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=801517 Originator: NO Has duplicate 1592318 -- Comment By: Megan Schneider (ciran) Date: 2007-02-16 21:23 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=801517 Originator: NO Has duplicate 1621161 -- Comment By: leathergloves (leathergloves) Date: 2007-01-31 16:30 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1623108 Originator: NO It's beta6 now, and the Yahoo! Messenger users still can't see my avatar. -- Comment By: Uplink (advantis) Date: 2007-01-04 13:39 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=936879 Originator: NO The local-set avatar is visible on other GAIM 2.0.0beta5, 2.0.0beta3.1 clients when I'm using 2.0.0beta5. On GAIM 1.5.1 the Yahoo-set avatar is visible when I'm using 2.0.0beta5. On YM neither one is visible, but a white square is displayed instead when I'm using GAIM 2.0.0beta5. Any ideas why this is happening? -- Comment By: leathergloves (leathergloves) Date: 2006-12-30 12:44 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1623108 Originator: NO In windows it doesn't work. If you change your avatar in beta5, in Yahoo! Messenger you either get a black square or nothing. -- Comment By: Johnny Levai (nrg88) Date: 2006-12-28 23:12 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1670548 Originator: NO Hm, tested it in Kopete, and avatar changing worked :( Looks like the bug is in Gaim beta 5 -- Comment By: leathergloves (leathergloves) Date: 2006-12-20 01:31 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1623108 Originator: NO Yes I can confirm that. Since the beta versions
[Gaim-bugs] [ gaim-Bugs-1596830 ] Yahoo avatar is not shown to other user
Bugs item #1596830, was opened at 2006-11-15 10:08 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by advantis You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100235&aid=1596830&group_id=235 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: 2.0.0 beta 5 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: NEO256 (lord_neo256) Assigned to: Sean Egan (seanegan) Summary: Yahoo avatar is not shown to other user Initial Comment: It doesn't matter if I set a general avatar or a yahoo specific avatar the avatar is not shown to the party at the other side of Yahoo. -- Comment By: Uplink (advantis) Date: 2007-02-17 01:57 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=936879 Originator: NO After seeing the duplicate bugs and their comments, I took a look in GAIM's icon cache to see what format are the pictures coming from users of Yahoo Messenger, Trillian and possibly others. I found out that GAIM allows any image size while all the others are 96x96 pixels. To be more specific, I found these three formats (according to "file") to form 99% of the icon cache (all of the on the Yahoo! network, the other 1% are from GAIM (non 96x96 PNGs), an one picture being a JPEG from Google Talk and a 5-6 are HTTP sessions/errors from Yahoo when GAIM tried retrieving avatars): PNG image data, 96 x 96, 8-bit colormap, non-interlaced PNG image data, 96 x 96, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced PNG image data, 96 x 96, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced I didn't run any thorough tests, but I took one "96 x 96, 8-bit colormap" from the cache and set it as my avatar. And it is displayed OK in the Windows Yahoo Messenger client. My guess is that GAIM 1.5 used to enforce these limits on the Yahoo! network and stopped doing it somewhere on the way to 2.0. Base on this guess, the fix would look like this: 1. large images: a. shrink image so one of the smallest dimension is 96. Crop the other dimension to 96, keeping the image center. b. shrink image so the largest dimension is 96. Center the image on the smallest dimension. Fill remaining space with white so the result is 96x96. 2. small images: a. same as 1a, but stretch instead of shrink b. same as 1b, but stretch instead of shrink Now, I don't know which of a and b is better to use. I'm not sure how YM does it, but so far it looks like point a. Why point a? Because it's easier to crop than to center+fill. -- Comment By: Megan Schneider (ciran) Date: 2007-02-16 22:48 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=801517 Originator: NO Has duplicate 1592318 -- Comment By: Megan Schneider (ciran) Date: 2007-02-16 21:23 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=801517 Originator: NO Has duplicate 1621161 -- Comment By: leathergloves (leathergloves) Date: 2007-01-31 16:30 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1623108 Originator: NO It's beta6 now, and the Yahoo! Messenger users still can't see my avatar. -- Comment By: Uplink (advantis) Date: 2007-01-04 13:39 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=936879 Originator: NO The local-set avatar is visible on other GAIM 2.0.0beta5, 2.0.0beta3.1 clients when I'm using 2.0.0beta5. On GAIM 1.5.1 the Yahoo-set avatar is visible when I'm using 2.0.0beta5. On YM neither one is visible, but a white square is displayed instead when I'm using GAIM 2.0.0beta5. Any ideas why this is happening? -- Comment By: leathergloves (leathergloves) Date: 2006-12-30 12:44 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1623108 Originator: NO In windows it doesn't work. If you change your avatar in beta5, in Yahoo! Messenger you either get a black square or nothing. -- Comment By: Johnny Levai (nrg88) Date: 2006-12-28 23:12 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1670548 Originator: NO Hm, tested it in Kopete, and avatar changing worked :( Looks like the bug is in Gaim beta 5 -- Comment By: leathergloves (leathergloves) Date: 2006-12-20 01:31 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1623108 Originator: NO Yes I can confirm that. Since the beta versions following 1.5.0 it doesn't work. It's a gaim bug. In win32 with normal yahoo, yahoo 1.5.0 and 2.0beta5 running in parallel you can change your avatar only in 1.5.0! (and obviously normal yahoo) -- Comment By: Johnny Levai (nrg88) Date: 2006-12-18 00:19 Message: Logged
[Gaim-bugs] [ gaim-Bugs-1596830 ] Yahoo avatar is not shown to other user
Bugs item #1596830, was opened at 2006-11-15 02:08 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by ciran You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100235&aid=1596830&group_id=235 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: 2.0.0 beta 5 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: NEO256 (lord_neo256) Assigned to: Sean Egan (seanegan) Summary: Yahoo avatar is not shown to other user Initial Comment: It doesn't matter if I set a general avatar or a yahoo specific avatar the avatar is not shown to the party at the other side of Yahoo. -- >Comment By: Megan Schneider (ciran) Date: 2007-02-16 14:48 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=801517 Originator: NO Has duplicate 1592318 -- Comment By: Megan Schneider (ciran) Date: 2007-02-16 13:23 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=801517 Originator: NO Has duplicate 1621161 -- Comment By: leathergloves (leathergloves) Date: 2007-01-31 08:30 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1623108 Originator: NO It's beta6 now, and the Yahoo! Messenger users still can't see my avatar. -- Comment By: Uplink (advantis) Date: 2007-01-04 05:39 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=936879 Originator: NO The local-set avatar is visible on other GAIM 2.0.0beta5, 2.0.0beta3.1 clients when I'm using 2.0.0beta5. On GAIM 1.5.1 the Yahoo-set avatar is visible when I'm using 2.0.0beta5. On YM neither one is visible, but a white square is displayed instead when I'm using GAIM 2.0.0beta5. Any ideas why this is happening? -- Comment By: leathergloves (leathergloves) Date: 2006-12-30 04:44 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1623108 Originator: NO In windows it doesn't work. If you change your avatar in beta5, in Yahoo! Messenger you either get a black square or nothing. -- Comment By: Johnny Levai (nrg88) Date: 2006-12-28 15:12 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1670548 Originator: NO Hm, tested it in Kopete, and avatar changing worked :( Looks like the bug is in Gaim beta 5 -- Comment By: leathergloves (leathergloves) Date: 2006-12-19 17:31 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1623108 Originator: NO Yes I can confirm that. Since the beta versions following 1.5.0 it doesn't work. It's a gaim bug. In win32 with normal yahoo, yahoo 1.5.0 and 2.0beta5 running in parallel you can change your avatar only in 1.5.0! (and obviously normal yahoo) -- Comment By: Johnny Levai (nrg88) Date: 2006-12-17 16:19 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1670548 Originator: NO Hm, it just fixed itself, this must have been an error in the yahoo service, I don't think it's a bug in gaim. I deleted my old account, restarted gaim, and it didn't help, but it was working with my new yahoo account. Then after midnight the avatar worked for my old account. You know, yahoo is a buggy pile of s**t -- Comment By: Johnny Levai (nrg88) Date: 2006-12-17 13:38 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1670548 Originator: NO I can confirm this, it was working with my account, but then it stopped setting up an avatar. I tried with another account, and it works with it, but it doesn't with my old account. -- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100235&aid=1596830&group_id=235 - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Gaim-bugs mailing list Gaim-bugs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-bugs
[Gaim-bugs] [ gaim-Bugs-1596830 ] Yahoo avatar is not shown to other user
Bugs item #1596830, was opened at 2006-11-15 02:08 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by ciran You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100235&aid=1596830&group_id=235 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: 2.0.0 beta 5 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: NEO256 (lord_neo256) Assigned to: Sean Egan (seanegan) Summary: Yahoo avatar is not shown to other user Initial Comment: It doesn't matter if I set a general avatar or a yahoo specific avatar the avatar is not shown to the party at the other side of Yahoo. -- >Comment By: Megan Schneider (ciran) Date: 2007-02-16 13:23 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=801517 Originator: NO Has duplicate 1621161 -- Comment By: leathergloves (leathergloves) Date: 2007-01-31 08:30 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1623108 Originator: NO It's beta6 now, and the Yahoo! Messenger users still can't see my avatar. -- Comment By: Uplink (advantis) Date: 2007-01-04 05:39 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=936879 Originator: NO The local-set avatar is visible on other GAIM 2.0.0beta5, 2.0.0beta3.1 clients when I'm using 2.0.0beta5. On GAIM 1.5.1 the Yahoo-set avatar is visible when I'm using 2.0.0beta5. On YM neither one is visible, but a white square is displayed instead when I'm using GAIM 2.0.0beta5. Any ideas why this is happening? -- Comment By: leathergloves (leathergloves) Date: 2006-12-30 04:44 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1623108 Originator: NO In windows it doesn't work. If you change your avatar in beta5, in Yahoo! Messenger you either get a black square or nothing. -- Comment By: Johnny Levai (nrg88) Date: 2006-12-28 15:12 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1670548 Originator: NO Hm, tested it in Kopete, and avatar changing worked :( Looks like the bug is in Gaim beta 5 -- Comment By: leathergloves (leathergloves) Date: 2006-12-19 17:31 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1623108 Originator: NO Yes I can confirm that. Since the beta versions following 1.5.0 it doesn't work. It's a gaim bug. In win32 with normal yahoo, yahoo 1.5.0 and 2.0beta5 running in parallel you can change your avatar only in 1.5.0! (and obviously normal yahoo) -- Comment By: Johnny Levai (nrg88) Date: 2006-12-17 16:19 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1670548 Originator: NO Hm, it just fixed itself, this must have been an error in the yahoo service, I don't think it's a bug in gaim. I deleted my old account, restarted gaim, and it didn't help, but it was working with my new yahoo account. Then after midnight the avatar worked for my old account. You know, yahoo is a buggy pile of s**t -- Comment By: Johnny Levai (nrg88) Date: 2006-12-17 13:38 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1670548 Originator: NO I can confirm this, it was working with my account, but then it stopped setting up an avatar. I tried with another account, and it works with it, but it doesn't with my old account. -- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100235&aid=1596830&group_id=235 - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Gaim-bugs mailing list Gaim-bugs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-bugs
